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GPS Not Recognized
"Armond Perretta" wrote in
: I think you both are onto the explanation. I suspected that something was hijacking the port so I restarted the machine and did not run Capn, but instead tried ON Lite and SeaClear separately. Unfortunately that didn't do the trick as the port still appears to be closed to the other software. What would happen if I used an additional USB-to-serial converter in another USB socket? Maybe I'll try the next time I'm at the yard. The Cap'n driver would load and hijack the port on Windows bootup when the drivers load, not the startup apps. The port is reserved by the driver very early in the process.... Try this non-destructive change. Open Device Manager.... Click the + box next to USB Controllers and look for the driver Cap'n has its name on or some USB-to-Serial driver which may be more generic. I've never hunted this driver down, myself. Open any USB controller driver that looks like The Cap'n and look at the driver's author. There is a selector to DISABLE the driver without uninstalling The Cap'n, which would free up the port so your other software could access the USB data coming in. You can always re-ENABLE it to make it work again for The Cap'n. OK your way out and remember how you got there, then try the new softwares. -- Larry |
GPS Not Recognized
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message ... Steve Lusardi wrote: If one application sees your GPSs, the problem with Offshore Navigation Light and SeaClearII is clearly not hardware. That stated, the question is now the new applications. How did you get them? Are they legal? Do you need an activation code? Do you need a dongle? How about calling application tech support if you have legal copies. SeaClear is freeware with an open license. ON Lite is essentially freeware that Maptech supplied (or still supplies?) with certain chart packages that are encrypted. It was necessary, for example, to load ON Lite to set up my Bermuda electronic charts. In both cases these apps are "legal" if I understand the nature of your comment. Good point, but I am not sure this is the issue. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare You might find something in here, SeaClear Manual MMV En.pdf, part of the SeaClear file download. Dennis. |
GPS Not Recognized
Larry wrote:
Open Device Manager.... Click the + box next to USB Controllers and look for the driver Cap'n has its name on or some USB-to-Serial driver which may be more generic. I've never hunted this driver down, myself. Open any USB controller driver that looks like The Cap'n and look at the driver's author. There is a selector to DISABLE the driver without uninstalling The Cap'n, which would free up the port so your other software could access the USB data coming in. You can always re-ENABLE it to make it work again for The Cap'n ... I have 2 identical laptops with Capn and the other software installed on each. As far as is possible these are identical installations (the idea being that a complete back-up computer is simpler than reinstalling, reformatting, etc., in a pinch). I used these computers on a recent cruise to southern New England and they were fine, although at that time I had not started messing with ON Lite or SeaClear. BTW these apps were loaded mostly out of curiosity. I may consider migrating if the support situation with Capn remains at its current low level (and I started using Capn with its DOS version in 1993). On the laptop I'm using right now to type this, there is a complete Capn install with a USB-to-serial dongle. This setup was in use recently and ran well, including the interface with the SR162 AIS receiver. I purchased a "Y" adapter from Milltech that allows me to feed the GPS into the AIS receiver, which then transmits the combined GPS and AIS data at 38,000 BAUD to the laptop via the USB-to-serial adapter. A little bit Rube Goldbergy but it works. Believe me, it was way COOL to get targets and CPA on the screen, especially in a breeze at night off Montauk. But that's another subject. Here's some info on the hardware on this box. The Capn works with the associated USB converter. However I also manage my home alarm system with this box. The panel communicates with the DLS software via a serial port, and in the present case I use the same USB-to-serial converter. And it works just fine. In other words on this computer, I can run Capn and get GPS data in the afternoon, then take the computer home and manage the alarm that night. No port hijacking. Puzzling(?). -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
GPS Not Recognized
Hi, Armond,
