"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:49:55 -0400, Marty said:

Calling waterboarding "torture" is definitely not an adequate substitute
for
reasoned discussion. It's simply trying to attach a label in the hope
that
substantive discussion will be foreclosed.

Finally, you come out with a concrete position. Unfortunately most of
the world considers drowning followed by revival, repeat as necessary,
to be torture.

Why do you find that so difficult to grasp?

Unfortunately, you fall into the same trap as Doug. The issue is not
whether
the proper label has been attached to waterboarding. It's whether the use
of
that process is acceptable under some circumstances. Labels do not help in
answering that question.

Those who believe that waterboarding is not torture should be submitted to
it until they change their minds.