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Sail Trim Question
We used our drifter sail yesterday on our 22 foot sloop,
which we hadn't tried for several years. The conditions on Lake Michigan were light 6-8 knots and it pulled the boat nicely on a beam reach. It does even better on a run, when we used it previously with a whisker pole. A drifter, for those who don't know, is kind of a cruiser's spinnaker, but much less complicated and usable for points of sail, other than a run. Like the spinnaker, it is very light weight and useful in light airs, which we don't get often on Lake Michigan. Problem I noticed is that with the drifter run all the way up the forestay, there was still slack in the luff of the sail. This is a hanked on sail. The sail came with a built in wire lead at the tack, about 18 inches long. Should I simply shorten this wire lead to solve this problem? Sherwin |
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sherwin dubren wrote:
We used our drifter sail yesterday ... I noticed ... that with the drifter run all the way up the forestay, there was still slack in the luff ... sail. This is a hanked on sail. The sail came with a built in wire lead at the tack, about 18 inches long. Should I simply shorten this wire lead to solve this problem? Was this sail built specifically for this boat? If that's the case then the sailmaker (or a previous owner) just didn't set it up correctly. If bought used, then that explains the issue. You can safely either shorten or eliminate the wire pennant with no ill effects. Just note that this will also require that you adjust the jib sheet lead for best trim. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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Armond Perretta wrote:
sherwin dubren wrote: We used our drifter sail yesterday ... I noticed ... that with the drifter run all the way up the forestay, there was still slack in the luff ... sail. This is a hanked on sail. The sail came with a built in wire lead at the tack, about 18 inches long. Should I simply shorten this wire lead to solve this problem? Was this sail built specifically for this boat? If that's the case then the sailmaker (or a previous owner) just didn't set it up correctly. If bought used, then that explains the issue. You can safely either shorten or eliminate the wire pennant with no ill effects. Just note that this will also require that you adjust the jib sheet lead for best trim. I assume you mean moving the lead forward or back in it's track. This sail was made specifically for us by Oakum Bay in Marblehead, MA. I recollect sending them a copy of the original sail plan from Westerly Marine, so it should have fit the boat. Maybe they were trying to create more of a 'belly' to the sail, but I think they just made this wire lead too long. We are also using a small diameter line for jib sheets so as to not add too much weight to the sail in very light airs. Problem is that this line tends to ride down the winch and get caught in the base. I have no ideas on how to fix that one. The jib sheet lead may be pulling it down, but the lead is at the extreme front of the track for the best sail shape creating this downward pull. Sherwin |
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:31:05 -0500, sherwin dubren
wrote: I recollect sending them a copy of the original sail plan from Westerly Marine, so it should have fit the boat. It is almost impossible to make a sail that fits exactly without taking actual measurements. Have you tried raking your mast further aft by lengthening the headstay and tightening the backstay? If you have dual lower shrouds you will need to adjust them also. Many boats actually sail better with a little aft rake, and it may make your sail fit properly. Racing boats frequently rake the mast aft for light air and bring it back forward when the wind is blowing harder. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:31:05 -0500, sherwin dubren wrote: I recollect sending them a copy of the original sail plan from Westerly Marine, so it should have fit the boat. It is almost impossible to make a sail that fits exactly without taking actual measurements. Have you tried raking your mast further aft by lengthening the headstay and tightening the backstay? If you have dual lower shrouds you will need to adjust them also. Many boats actually sail better with a little aft rake, and it may make your sail fit properly. Racing boats frequently rake the mast aft for light air and bring it back forward when the wind is blowing harder. I am not a racer, so raking the mast has no advantage for me. This sail maker was sent a sail plan. What is also strange is that about the same time frame, we ordered a new main sail from Ratsey in England. At that time, they had access to the sail plans of all the Westerly Boats, but that sail also was cut too big. We had to take it into a sail maker in Islamorada to have it cut down. Do I detect a pattern here? Sherwin |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:35:27 -0500, sherwin dubren
wrote: I am not a racer, so raking the mast has no advantage for me. Not necessarily true if you are interested in light air performance. This sail maker was sent a sail plan. What is also strange is that about the same time frame, we ordered a new main sail from Ratsey in England. At that time, they had access to the sail plans of all the Westerly Boats, but that sail also was cut too big. We had to take it into a sail maker in Islamorada to have it cut down. Do I detect a pattern here? It's possible that your rig is different in someway from the original plans. Why not get a steel tape and measure it ? |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:35:27 -0500, sherwin dubren
wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:31:05 -0500, sherwin dubren wrote: I recollect sending them a copy of the original sail plan from Westerly Marine, so it should have fit the boat. It is almost impossible to make a sail that fits exactly without taking actual measurements. Have you tried raking your mast further aft by lengthening the headstay and tightening the backstay? If you have dual lower shrouds you will need to adjust them also. Many boats actually sail better with a little aft rake, and it may make your sail fit properly. Racing boats frequently rake the mast aft for light air and bring it back forward when the wind is blowing harder. I am not a racer, so raking the mast has no advantage for me. This sail maker was sent a sail plan. What is also strange is that about the same time frame, we ordered a new main sail from Ratsey in England. At that time, they had access to the sail plans of all the Westerly Boats, but that sail also was cut too big. We had to take it into a sail maker in Islamorada to have it cut down. Do I detect a pattern here? Sherwin Perhaps your rig has been altered by a previous owner? That's not so unusual. It's always recommended to take actual and careful measurements of the particular boat, before making sails. In any case, proper rake is not for racers only. It can make a big difference in the handling and performance of any boat, yours included. Just like you don't have to drive a race car to get a benefit from a front end alignment and proper tire pressures. |
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