Others have preceded me but a couple of observations from my point of view he Once Cap'n (or any other) is running with the GPS found, it's using that port. You'd need another USB puck to make them work simultaneously. I discovered this by trying to use Capn and Maxsea together. My setup is hardwired to a Serial port, not an adapter, so that's not the issue... That said, I had a S/U adapter which should have worked out of the box, but didn't, for my Pactor modem. I had to use a Knoppix tool to discover who made it, and from there was able to download the proper driver. Once that was installed, it worked properly. So, if you haven't done that, likely the adapter has specific drivers that are needed. It may be that the Cap'n has those drivers and can make it happen without their being native in the startup of your computer. Another anomaly I discovered is that my HD through a powered hub won't succeed in an Acronis backup. Run directly to a USB port it works fine. So, even though it's a high quality hub, there's data problems, apparently, for some applications. HTH... L8R Skip, still refitting, but getting close - Sept 8 we leave with grandkids for a sea trial to see if they want to go to the Bahamas via ocean with us the following week (or whenever the right weather window shows up) -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand (Richard Bach) |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:21:22 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote: Skip, still refitting, but getting close - Sept 8 we leave with grandkids for a sea trial to see if they want to go to the Bahamas via ocean with us the following week (or whenever the right weather window shows up) Skip, I would *really*, *strongly* encourage you to wait for the end of the hurricane season before going offshore. After Nov 1 is usually a good time. |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:04:35 +0000, Larry wrote:
My captain didn't like the USB cord dangling off the chart table, so I wifi'd the whole system using a Webfoot RS232 (close enough) to Ethernet adapter on the serial port of the boat's Noland NMEA multiplexer. Cool. Sounds like you need 2 WebFoot adapters unless you have a multiplexer with ethernet out? Is there a provision for multiple listeners on the same ethernet data stream, using multiple Webfoot adapters? |
GPS Not Recognized
Larry wrote:
.. Open Device Manager.... Click the + box next to USB Controllers and look for the driver Cap'n has its name on or some USB-to-Serial driver which may be more generic. I've never hunted this driver down, myself. Open any USB controller driver that looks like The Cap'n and look at the driver's author. There is a selector to DISABLE the driver without uninstalling The Cap'n, which would free up the port so your other software could access the USB data coming in. You can always re-ENABLE it to make it work again for The Cap'n ... On both of the laptops I use for navigation, I was unable to find anything in the USB section of Device Manager that was other than Microsoft-generic. All the usual standard drivers from about 2001 for USB hubs, etc. However under the Ports section in Device Manager I located the virtual serial port whose driver matched the driver I loaded from software supplied by the manufacturer. I disabled this, but was unable to see GPS data or capture the port with either SeaClear or ON Lite. I did not yet take a second USB-serial adapter down to the boat yard and try that angle. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: Cool. Sounds like you need 2 WebFoot adapters unless you have a multiplexer with ethernet out? Is there a provision for multiple listeners on the same ethernet data stream, using multiple Webfoot adapters? The RS-232C port on the Noland is bidirectional. It takes and sends serial data from the one Webfoot fine. I don't think you can connect more than one Ethernet user to it at a time. It's been on the boat and working so long I've forgotten but it doesn't say that in the pdf on: http://www.i****chdogs.com/DataSheets/WF111803.pdf -- Larry |
GPS Not Recognized
"Armond Perretta" wrote in
: On both of the laptops I use for navigation, I was unable to find anything in the USB section of Device Manager that was other than Microsoft-generic. All the usual standard drivers from about 2001 for USB hubs, etc. However under the Ports section in Device Manager I located the virtual serial port whose driver matched the driver I loaded from software supplied by the manufacturer. I disabled this, but was unable to see GPS data or capture the port with either SeaClear or ON Lite. I did not yet take a second USB-serial adapter down to the boat yard and try that angle. Let's see if there is data on the port and if we can connect to it. Open HyperTerminal from the Windows Accessories/Communications and setup to read the port the NMEA data USB to Serial adapter is using. If NMEA data is on the port, it will stream across hyperterminal like mad. Turn the virtual serial port back on to create the COM port for Hyperterminal to connect to.....Once you get that running and data streaming, these other programs should see it too, but only one at a time. Only one app can connect to a serial port at a time. -- Larry |
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