"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote

Are things really so emotional, or is it only the denizens of this site
that make it appear so?

Things used to be that emotional. However, years of rule by a party that
made creating such emotionalism and division a cornerstone of its plan for
looting the society has so discredited it that the predominant emotion is
shock and despair. However, you go to the waterfronts and backwoods and you
still find people who believe the earth is flat, God created the earth in 7
days 4000 years ago, and a democratic congress with a razor thin majority
and no ability to override a presidential veto created this mess in just two
years.

Of course, this group has a larger proportion of wacko's than the general
population. Why, we even have people creating sock puppets to accuse
themselves of being child molesters. How much crazier can it get than that?

Stephen Trapani wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:51:36 -0500, Marty wrote:

Jon, I think he must be really great, President for only 40 days and
already decisions made by 10 years of Republican Congresses and 8
years of Republican Presidency are his fault! Now that's talent!

More interesting is how all of these guys got into financial trouble
in only 40 days. That's talent also.

That said, this really isn't the right place.


In order to fervently believe what we want to believe we have to
desperately ignore what we have to ignore in order to think that the
Congress has been controlled by Republicans for the last four years.
Whatever you do, *don't* actually check this easily checked fact
anywhere, like, say, he

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgov...division_2.htm

Instead, use blinding strategies like maybe ridicule this **** out of
this post so you can continue to blame who you've been blaming, instead
of learning anything new. After all, we wouldn't all want to be
supporting a large increase in the same thing we've been doing for the
last four years, would we? That would be insane!

Steph

The problem is that Congress has been ruled by POLITICIANS, whatever
their ilk. People whose only goal is to get reelected. No fish monger
ever cried "Bad fish for sale!"

The problem is the people who perfumed over the stink figuring they were
going to get a piece of the profit.

People vote for who tells them what they want to hear. Forget the 2000
election. Who voted for W in 2004? The People! Idiots.

So don't blame Bush now, and don't blame Obama in 2012. They are merely
characters in a play - speaking their lines - written by "We The People."

Rant off.

Stephen Trapani wrote:


So the fire is the massive deficit and spending of the Republicans who
have been out of power in Congress for years and the now quadrupling of
the deficit and spending, by the Democrats, is the water on the fire? Is
that how your analogy works?



PLEASE!!! Stop making sense. You will give the Believers a headache!!!!

Don't you know the MESSIAH now that He is here in our midst? You must
BELIEVE. No thinking allowed.

On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:24:51 -0500, "Aragorn"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote

Are things really so emotional, or is it only the denizens of this site
that make it appear so?

Things used to be that emotional. However, years of rule by a party that
made creating such emotionalism and division a cornerstone of its plan for
looting the society has so discredited it that the predominant emotion is
shock and despair. However, you go to the waterfronts and backwoods and you
still find people who believe the earth is flat, God created the earth in 7
days 4000 years ago, and a democratic congress with a razor thin majority
and no ability to override a presidential veto created this mess in just two
years.

Of course, this group has a larger proportion of wacko's than the general
population. Why, we even have people creating sock puppets to accuse
themselves of being child molesters. How much crazier can it get than that?

I suspect that one of the "liberals" will spring out of the woodwork
and stamp all over this conversation but before they do;

I have wondered about the "Democrats" shouting at the "Republicans"
about the "Bush" finances when the drive to allow poor people to
borrow money to buy housing seems hardly a "Republican" philosophy,
rather more lie the wild eyed liberal sector of the Democrats.

But then again, "history is written by the winners".


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:18:44 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:51:36 -0500, Marty wrote:

Jon, I think he must be really great, President for only 40 days and
already decisions made by 10 years of Republican Congresses and 8
years of Republican Presidency are his fault! Now that's talent!

More interesting is how all of these guys got into financial trouble
in only 40 days. That's talent also.

That said, this really isn't the right place.


In order to fervently believe what we want to believe we have to
desperately ignore what we have to ignore in order to think that the
Congress has been controlled by Republicans for the last four years.
Whatever you do, *don't* actually check this easily checked fact
anywhere, like, say, he

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgov...division_2.htm

Instead, use blinding strategies like maybe ridicule this **** out of
this post so you can continue to blame who you've been blaming, instead
of learning anything new. After all, we wouldn't all want to be
supporting a large increase in the same thing we've been doing for the
last four years, would we? That would be insane!

