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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:14:21 -0400, Jonathan Wye
wrote: I saw this ad on Craigslist.Boston and just had to share. Here is a link to the ad: Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/boa/1298967858.html Here is the original text if the ad disappears...it includes pics of a Searay on trailer and a head w/porta potty.. Date: 2009-07-31, 2:35PM EDT Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] I just bought a Searay Sundancer... I've only ever really been on a boat as a kid..My grandfathers row boat!! I want to take it to Bermuda.. I am a computer engineer and my wife is an organist at the local chapel... We don't think we get seasick but not really sure... I figured that if we us the fresh water tank as a fuel tank and put on four 55 gallon drums of gas we should just about make it... CAN YOU HELP?? I will pay 2000 dollars and all travel expenses.. We would prefer someone who has at least two years experience driving boats..... Also - the boat is great!!! I just bought the best Garmin handheld GPS and I have some maps too! LETS DO IT!!!!!!!! Should make the trip just fine if they can fit it into a shipping container. |
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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
Jonathan Wye wrote in news:61Kcm.47663$nL7.3354
@newsfe18.iad: I just bought a Searay Sundancer... The whole array of "cabin cruisers" are "Sundancers". How big is it? What power does it have? How many engines? diesel or gas? Is it a stern drive with a foot that looks like an outboard motor? Your other problem is YOU. You have ZERO experience at sea, no sea time at all. That, alone, even on a seaworthy boat is more than enough reason to put this fantasy out of your mind before you kill yourself and your family aboard.... NEVER go to sea in anything that has no backup power. TWO engines, minimum, EIGHT if their converted car engines like Mercruisers. NEVER go to sea in anything powered by a stern drive. You must see a boat flood because of a cracked stern drive diaphram to understand why. Stern drives are for LAKE boats where you can swim ashore. You made no mention, whatsoever, of a Ditch Bag, a Liferaft, or the pile of safety-at-sea equipment sailors do not leave the harbor without. You need a REGISTERED-TO-YOUR-BOAT 406 Mhz EPIRB for that liferaft so search and rescue can be called via satellite....preregistered to your specific boat. Never leave harbor without it. You may think you're going to go roar off into the ocean in that speed boat you bought and drive it like a car. That's simply not going to be the case. On its BEST days, the ocean has 3-5' waves. On its worst days, which can crop up as if by magic sometimes out of nowhere, you're staring at seas as high as 9, 12, 15, 18, 25 feet high! There's going to be no planing speeds on a 30' cabin cruiser. That's not reality offshore. Ok, let's put away the dreams for a bit and help you get more experience...... I don't own a yacht, but crew on many of them out of Charleston, SC. I don't go as often as I used to, another reality that sets in when you get that first social security check. I'm not as useful as I used to be. 90% are sailboats, which are much more fun than power at sea. What YOU need is experience. Every yacht at the marina near the ocean is always shorthanded. They don't sail well unless someone is at the helm, 24 HOURS A DAY offshore. You can't just stop and everyone go to sleep. It doesn't work that way. So, what you need to do is to wheedle your way aboard with some experienced sailors or motoryacht people who do go offshore. The way to get aboard is to use your natural skills to make friends at the docks. I have no idea what you can do. I'm a very skilled electronics technician. I'm also good at fixing things mechanical including diesel engines and am not afraid to go home looking like a bilge rat from a fishing scow after a day fixing stuff in the bilge of some really nice boats I get to play with at THEIR expense. Define what you can do for the local yachtsmen, be a very nice person and don't be afraid to roll up your sleeves to pitch in and help fix it. That's easily the best key to the boat. When they try to use their money to pay you, refuse it. "What can we do for you?", after you've fixed the Refusitron 5000, they'll say. "Just take me with you once in a while.", is my favorite answer. If you're a nice guy and genuinely helpful, man are YOU gonna be popular! "Larry, my buddy Mike has trouble getting out on his VHF radio. Can you help him figure it out like you did mine?" Of course I can! Mike has that nice Beneteau 40-something on F-dock! I'd love to go sailing on it...