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Captains License?
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m... slide wrote: cavelamb wrote: Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack) next month. Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what would be a good reason to have a captains ticket. Also? What's the legal down side? I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know what to study. Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some instances you can't plead ignorance. No argument about that... I started out with a Coast Guard ticket in the mid '70s while on active duty in the Navy. In the last year I've taken most of the ASA classes. My next step with ASA is an instructor rating  .I was thinking about the 6pack course to get a Captains ticket, but I don't really need it for what I'm doing. It is not needed to teach through ASA. Still considering it, but will probably pass this time. Maybe some day though... But I'm curious how many of our local experts have a Captains license? Or even training from a school like ASA? Richard Most schools, either ASA or USSailing, will require a CG license if you're teaching on a boat with an engine. 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message m... slide wrote: cavelamb wrote: Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack) next month. Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what would be a good reason to have a captains ticket. Also? What's the legal down side? I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know what to study. Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some instances you can't plead ignorance. No argument about that... I started out with a Coast Guard ticket in the mid '70s while on active duty in the Navy. In the last year I've taken most of the ASA classes. My next step with ASA is an instructor rating .I was thinking about the 6pack course to get a Captains ticket, but I don't really need it for what I'm doing. It is not needed to teach through ASA. Still considering it, but will probably pass this time. Maybe some day though... But I'm curious how many of our local experts have a Captains license? Or even training from a school like ASA? Richard Most schools, either ASA or USSailing, will require a CG license if you're teaching on a boat with an engine. 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. Not mentioned on the ASA site... http://www.asa.com/instructors/instructor_clinics.html US Sailing requirements... http://training.ussailing.org/Teachi...rerequ isites Candidates holding a current USCG full or limited Master's or OUPV license are exempt from this requirement. Candidates have a responsibility to meet the boating laws of the state where the course is being held prior to being able to operate a powerboat in conjunction with the course. This is a new requirement. Please bring your certificate to the course. |
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JG,
Sorry if that came across as abrupt. I was interrupted by the dinner bell. I suspect the requirements don't include a Captains ticket because one would be working under the umbrella of the school. If one were to open a new school, you would probably be right. Richard |
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Captains License?
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m... Capt. JG wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message m... slide wrote: cavelamb wrote: Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack) next month. Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what would be a good reason to have a captains ticket. Also? What's the legal down side? I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know what to study. Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some instances you can't plead ignorance. No argument about that... I started out with a Coast Guard ticket in the mid '70s while on active duty in the Navy. In the last year I've taken most of the ASA classes. My next step with ASA is an instructor rating .I was thinking about the 6pack course to get a Captains ticket, but I don't really need it for what I'm doing. It is not needed to teach through ASA. Still considering it, but will probably pass this time. Maybe some day though... But I'm curious how many of our local experts have a Captains license? Or even training from a school like ASA? Richard Most schools, either ASA or USSailing, will require a CG license if you're teaching on a boat with an engine. 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. Not mentioned on the ASA site... http://www.asa.com/instructors/instructor_clinics.html US Sailing requirements... http://training.ussailing.org/Teachi...rerequ isites Candidates holding a current USCG full or limited Master's or OUPV license are exempt from this requirement. Candidates have a responsibility to meet the boating laws of the state where the course is being held prior to being able to operate a powerboat in conjunction with the course. This is a new requirement. Please bring your certificate to the course. Interesting that it isn't. It's a Federal requirement (USCG). -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Jul 30, 6:42*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message m... slide wrote: cavelamb wrote: Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack) next month. Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what would be a good reason to have a captains ticket. Also? What's the legal down side? I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know what to study. Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some instances you can't plead ignorance. No argument about that... I started out with a Coast Guard ticket in the mid '70s while on active duty in the Navy. In the last year I've taken most of the ASA classes. My next step with ASA is an instructor rating .I was thinking about the 6pack course to get a Captains ticket, but I don't really need it for what I'm doing. It is not needed to teach through ASA. Still considering it, but will probably pass this time. Maybe some day though... But I'm curious how many of our local experts have a Captains license? Or even training from a school like ASA? Richard Most schools, either ASA or USSailing, will require a CG license if you're teaching on a boat with an engine. 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. now is that INLAND or NEAR COAST? So ya lied on the Small Service Form about all that time on your 29' sailboat???? Good-on! Lets see, "... a day over 5 GRT will get you 50 ton. BOb |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On Jul 30, 6:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message m... slide wrote: cavelamb wrote: Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack) next month. Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what would be a good reason to have a captains ticket. Also? What's the legal down side? I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know what to study. Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some instances you can't plead ignorance. No argument about that... I started out with a Coast Guard ticket in the mid '70s while on active duty in the Navy. In the last year I've taken most of the ASA classes. My next step with ASA is an instructor rating .I was thinking about the 6pack course to get a Captains ticket, but I don't really need it for what I'm doing. It is not needed to teach through ASA. Still considering it, but will probably pass this time. Maybe some day though... But I'm curious how many of our local experts have a Captains license? Or even training from a school like ASA? Richard Most schools, either ASA or USSailing, will require a CG license if you're teaching on a boat with an engine. 