Bruce wrote in
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The bloke was pointing out that most "Jews" are not genetically of
Semitic decent. Most of them are Slavic, or Germanic.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

"at their peak in 1931, Ashkenazi Jews accounted for 92 percent of the
world's Jews. Today they make up approximately 80 percent of Jews
worldwide."


It's very hard to be antisemitic to people who've never been Semitic in
the first place.....

I suppose I could be antiAshkenazi, though, to be more correct, but not
politically correct.

Too bad Palestinians can't make an issue out of this and run the
*******s out of their country.

Ashkenazis are also the people who brought you the Soviet Union and the
KGB.

See also Khazaria.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Fascinating reading. Kinda blows away a lot of "myth"....




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Larry

Molesworth wrote in news:molesworth80-
:

I was walking the dog when I saw an (old) U-Haul truck with Stars of
David on the rear, made of insulating tape. I thought 'Jew-Haul'

Well, I thought it amusing as I walked away..



That wasn't headed for the World Trade Center, was it?....(c;]


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Larry

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Harry wrote:
On 2/27/10 12:03 PM, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:zP-dncsy_
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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote in
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It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe


Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


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Larry

Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.

Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?
A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about
Baptists
is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive about
any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same
grief, maybe more.

Stephen

There's no such race as "Jew" or "Jewish," despite the best efforts of
some to make it seem so.
There is no such thing as "race" period. But there is such a thing as
contemptible prejudice based upon genetics. We call that "racism."
Larry's psychological deficiency falls into that category.

Stephen



If I had had close friends on the USS LIberty, I would probably feel as
Larry does, particularly as Israel has gone unpunished for that
particular crime.

I didn't and I don't but I can understand those that do.

Really? So, say if you had a friend killed by a group of Africans you'd
start believing Africans were inferior to everyone else?

Stephen


There's a difference between individual acts of violence and that generated
by the state.

However, my opinion of most Africans is already low, given the high success
rate they have in running ********s of countries.
(BTW, I am not a racist, I am a bigot - I am most particular in what I am
prejudiced about.)

I

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Molesworth wrote in news:molesworth80-
:

I was walking the dog when I saw an (old) U-Haul truck with Stars of
David on the rear, made of insulating tape. I thought 'Jew-Haul'

Well, I thought it amusing as I walked away..



That wasn't headed for the World Trade Center, was it?....(c;]


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Larry



You're really sick.

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Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Harry wrote:
On 2/27/10 12:03 PM, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:zP-dncsy_
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote in
news:79711f1e-f9e8-4e35-bd25-
:

It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe


Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.

Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?
A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about
Baptists
is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive about
any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same
grief, maybe more.

Stephen
There's no such race as "Jew" or "Jewish," despite the best efforts of
some to make it seem so.
There is no such thing as "race" period. But there is such a thing as
contemptible prejudice based upon genetics. We call that "racism."
Larry's psychological deficiency falls into that category.

Stephen


If I had had close friends on the USS LIberty, I would probably feel as
Larry does, particularly as Israel has gone unpunished for that
particular crime.

I didn't and I don't but I can understand those that do.
Really? So, say if you had a friend killed by a group of Africans you'd
start believing Africans were inferior to everyone else?

Stephen


There's a difference between individual acts of violence and that generated
by the state.

However, my opinion of most Africans is already low, given the high success
rate they have in running ********s of countries.
(BTW, I am not a racist, I am a bigot - I am most particular in what I am
prejudiced about.)

Hm, no wonder you're sympathetic. Lets try again with another group. Say
a North Korean ship accidentally killed some friends of yours. Would you
then think all Asians are inferior and deserve to be killed? If they did
it on purpose would you *then* think all Asians are inferior and deserve
to be killed?

Stephen

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 2/27/10 12:03 PM, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:zP-dncsy_
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote in
news:79711f1e-f9e8-4e35-bd25-
:

It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe


Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.

Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?
A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about
Baptists
is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive
about
any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same
grief, maybe more.

Stephen
There's no such race as "Jew" or "Jewish," despite the best efforts
of some to make it seem so.
There is no such thing as "race" period. But there is such a thing as
contemptible prejudice based upon genetics. We call that "racism."
Larry's psychological deficiency falls into that category.

Stephen


If I had had close friends on the USS LIberty, I would probably feel as
Larry does, particularly as Israel has gone unpunished for that
particular crime.

I didn't and I don't but I can understand those that do.
Really? So, say if you had a friend killed by a group of Africans you'd
start believing Africans were inferior to everyone else?

