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Yeah, I know "plonk"
Marty wrote: wrote: Dave wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:39:24 -0700, said: Kieth, unfortunately, Dave appears to be one of those who believes that the US Constitution should not apply to non citizens, even if they are being incarcerated by the US; while at the same time the US government is trying to impose the same principles espoused in the Constitution, at the point of a gun to very country(s) where said non-US citizens where abducted from... I am certain that I am not the only one who perceives the hypocrisy of this stance. Cheers Martin No, you certainly are not the only one. Bruce made the same observation much earlier in this thread. I am hopeful that we can change this perception - by changing our actions - over the next several years. We'll see. One of the scariest, and most depressing things I've witnessed in this country was not long after 9/11, while working to build a facility to manufacture a new stockpile of smallpox vaccine for the government, was a news program where 2 liberal and 2 conservative national journalists were asked if it was OK to torture suspects *if* it *might* save American lives. All 4 said the equivalent of "hell yes!". I was sickened, saddened, and ashamed that we could, as a nation, be such gutless wimps that any action against the *other* (however defined) person is justifiable if there's even the slightest chance that it *might* save our butts. Pitiful. Keith |
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