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. now is that INLAND or NEAR COAST? So ya lied on the Small Service Form about all that time on your 29' sailboat???? Good-on! Lets see, "... a day over 5 GRT will get you 50 ton. BOb ?? Are you playing dumb? You answered your question yourself. I have a 50GT inland and an OUPV Near Coastal. FYI, it's a 30'. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. Argg since we are hanging our peckers out for all to gaze: LIVE FROM FOUCHON LOUISIANA 100 grt/200 grt Near Coast AB Unlimited, RFPNW Next stop 1600 GRT Mate Its pretty knarly in the oilpatch i get to tie-up the boat (900+GRT/ 180+') using 3" nylon..... try humping that around n tossing an eye over a bit.... Argg...! What can you do with a OUPV? not much get the Master License its only a day or two longer and then you can be a crewboat Captain like whats his name of the SUNK Red Clown..... Hell you can get your MMC and go work for a living Bob |
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On Aug 12, 8:37*am, Bob wrote:
50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. Argg since we are hanging our peckers out for all to gaze: LIVE FROM FOUCHON LOUISIANA 100 grt/200 grt Near Coast AB Unlimited, RFPNW Next stop 1600 GRT Mate Its pretty knarly in the oilpatch i get to tie-up the boat (900+GRT/ 180+') using 3" nylon..... try humping that around n tossing an eye over a bit.... Argg...! What can you do with a OUPV? not much get the Master License its only a day or two longer *and then you can be a crewboat Captain like whats his name of the SUNK Red Clown..... Hell you can get your MMC and go work for a living Bob Hey Bob..I saw you attacking Rob's wife.. Are you like that fellow who hates all women because of constant rejection? The loser who murdered all the women at the gym? Seems like it to me..... I mean why would you attack a woman you do not know? Did it make you feel more manly?. You define "chicken****" and "douchbag" IMO. I doubt anyone will turn a boat over to you. If you just got an unlimited AB you have a very long road ahead, 3+ years underway for a 1600 masters. Thats going to take you 6 years most likely. You are crying like a little baby tossing 3" lines...ya will never make it "Slave"/green horn. A crew boat would beat you to death. Sheeze you're not able to toss a 3"nylon or poly line with out crying about it. Crewboats take more skill and agility to run than any other type of boats in the field no, you will be up against 20 and 30 yo Captns with more time in the field. A little douchbag like you who thinks it's funny when a person loses a boat will get what you deserve at sea. I've know a dozen Captains that have lost boats, crew members, and have had very serious injuries. None of it is a joke, it is part of the job.. Only a stupid greenhorn, asshole, know it all, like you thinks it's funny. Again..what comes around will go around. Most likely you are a liar and have never set foot on any anchor boat, we all know you use a sock puppet to hide behind, because you are not man enough to be real. Stay behind momma's skirt "Bob" you can not handle the real world. Joe |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. Argg since we are hanging our peckers out for all to gaze: LIVE FROM FOUCHON LOUISIANA 100 grt/200 grt Near Coast AB Unlimited, RFPNW Next stop 1600 GRT Mate Its pretty knarly in the oilpatch i get to tie-up the boat (900+GRT/ 180+') using 3" nylon..... try humping that around n tossing an eye over a bit.... Argg...! What can you do with a OUPV? not much get the Master License its only a day or two longer and then you can be a crewboat Captain like whats his name of the SUNK Red Clown..... Hell you can get your MMC and go work for a living Bob I think it's time everybody stopped beating up poor Joe for his being unable to complete a simple voyage from Belize to Texas without sinking his beloved "Red Cloud." After all, when you spend thousands upon thousands of hours at sea as a professional captain like Joe has, sooner or later you will end up having a mishap or two. The odds just piled up against poor Joe. He couldn't help it. There was nothing he could have done to prevent that storm of the century, early winter, cold front from sinking his boat. Let's look at it closer. 1) Since Joe obviously is a motorboater and not a blowboater his diesel was the only thing he was used to relying on. He was told over and over again by this author that pilothouse sailboats were dangerous and not suited to an extended ocean voyage. I guess a motorboater must have his pilothouse, nonetheless . . . 2) Joe never developed adequate sailing skills and strategy because of his overreliance on the diesel. He obviously knew nothing about sailing standards and protocol. That football stadium sized American flag sort of tells the whole sordid tale. 3) When the diesel failed Joe still kept the diesel mentality which told him to bash to weather at all costs. Stick to the schedule. Muscle his way through. 4) Poor Joe just didn't have what it takes to be a real sailor despite his constant bragging about his sailing prowess. Like most of the good folks who post to RBC, poor Joe is just another motorhead trying to be seen as a sailor. He thought he could pull the wool over everybody's eyes with his bullcrap but when push came to shove his inadequately prepared and crewed motorsail boat was prematurely abandoned and pushed and shoved all the way to the bottom of the Gulf. So, please give motorboat Joe a break. It wasn't his fault. It was simply HIS turn to be sunk by a little ole Gulf cold front. If even the most competent of us real sailors who know how to sail and who know sailing strategy and sailing preparation get sunk once in a while why should it be expected that Joe NOT to be an eventual victim? I guess I should thank MY lucky stars that after thousands of miles of ocean voyaging under pure sail that I haven't sunk a boat to date. I'm sure skill and preparation has NOTHING to do with it. It's just the luck of the draw. Yup! That's the ticket. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Captains License?
"Bob" wrote in message
... 50GT here with sailing and towing endorsements. Argg since we are hanging our peckers out for all to gaze: LIVE FROM FOUCHON LOUISIANA 100 grt/200 grt Near Coast AB Unlimited, RFPNW Next stop 1600 GRT Mate Its pretty knarly in the oilpatch i get to tie-up the boat (900+GRT/ 180+') using 3" nylon..... try humping that around n tossing an eye over a bit.... Argg...! What can you do with a OUPV? not much get the Master License its only a day or two longer and then you can be a crewboat Captain like whats his name of the SUNK Red Clown..... Hell you can get your MMC and go work for a living Bob Unless you have an inspected vessel or serve on one, the OUPV is totally adequate for teaching sailing, which is what the question was about. It doesn't matter what license you have if you teach on an uninspected vessel. You're limited by the 6-pack restrictions. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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