Stephen


There's a difference between individual acts of violence and that
generated by the state.

However, my opinion of most Africans is already low, given the high
success rate they have in running ********s of countries.
(BTW, I am not a racist, I am a bigot - I am most particular in what I am
prejudiced about.)

Hm, no wonder you're sympathetic. Lets try again with another group. Say a
North Korean ship accidentally killed some friends of yours. Would you
then think all Asians are inferior and deserve to be killed? If they did
it on purpose would you *then* think all Asians are inferior and deserve
to be killed?

Stephen

No, you're missing the distinction between racism and bigotry.
I am selective in my prejudices, not racially biased.

To illustrate the point:-
Genetically there is no difference between Palestinians and Jews. (the ones
from Israel) They are both Semitic. However, I generally dislike the
Palestinians and generally like the Jews. That demonstrates prejudice - I
prejudge based on my experiences.

With respect to Asians, I generally get on well with Chinese, although I am
not all that well disposed to those from Peking and prefer the company of
southerners - again, this is experience as I find the ones from the north
far quicker to espouse Chinese political aims and the ones from the south
more inclined to eat good food and drink heaps. I like the company of
Cantonese, but not party-liners from the capital.

This distinction also applies on Oz, as I generally am not all that well
disposed to people from Canberra (the capital) as they are far more liberal
elitist than the rest of Australia. I am led to believe that you people
have this problem with Washington DC apparatchicks also.

With respect to Africans, I would not countenance giving someone from the
Congo anything other than suspicion, whereas I'd be happy to relax in the
company of someone from Tanganyika. Unfortunately, in that blighted tribal
basket-case, there are very few tribes to like.

It has nothing to do with race and is all about track records, which is what
most people base their prejudices on. Most just don't recognise it or admit
it.

I have a different Jewish experience to Larry's, and I have many Jewish
associates and friends but as I said, I understand why he is of the opinion
he is.

I hope this makes it clearer.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:53:51 -0800, "Capt. JG"
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Joe wrote in
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It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe



Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


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Larry



Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.


Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry



Larry, you can make jokes about anyone you want. The problem is that
your
history of racially motivated attacks is pretty clear, so your claim
about
making jokes about other groups is a load of crap. Do what you want.
I'm
not
your mother, but I certainly am not going to just let it slide without
saying anything.


And this is the News Group that has nurtured Wilbur for all these
years.


Albert


Albert, I don't think nurtured is the right word, but I see your point.
I've spoken out about this sort of behavior previously.

And rather proves the validity of my previous statement. I don't see
Larry saying those things about the Jews.... shoot, he doesn't even
say those kind of things about Wilbur-Gregory-whatever.


Albert


I can't imagine anyone here condoning Neal's behavior, and his continued
harassment of me _is_ a prime example. It's an individual attack and has
nothing to do with the subject of racism, at least nothing I can determine.

If you look at some of the stuff Larry's posted, you'll find he's said some
pretty vile things about Jews. But, believe what you want. I'm not going to
repeat them.

He popped up with his racist crap, and I called him on it. You seem to have
a problem with the latter, so whatever floats your boat.


Nope, you got it wrong. I wasn't saying that Larry shouldn't be
condemned, rather that if one individual is to be condemned for
something then equally everyone should be condemned if they, in this
case, bad mouth someone then condemn them, but don't let another
individual get away with the same sort of actions.

I remember Wilbur insulting Peggy until she vanished from the scene
however I don't remember legions leaping out of the woodwork to
condemn Wilbur.

If you select one individual for using a word that you don't care for
and fail to condemn every other who does essentially the same thing,
then that rather smacks of prejudice doesn't it?


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:11:22 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Hoges in WA wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
On 2/27/10 12:03 PM, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:zP-dncsy_
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote in
news:79711f1e-f9e8-4e35-bd25-
:

It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe


Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.

Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?
A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about
Baptists
is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive about
any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same
grief, maybe more.

Stephen
There's no such race as "Jew" or "Jewish," despite the best efforts of
some to make it seem so.
There is no such thing as "race" period. But there is such a thing as
contemptible prejudice based upon genetics. We call that "racism."
Larry's psychological deficiency falls into that category.

Stephen


If I had had close friends on the USS LIberty, I would probably feel as
Larry does, particularly as Israel has gone unpunished for that
particular crime.

