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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote: I can't get my main to the top without a winch either, unless there's minimal wind. External halyards and good slide/track mechanism makes most of that go away. Had a 30ft Seafarer with a high aspect sail plan (small main, only 10 ft boom) and external halyards. Never had a problem with the main. Lew I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:20:45 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote: I can't get my main to the top without a winch either, unless there's minimal wind. External halyards and good slide/track mechanism makes most of that go away. Had a 30ft Seafarer with a high aspect sail plan (small main, only 10 ft boom) and external halyards. Never had a problem with the main. Lew I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. Well mine was a high tech design. The boom was on a slide so you wound sail and boom up to the "black band" and then you tensioned the bluff with a Cunningham attached to the bottom of the gooseneck. With 40 ft. of luff length and a nice strong boom and gooseneck (read heavy) and a cruising sail it was not a trivial project the get the whole kit and kaboodle wound up and cleated. Then of course you have to tension the luff. Reefing was a particular pain as the first couple of feet of halyard just let the boom descend. then pull in the reef and then you got to go through the whole rigamoral of hoisting and tensioning again. One of the main reasons I built the roller reefing system. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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![]() "Capt. JG" wrote: I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. I forget the name of the outfit I was looking at, they were based in FL. They would send you a plastic gage to get the correct size of your track. Try this one, it rings a bell: http://preview.tinyurl.com/l6k27m Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote: I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. I forget the name of the outfit I was looking at, they were based in FL. They would send you a plastic gage to get the correct size of your track. Try this one, it rings a bell: http://preview.tinyurl.com/l6k27m Lew Yeah, I've been looking at these... I believe Salty recommended it as well. Perhaps next season. It's not that difficult that I'd spend the money on it right now. I was thinking I'd wait for when I need to replace my main, but that's going to be a while. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote:
Yeah, I've been looking at these... I believe Salty recommended it as well. What caught my eye was their business model. Pick a problem in a specialty market, then provide a solution. Somehow I think you would be happy with them. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote: Yeah, I've been looking at these... I believe Salty recommended it as well. What caught my eye was their business model. Pick a problem in a specialty market, then provide a solution. Somehow I think you would be happy with them. Lew Maybe. But, I ususally create my own problems. lol -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:20:45 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote: I can't get my main to the top without a winch either, unless there's minimal wind. External halyards and good slide/track mechanism makes most of that go away. Had a 30ft Seafarer with a high aspect sail plan (small main, only 10 ft boom) and external halyards. Never had a problem with the main. Lew I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. Tides Marine has an excellent system for a LOT less moola than Harken. Makes the main feel like it's not even attached to the mast. About $25 a foot, complete, and you can install it yourself. |
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... On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:20:45 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote: I can't get my main to the top without a winch either, unless there's minimal wind. External halyards and good slide/track mechanism makes most of that go away. Had a 30ft Seafarer with a high aspect sail plan (small main, only 10 ft boom) and external halyards. Never had a problem with the main. Lew I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. Tides Marine has an excellent system for a LOT less moola than Harken. Makes the main feel like it's not even attached to the mast. About $25 a foot, complete, and you can install it yourself. Did you install the receptacle on the sail yourself or did you have the loft do it? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:50:00 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:20:45 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote: I can't get my main to the top without a winch either, unless there's minimal wind. External halyards and good slide/track mechanism makes most of that go away. Had a 30ft Seafarer with a high aspect sail plan (small main, only 10 ft boom) and external halyards. Never had a problem with the main. Lew I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. Tides Marine has an excellent system for a LOT less moola than Harken. Makes the main feel like it's not even attached to the mast. About $25 a foot, complete, and you can install it yourself. Did you install the receptacle on the sail yourself or did you have the loft do it? Did it all myself. Only problem I had with the installation was that I measured a little too tight for how the track fit into the mast, and had a bit of a struggle getting it all the way up the mast slot. In retrospect, It really doesn't need to be a terribly precise or tight fit at all. I called and spoke to the guy who custom cuts the track a few times, and he was great to deal with. I would recommend that you talk to him on the phone after you take the measurements to tell him what you came up with. He may even have measurements from a sister ship to compare to what you find. They send you a kit with plastic gauges and instructions for the measuring. I think they charge a small fee for the kit, but ceredit it back from your order. If I had to do it over, I would take the measurements and ask them to send a short sample piece first, especially if you play to install it with the mast up. I'm guessing they would probably be willing to do that. They really seem to want happy customers. Sounds like a great company to work with. I've found a few of those out there... actually care about customers or potential customers. My main concern (slight pun intended) is the sail attachment. Reading their website, they recommend the loft do it, which is fine with me. That would add a bit to the cost, but since I don't have time these days, money is the second choice. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:24:54 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:50:00 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message m... On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:20:45 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote: I can't get my main to the top without a winch either, unless there's minimal wind. External halyards and good slide/track mechanism makes most of that go away. Had a 30ft Seafarer with a high aspect sail plan (small main, only 10 ft boom) and external halyards. Never had a problem with the main. Lew I have an in-mast halyard. I need to improve the slide/track situation. Tides Marine has an excellent system for a LOT less moola than Harken. Makes the main feel like it's not even attached to the mast. About $25 a foot, complete, and you can install it yourself. Did you install the receptacle on the sail yourself or did you have the loft do it? Did it all myself. Only problem I had with the installation was that I measured a little too tight for how the track fit into the mast, and had a bit of a struggle getting it all the way up the mast slot. In retrospect, It really doesn't need to be a terribly precise or tight fit at all. I called and spoke to the guy who custom cuts the track a few times, and he was great to deal with. I would recommend that you talk to him on the phone after you take the measurements to tell him what you came up with. He may even have measurements from a sister ship to compare to what you find. They send you a kit with plastic gauges and instructions for the measuring. I think they charge a small fee for the kit, but ceredit it back from your order. If I had to do it over, I would take the measurements and ask them to send a short sample piece first, especially if you play to install it with the mast up. I'm guessing they would probably be willing to do that. They really seem to want happy customers. Sounds like a great company to work with. I've found a few of those out there... actually care about customers or potential customers. My main concern (slight pun intended) is the sail attachment. Reading their website, they recommend the loft do it, which is fine with me. That would add a bit to the cost, but since I don't have time these days, money is the second choice. :-) I didn't find that part of the job difficult at all, and wonder to this day why they recommend havng the loft do that. I snipped off my existing plastic slugs and simply used the remaining nylon web loops that had held them, for the new slides, which mount using a pin with cotter rings at each end. The batten swivels wrere no big deal either. They pretty much covered where the old batten swivels had been, as they are slightly larger. Anyone with half a brain can do it, so you're IN! G I think I think; therefore, I think I am. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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