(c;] This is where you should start. I'm too late to save you from Sea Ray's clutches, but maybe we can get you enough experience with some knowledgeable sailors to keep you from killing the kids at sea. You can always trade off the Sea Ray for a proper boat, later on.....(c;] Now, tell us more about WHICH Sea Ray Sundancer you have and how it's powered and what its tankage is so we can discourage you further...(c;] By the way, there's NOTHING you could do to secure a 55 gallon drum to that pretty plastic boat rolling 45 degrees in the waves 5 miles towards Bermuda.....It's NOT A LAKE! -- Larry http://flightaware.com/analysis/allflights_movie.rvt Each tiny red dot is an airliner in this Quicktime movie, ONE recent day of air travel in the USA. What would happen if "they" found out this was the real source of air pollution or cancer or why all the bugs around my streetlight have disappeared? Would "they" tell us? Would "they" STOP IT?! |
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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
Jonathan Wye wrote in news:61Kcm.47663$nL7.3354
@newsfe18.iad: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/boa/1298967858.html Oops. I just looked at the craigslist page. The answer is NO. This boat is a dayboat made for a large lake or the weekend on the harbor. I still can't see it's drive, but I've got one gas Mercruiser car engined sterndrive on my mind. Correct? -- Larry http://flightaware.com/analysis/allflights_movie.rvt Each tiny red dot is an airliner in this Quicktime movie, ONE recent day of air travel in the USA. What would happen if "they" found out this was the real source of air pollution or cancer or why all the bugs around my streetlight have disappeared? Would "they" tell us? Would "they" STOP IT?! |
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A line from the perfect storm comes to mind "They are always from
Gloucester". |
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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
Larry, get the attribution correct. I just re-posted the
Craigslist.ad... I AM NOT THE AUTHOR I KNOW BETTER THAN THIS GUY..... I own an Alberg 35 Jonathan Larry wrote: Jonathan Wye wrote in news:61Kcm.47663$nL7.3354 @newsfe18.iad: I just bought a Searay Sundancer... The whole array of "cabin cruisers" are "Sundancers". How big is it? What power does it have? How many engines? diesel or gas? Is it a stern drive with a foot that looks like an outboard motor? Your other problem is YOU. You have ZERO experience at sea, no sea time at all. That, alone, even on a seaworthy boat is more than enough reason to put this fantasy out of your mind before you kill yourself and your family aboard.... NEVER go to sea in anything that has no backup power. TWO engines, minimum, EIGHT if their converted car engines like Mercruisers. NEVER go to sea in anything powered by a stern drive. You must see a boat flood because of a cracked stern drive diaphram to understand why. Stern drives are for LAKE boats where you can swim ashore. You made no mention, whatsoever, of a Ditch Bag, a Liferaft, or the pile of safety-at-sea equipment sailors do not leave the harbor without. You need a REGISTERED-TO-YOUR-BOAT 406 Mhz EPIRB for that liferaft so search and rescue can be called via satellite....preregistered to your specific boat. Never leave harbor without it. You may think you're going to go roar off into the ocean in that speed boat you bought and drive it like a car. That's simply not going to be the case. On its BEST days, the ocean has 3-5' waves. On its worst days, which can crop up as if by magic sometimes out of nowhere, you're staring at seas as high as 9, 12, 15, 18, 25 feet high! There's going to be no planing speeds on a 30' cabin cruiser. That's not reality offshore. Ok, let's put away the dreams for a bit and help you get more experience...... I don't own a yacht, but crew on many of them out of Charleston, SC. I don't go as often as I used to, another reality that sets in when you get that first social security check. I'm not as useful as I used to be. 90% are sailboats, which are much more fun than power at sea. What YOU need is experience. Every yacht at the marina near the ocean is always shorthanded. They don't sail well unless someone is at the helm, 24 HOURS A DAY offshore. You can't just stop and everyone go to sleep. It doesn't work that way. So, what you need to do is to wheedle your way aboard with some experienced sailors or motoryacht people who do go offshore. The