I didn't and I don't but I can understand those that do.
Really? So, say if you had a friend killed by a group of Africans you'd
start believing Africans were inferior to everyone else?

Stephen


There's a difference between individual acts of violence and that generated
by the state.

However, my opinion of most Africans is already low, given the high success
rate they have in running ********s of countries.
(BTW, I am not a racist, I am a bigot - I am most particular in what I am
prejudiced about.)

Hm, no wonder you're sympathetic. Lets try again with another group. Say
a North Korean ship accidentally killed some friends of yours. Would you
then think all Asians are inferior and deserve to be killed? If they did
it on purpose would you *then* think all Asians are inferior and deserve
to be killed?

Stephen

Yes, a group of Arabs (people from Arabia) killed a whole bunch of
your people and destroyed a lot of your real estate and you never say
a word. Right?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:35:07 -0500, Harry
wrote:

On 2/27/10 7:57 PM, Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:03:05 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Capt. wrote in news:zP-dncsy_
reasolutions:

wrote in message
...
wrote in news:79711f1e-f9e8-4e35-bd25-
:

It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe


Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry


Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.


Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?

A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about Baptists
is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive about
any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same
grief, maybe more.

Stephen


I suggest that your statement is incorrect. Do some research on the
type of jokes told in the Catskill resorts, commonly known as the
Borsch Belt. Or read up on current Israeli humor. You will find that
the jokes are far more vicious then the rather innocuous remarks made
by Larry.

And, if you think that a joke about Baptists can't be derogatory have
a look at N. Irish humor, or even British, for that matter who not
only differentiate between "church" and "chapel" but also proper
schools and "red brick universities".

And is you want to hear really vicious ethnic humor listen to the
Chinese, if you want to talk about Asians.

In fact I have never been anywhere that the "people" didn't talk about
the "other people". I don't know that condemning something that
appears to be universal is entirely logical.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I think there's a big difference between Borsch Belt humor and the many
racist comments Larry's made over the last, say, year. Perhaps you missed
them. I think Stephen recalls them, which was why he commented. I certainly
do. I called Larry on them then, and I do now.



The old borscht belt humor was about Jews telling jokes about Jews to
other Jews. Larry's anti-Jewish comments and "jokes" are grounded in his
anti-Semitism.


Ah.. rather a prejudgment isn't that? Larry is anti-Semitic and thus
if he uses the word "Jew" twice in a row it is bad?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On 2/28/10 9:38 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:35:07 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/27/10 7:57 PM, Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:03:05 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Capt. wrote in news:zP-dncsy_
reasolutions:

wrote in message
...
wrote in news:79711f1e-f9e8-4e35-bd25-
:

It's bad JuJu to count your eggs at sea.

Joe


Talking about money, wouldn't that be bad JewJew?


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry


Larry, your racism really has no place here or anywhere.


Why isn't anyone allowed to make a JOKE with the word JEW in it?

Am I supposed to feel guilty? I don't.

If I make a joke about Baptists, noone complains. Why only Jews?

A derogatory joke about Jews is racist, a derogatory joke about Baptists
is not racist. Pretty simple. If you were consistently derisive about
any other race, like Africans or Asians, you'd be getting the same
grief, maybe more.

Stephen


I suggest that your statement is incorrect. Do some research on the
type of jokes told in the Catskill resorts, commonly known as the
Borsch Belt. Or read up on current Israeli humor. You will find that
the jokes are far more vicious then the rather innocuous remarks made
by Larry.

And, if you think that a joke about Baptists can't be derogatory have
a look at N. Irish humor, or even British, for that matter who not
only differentiate between "church" and "chapel" but also proper
schools and "red brick universities".

And is you want to hear really vicious ethnic humor listen to the
Chinese, if you want to talk about Asians.

In fact I have never been anywhere that the "people" didn't talk about
the "other people". I don't know that condemning something that
appears to be universal is entirely logical.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I think there's a big difference between Borsch Belt humor and the many
racist comments Larry's made over the last, say, year. Perhaps you missed
them. I think Stephen recalls them, which was why he commented. I certainly
do. I called Larry on them then, and I do now.



The old borscht belt humor was about Jews telling jokes about Jews to
other Jews. Larry's anti-Jewish comments and "jokes" are grounded in his
anti-Semitism.


Ah.. rather a prejudgment isn't that? Larry is anti-Semitic and thus
if he uses the word "Jew" twice in a row it is bad?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



There's no question Larry has a strong dislike for folks who are Jewish.
He's expressed this many times over the years.