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A outboard dealer in Singapore furnished the following URL http://www.yanmar.com.au/marine/d_series/dseries.htm Will check further but *heard* there was a China built diesel. Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
: A outboard dealer in Singapore furnished the following URL http://www.yanmar.com.au/marine/d_series/dseries.htm Will check further but *heard* there was a China built diesel. Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) What a shame. I had the opportunity to see one in action, the 27hp. It started easily, used very little fuel, and the boaters that owned it had had it quite a few years with zero downtime. Unfortunately, the dealers had it priced, in the USA, as if it were made of Platinum and built by hand at the Rolls Royce Car Factory. So, THAT much more than lesser outboards....it didn't sell here like they wanted. It's very unfortunate.....great engine for a small sailboat auxiliary. -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
: Will check further but *heard* there was a China built diesel. http://www.zongshenmotor.com/zongshen/www/en/top2.htm While looking up diesel outboards, I stumbled upon: http://duropower.com/item.asp?PID=132&FID=14&level=1 This is my 7.5KW Chinese diesel genset, which, of course, I run on a mixture of 1 gallon mineral spirits to 50 gallons of cleaned used vegetable oil from 3 Chinese restaurants.....free power like my old diesel Mercedes cars and 6.5L diesel stepvan. You can tell it's "heavy duty"....noone in my neighborhood can lift it to steal it....(d^:) Nice price! $1700 for about 7KW of diesel AC power. Laugh at Chinese, but it starts in about 3 seconds after you use the preheater and the only thing I've done to it since I got it was change the oil every 100 hours with Rotella T 15W40. Bad side effect is the neighborhood cats standing around it, sometimes. The Chinese restaurants I get the fuel from cook a lot of fish and the fish oil burning draws the cats like a magnet to a steel hull! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:21:22 +0000, Larry wrote:
Bruce in Bangkok wrote in : Will check further but *heard* there was a China built diesel. http://www.zongshenmotor.com/zongshen/www/en/top2.htm While looking up diesel outboards, I stumbled upon: http://duropower.com/item.asp?PID=132&FID=14&level=1 This is my 7.5KW Chinese diesel genset, which, of course, I run on a mixture of 1 gallon mineral spirits to 50 gallons of cleaned used vegetable oil from 3 Chinese restaurants.....free power like my old diesel Mercedes cars and 6.5L diesel stepvan. You can tell it's "heavy duty"....noone in my neighborhood can lift it to steal it....(d^:) Nice price! $1700 for about 7KW of diesel AC power. Laugh at Chinese, but it starts in about 3 seconds after you use the preheater and the only thing I've done to it since I got it was change the oil every 100 hours with Rotella T 15W40. Bad side effect is the neighborhood cats standing around it, sometimes. The Chinese restaurants I get the fuel from cook a lot of fish and the fish oil burning draws the cats like a magnet to a steel hull! I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start them but I certainly can't. Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your fingers are still attached :-) Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
: I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start them but I certainly can't. Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your fingers are still attached :-) It's electric start. You need the battery to preheat it, anyways. They do have more expensive remote-controlled models and way higher powers. I stopped by "Pep Boys", an auto parts place, to get two windscreen wiper blades for my stepvan truck. Cost me $1600 after I spotted the little diesel gensets. Big mistake going into that store for wipers...(c;] The thing is built like a tank....heavy steel, even the cabinet. Somewhere along the distribution line, it gained a little exhaust stack that sticks up about half a meter above it, probably to keep the cabinet from being discolored by the blowby. Looks like a miniature 18-wheeler truck exhaust pipe...(c;] It's amazingly quiet for a diesel. The cabinet absorbs a lot of the knocking noise and the big muffler works quite well on the exhaust note...even under a good load. 400 pounds of ballast....it won't float away. -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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Larry wrote: Bruce in Bangkok wrote in : I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start them but I certainly can't. Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your fingers are still attached :-) It's electric start. You need the battery to preheat it, anyways. They do have more expensive remote-controlled models and way higher powers. I stopped by "Pep Boys", an auto parts place, to get two windscreen wiper blades for my stepvan truck. Cost me $1600 after I spotted the little diesel gensets. Big mistake going into that store for wipers...(c;] The thing is built like a tank....heavy steel, even the cabinet. Somewhere along the distribution line, it gained a little exhaust stack that sticks up about half a meter above it, probably to keep the cabinet from being discolored by the blowby. Looks like a miniature 18-wheeler truck exhaust pipe...(c;] It's amazingly quiet for a diesel. The cabinet absorbs a lot of the knocking noise and the big muffler works quite well on the exhaust note...even under a good load. 400 pounds of ballast....it won't float away. Question Larry, is it 3600 rpm or 1800 rpm???? -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
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"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message ... I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start them but I certainly can't. Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your fingers are still attached :-) Sounds as if it needs a heavier flywheel. |
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Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-