way to get aboard is to use your natural skills to make friends at the docks. I have no idea what you can do. I'm a very skilled electronics technician. I'm also good at fixing things mechanical including diesel engines and am not afraid to go home looking like a bilge rat from a fishing scow after a day fixing stuff in the bilge of some really nice boats I get to play with at THEIR expense. Define what you can do for the local yachtsmen, be a very nice person and don't be afraid to roll up your sleeves to pitch in and help fix it. That's easily the best key to the boat. When they try to use their money to pay you, refuse it. "What can we do for you?", after you've fixed the Refusitron 5000, they'll say. "Just take me with you once in a while.", is my favorite answer. If you're a nice guy and genuinely helpful, man are YOU gonna be popular! "Larry, my buddy Mike has trouble getting out on his VHF radio. Can you help him figure it out like you did mine?" Of course I can! Mike has that nice Beneteau 40-something on F-dock! I'd love to go sailing on it...(c;] This is where you should start. I'm too late to save you from Sea Ray's clutches, but maybe we can get you enough experience with some knowledgeable sailors to keep you from killing the kids at sea. You can always trade off the Sea Ray for a proper boat, later on.....(c;] Now, tell us more about WHICH Sea Ray Sundancer you have and how it's powered and what its tankage is so we can discourage you further...(c;] By the way, there's NOTHING you could do to secure a 55 gallon drum to that pretty plastic boat rolling 45 degrees in the waves 5 miles towards Bermuda.....It's NOT A LAKE! |
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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
Jonathan Wye wrote:
I saw this ad on Craigslist.Boston and just had to share. Here is a link to the ad: Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/boa/1298967858.html Here is the original text if the ad disappears...it includes pics of a Searay on trailer and a head w/porta potty.. Date: 2009-07-31, 2:35PM EDT Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] I just bought a Searay Sundancer... I've only ever really been on a boat as a kid..My grandfathers row boat!! I want to take it to Bermuda.. I am a computer engineer and my wife is an organist at the local chapel... We don't think we get seasick but not really sure... I figured that if we us the fresh water tank as a fuel tank and put on four 55 gallon drums of gas we should just about make it... CAN YOU HELP?? I will pay 2000 dollars and all travel expenses.. We would prefer someone who has at least two years experience driving boats..... Also - the boat is great!!! I just bought the best Garmin handheld GPS and I have some maps too! LETS DO IT!!!!!!!! Location: Gloucester it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial I hit "Best of Craigslist." We all should. |
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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
On Jul 31, 11:50*pm, Jim wrote:
Jonathan Wye wrote: I saw this ad on Craigslist.Boston and just had to share. *Here is a link to the ad: Original URL:http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/boa/1298967858.html Here is the original text if the ad disappears...it includes pics of a Searay on trailer and a head w/porta potty.. Date: 2009-07-31, 2:35PM EDT Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?] I just bought a Searay Sundancer... I've only ever really been on a boat as a kid..My grandfathers row boat!! I want to take it to Bermuda.. I am a computer engineer and my wife is an organist at the local chapel... We don't think we get seasick but not really sure... I figured that if we us the fresh water tank as a fuel tank and put on four 55 gallon drums of gas we should just about make it... CAN YOU HELP?? I will pay 2000 dollars and all travel expenses.. We would prefer someone who has at least two years experience driving boats..... Also - the boat is great!!! I just bought the best Garmin handheld GPS and I have some maps too! LETS DO IT!!!!!!!! Location: Gloucester it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial I hit "Best of Craigslist." *We all should.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Think it might be a "JOKE"? Let's see who bites! |
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Gloucester to Bermuda on a Searay Sundancer?
"my wife is an organist at the local chapel" Yeah, that should help........ All together now! "Shall we gather at the river........" |
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