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Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-F7AA96.09462206062009
@unknown.usenetserver.com:

Looks a lot like my Fairbanks/Morse 45B.... Turns 1200 Rpm with a 3:1
up-speed Belt & Pulley, Off the PTO Clutch, that drives a 3Kw 3600 Rpm
Genend. Runs all day on a Quart of #2 Diesel. Currently on
semi-permanent Loan to a Close Neighbor (close = 10 Sq Miles) and he
runs his whole Outfit off it, during the summers.



http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml

The Other Power boys in the mountains have gensets that will run on about
anything that burns...(c;

http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml

http://www.otherpower.com/listeraxialflux.shtml
The Listeroid model.


Someone with a cruising sailboat they can drag a shaft behind needs to
really take a close look at the Otherpower axial alternators that make
incredible power on a slow turning wind machine....converted to be run off
a screw on a shaft behind their boat...or as a modified wind machine for
boat use. These are just about the simplest electric machines I've ever
encountered....and SO powerful!...KILOWATTS of multiphase AC to rectify
into house battery boilers....

http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_experiments.html
(even the hamster model..(c;])


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Larry

If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?

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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:05:35 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-F7AA96.09462206062009
:

Looks a lot like my Fairbanks/Morse 45B.... Turns 1200 Rpm with a 3:1
up-speed Belt & Pulley, Off the PTO Clutch, that drives a 3Kw 3600 Rpm
Genend. Runs all day on a Quart of #2 Diesel. Currently on
semi-permanent Loan to a Close Neighbor (close = 10 Sq Miles) and he
runs his whole Outfit off it, during the summers.



http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml

The Other Power boys in the mountains have gensets that will run on about
anything that burns...(c;

http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml

http://www.otherpower.com/listeraxialflux.shtml
The Listeroid model.


Someone with a cruising sailboat they can drag a shaft behind needs to
really take a close look at the Otherpower axial alternators that make
incredible power on a slow turning wind machine....converted to be run off
a screw on a shaft behind their boat...or as a modified wind machine for
boat use. These are just about the simplest electric machines I've ever
encountered....and SO powerful!...KILOWATTS of multiphase AC to rectify
into house battery boilers....

http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_experiments.html
(even the hamster model..(c;])

I met a guy that had one of those towed generators. He had towed it
from Australia to Singapore, where I talked to him.

He was not a convert. He said that yes, it did make electricity but he
felt that a wind generator was a much more logical choice as the wind
generator could make electricity when you are anchored and the towed
couldn't. He also reckoned that it didn't make as much electricity as
the wind generator during a voyage as often you are traveling slower
then the wind is blowing.


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:38:26 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:15:02 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

He also reckoned that it didn't make as much electricity as
the wind generator during a voyage as often you are traveling slower
then the wind is blowing.

That makes no sense whatever. In both cases power is rotor area times
speed squared. You can make either rotor whatever size, and either
speed can be whatever.

Casady

I'm not advocating anything. I'm just reporting what a bloke that made
a 3,000 mile voyage with a towed generator told me.


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:15:02 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

He also reckoned that it didn't make as much electricity as
the wind generator during a voyage as often you are traveling slower
then the wind is blowing.

That makes no sense whatever. In both cases power is rotor area times
speed squared. You can make either rotor whatever size, and either
speed can be whatever.

Casady

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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:35:16 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote:


"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a
multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil
starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start
them but I certainly can't.

Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when
you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a
tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops
turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your
fingers are still attached :-)


Sounds as if it needs a heavier flywheel.

Generator is the one application with a really heavy flywheel: the
alternator. Sprint cars have no flywheel at all, but whatever.
Gardner made a 250 hp engine you could start by pulling on the
flywheel. I have started a 109 hp Graymarine with a crank. Anything
can be designed to start easily. Some engines are not, unfortunately

Casady

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On 7-Jun-2009, (Richard Casady) wrote:

That makes no sense whatever. In both cases power is rotor area times
speed squared. You can make either rotor whatever size, and either
speed can be whatever.

Casady

That doesn't sound right to me. The density of the flow mass must make a
difference.

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On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:42:29 GMT, wrote:


On 7-Jun-2009, (Richard Casady) wrote:

That makes no sense whatever. In both cases power is rotor area times
speed squared. You can make either rotor whatever size, and either
speed can be whatever.

Casady

That doesn't sound right to me. The density of the flow mass must make a
difference.


Of course it does. If not you could simply hang an outboard on the
rail and drive off. Never have to put it in the water.
Need and air cooled outboard of course :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)