: Question Larry, is it 3600 rpm or 1800 rpm???? -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply 3600. Runs too smooth for 1800. These guys have it for $1647: http://www.southeastpowerequipment.c.../DP7500EDS-DP- 7500w-Diesel/Detail 6500 watts rated output, 7500 peak. It's only 1 cylinder. Even the 3-cyl 22.5KW beast runs 3600 RPM: http://www.southeastpowerequipment.c...273-Duropower- DP22500EDS-22500w/Detail 10 gallons of diesel fuel (or your homemade) produces 20KW for 8 hours....or 10KW for 12 hours. That's a lot of power! Hell, 20KW should plane a sailboat!....diesel electric! I still say this is the ultimate diesel genset...6KW, 700 RPM engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfR9g...eature=related 24/7 power in Dominican Republic on 50% soybean oil, 50% kerosene....or other suitable oils. You can put it in your will and give it to power your grandchildren, if they survive. So rugged, so slow, few moving parts, zero electrics, no computers. Every 30-40 years, just replace the worn out alternator...(c;] -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:35:16 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message .. . I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start them but I certainly can't. Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your fingers are still attached :-) Sounds as if it needs a heavier flywheel. I wouldn't argue with you. But they are selling them "as is" and apparently people are buying them. the problem is on my end of the equation - I can't figure out how to start it :-) Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Larry wrote: I still say this is the ultimate diesel genset...6KW, 700 RPM engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfR9g...eature=related 24/7 power in Dominican Republic on 50% soybean oil, 50% kerosene....or other suitable oils. You can put it in your will and give it to power your grandchildren, if they survive. So rugged, so slow, few moving parts, zero electrics, no computers. Every 30-40 years, just replace the worn out alternator...(c;] Looks a lot like my Fairbanks/Morse 45B.... Turns 1200 Rpm with a 3:1 up-speed Belt & Pulley, Off the PTO Clutch, that drives a 3Kw 3600 Rpm Genend. Runs all day on a Quart of #2 Diesel. Currently on semi-permanent Loan to a Close Neighbor (close = 10 Sq Miles) and he runs his whole Outfit off it, during the summers. -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
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Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-F7AA96.09462206062009
@unknown.usenetserver.com: Looks a lot like my Fairbanks/Morse 45B.... Turns 1200 Rpm with a 3:1 up-speed Belt & Pulley, Off the PTO Clutch, that drives a 3Kw 3600 Rpm Genend. Runs all day on a Quart of #2 Diesel. Currently on semi-permanent Loan to a Close Neighbor (close = 10 Sq Miles) and he runs his whole Outfit off it, during the summers. http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml The Other Power boys in the mountains have gensets that will run on about anything that burns...(c; http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml http://www.otherpower.com/listeraxialflux.shtml The Listeroid model. Someone with a cruising sailboat they can drag a shaft behind needs to really take a close look at the Otherpower axial alternators that make incredible power on a slow turning wind machine....converted to be run off a screw on a shaft behind their boat...or as a modified wind machine for boat use. These are just about the simplest electric machines I've ever encountered....and SO powerful!...KILOWATTS of multiphase AC to rectify into house battery boilers.... http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_experiments.html (even the hamster model..(c;]) -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:05:35 +0000, Larry wrote:
Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-F7AA96.09462206062009 : Looks a lot like my Fairbanks/Morse 45B.... Turns 1200 Rpm with a 3:1 up-speed Belt & Pulley, Off the PTO Clutch, that drives a 3Kw 3600 Rpm Genend. Runs all day on a Quart of #2 Diesel. Currently on semi-permanent Loan to a Close Neighbor (close = 10 Sq Miles) and he runs his whole Outfit off it, during the summers. http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml The Other Power boys in the mountains have gensets that will run on about anything that burns...(c; http://www.otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml http://www.otherpower.com/listeraxialflux.shtml The Listeroid model. Someone with a cruising sailboat they can drag a shaft behind needs to really take a close look at the Otherpower axial alternators that make incredible power on a slow turning wind machine....converted to be run off a screw on a shaft behind their boat...or as a modified wind machine for boat use. These are just about the simplest electric machines I've ever encountered....and SO powerful!...KILOWATTS of multiphase AC to rectify into house battery boilers.... http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_experiments.html (even the hamster model..(c;]) I met a guy that had one of those towed generators. He had towed it from Australia to Singapore, where I talked to him. He was not a convert. He said that yes, it did make electricity but he felt that a wind generator was a much more logical choice as the wind generator could make electricity when you are anchored and the towed couldn't. He also reckoned that it didn't make as much electricity as the wind generator during a voyage as often you are traveling slower then the wind is blowing. Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:15:02 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: He also reckoned that it didn't make as much electricity as the wind generator during a voyage as often you are traveling slower then the wind is blowing. That makes no sense whatever. In both cases power is rotor area times speed squared. You can make either rotor whatever size, and either speed can be whatever. Casady |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:35:16 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message .. . I assume that is an electric start engine? The Chinese build a multitude of small diesel engines, mainly air cooled with a recoil starters. I assume that as they keep selling them someone can start them but I certainly can't. Hold the compression release and they turn over all right, but when you release it the engine just stops. Being in the middle of a tremendous yank on the starter rope and the damned thing just stops turning is an experience - you have to look to see whether your fingers are still attached :-) Sounds as if it needs a heavier flywheel. Generator is the one application with a really heavy flywheel: the alternator. Sprint cars have no flywheel at all, but whatever. Gardner made a 250 hp engine you could start by pulling on the flywheel. I have started a 109 hp Graymarine with a crank. Anything can be designed to start easily. Some engines are not, unfortunately Casady |
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