Steph

The problem is that Congress has been ruled by POLITICIANS, whatever
their ilk. People whose only goal is to get reelected. No fish monger
ever cried "Bad fish for sale!"

The problem is the people who perfumed over the stink figuring they were
going to get a piece of the profit.

People vote for who tells them what they want to hear. Forget the 2000
election. Who voted for W in 2004? The People! Idiots.

So don't blame Bush now, and don't blame Obama in 2012. They are merely
characters in a play - speaking their lines - written by "We The People."

Rant off.

In fact, while I don't remember exactly what Obama said during the
primary and the campaign the overwhelming recollection I have is that
he intended to "bring the boys home" right now! Of course, once
elected "right now" isn't exactly "this instance" it is "sometime next
year", "the year after", "well, maybe in a while".

He was reported on the news, over here, as saying that he is going to
balance the budget by "cutting government expenditures and taxing rich
people" which seems a little misleading coming, as it did, just after
the reporting that it was "the biggest bail-out in history".

My impression is that Obama, to give him all the credit due was simply
the better "politician". and I suppose deserves to be President.

On the other hand, I have the sneaking suspicion that it may not make
much difference what party is in power as if the boat has a big hole
in it all you can do is bail.

Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:30:13 -0700, slide
wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote:


So the fire is the massive deficit and spending of the Republicans who
have been out of power in Congress for years and the now quadrupling of
the deficit and spending, by the Democrats, is the water on the fire? Is
that how your analogy works?



PLEASE!!! Stop making sense. You will give the Believers a headache!!!!

Don't you know the MESSIAH now that He is here in our midst? You must
BELIEVE. No thinking allowed.


You Sir, are Wrong! You are allowed to think.... But it must be
"right thinking".

Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:49:34 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:


I have wondered about the "Democrats" shouting at the "Republicans"
about the "Bush" finances when the drive to allow poor people to
borrow money to buy housing seems hardly a "Republican" philosophy,
rather more lie the wild eyed liberal sector of the Democrats.

Do you seriously think "poor people" piled up $trillions in debt?
Laughable.
And I can't count the times GWB mentioned "home ownership" as proof
"the fundamentals of the economy are sound."
I really think you're out of touch.
It took both Rep and Dem dickwads to get the economy in this mess.
And the people who voted for them.
What's nice about democracy is "the people" get exactly what they
deserve.
I like it.

--Vic

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:49:34 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

I have wondered about the "Democrats"

Wrong group, unless you mean "the cruising Democrats".

:-)

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:49:34 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:


I have wondered about the "Democrats" shouting at the "Republicans"
about the "Bush" finances when the drive to allow poor people to
borrow money to buy housing seems hardly a "Republican" philosophy,
rather more lie the wild eyed liberal sector of the Democrats.

Do you seriously think "poor people" piled up $trillions in debt?
Laughable.
And I can't count the times GWB mentioned "home ownership" as proof
"the fundamentals of the economy are sound."
I really think you're out of touch.
It took both Rep and Dem dickwads to get the economy in this mess.
And the people who voted for them.
What's nice about democracy is "the people" get exactly what they
deserve.
I like it.

--Vic


I have to agree. There was definitely a "perfect storm" of liberals wanting
home ownership to be expanded and right-wingers wanting little or no
regulation and/or oversight. There was also the conservative element that
is, was, and will always be morally opposed to any gov't involvement in the
financial sector. But, to blame poor people is an easy out, and it's not
even close to the truth.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:30:13 -0700, slide
wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote:


So the fire is the massive deficit and spending of the Republicans who
have been out of power in Congress for years and the now quadrupling of
the deficit and spending, by the Democrats, is the water on the fire? Is
that how your analogy works?



PLEASE!!! Stop making sense. You will give the Believers a headache!!!!

Don't you know the MESSIAH now that He is here in our midst? You must
BELIEVE. No thinking allowed.


You Sir, are Wrong! You are allowed to think.... But it must be
"right thinking".

Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


That would be "left thinking" duhh... lol

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com