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Glenn Ashmore June 29th 04 05:24 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect. Up until
now, Cuban Americans could go to Cuba once a year, carry anything that
they could pack in 140 lbs of luggage and spend $167/day. This is a
right that no other American citizen has had for 40 years. Effective
tomorrow Cuban Americans can only go once every 3 years, can carry no
more than 44 pounds of luggage and can spend only $50 a day.

Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.

--
Glenn Ashmore

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Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam June 30th 04 01:19 AM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:58 -0400, something compelled Glenn
Ashmore , to say:

Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect.


I think travel restrictions are wrong. What business is it of my
government where I may or may not travel? I can certainly see
them saying something like, "We recommend you stay away from
foo, and if you go there and get into trouble, you're on your
own," but to forbid me from going somewhere?

That's just wrong.

Matt Kocch June 30th 04 02:42 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
Agreed. Land of the free indeed.

matt
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:58 -0400, something compelled Glenn
Ashmore , to say:

Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect.


I think travel restrictions are wrong. What business is it of my
government where I may or may not travel? I can certainly see
them saying something like, "We recommend you stay away from
foo, and if you go there and get into trouble, you're on your
own," but to forbid me from going somewhere?

That's just wrong.




Harry Krause June 30th 04 07:16 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
Matt Kocch wrote:

Agreed. Land of the free indeed.

matt
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:58 -0400, something compelled Glenn
Ashmore , to say:

Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect.


I think travel restrictions are wrong. What business is it of my
government where I may or may not travel? I can certainly see
them saying something like, "We recommend you stay away from
foo, and if you go there and get into trouble, you're on your
own," but to forbid me from going somewhere?

That's just wrong.




Just remember that when you head to the polls this fall.

Don W June 30th 04 08:49 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 


Matt Kocch wrote:


Agreed. Land of the free indeed.

matt
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect.

I think travel restrictions are wrong. What business is it of my
government where I may or may not travel? I can certainly see
them saying something like, "We recommend you stay away from
foo, and if you go there and get into trouble, you're on your
own," but to forbid me from going somewhere?

That's just wrong.


Just remember that when you head to the polls this fall.


Oh yeah, because the other party will do something differently. Tell me how
going to the polls will solve this.


Well, lets see... for President you have your choice of a Republican baby-boomer with a Yale
education who is a member of the Yale "Skull & Bones" society, or a Democrat baby-boomer with a Yale
education who is a member of the Yale "Skull & Bones" society. The Republican's father was a
Senator, former head of the CIA, and former President, while the Democrat's father was just a diplomat.

Seriously people! This is why we need a true multi-party system in the USA, with multi being more
than two.

At least you gotta admire GWB's dad for skydiving on his 80th birthday.

soapbox mode off

PS - I agree completely that it isn't right for the US govt to restrict citizens travel rights, no
matter the issue at stake. Write your senator and congressmen.

Later,

Don W.


Don W June 30th 04 08:50 PM

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Well... not going to the polls will certainly not affect it.


Bill wrote:


Oh yeah, because the other party will do something differently. Tell me how
going to the polls will solve this.




Bill June 30th 04 08:51 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Matt Kocch wrote:

Agreed. Land of the free indeed.

matt
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:58 -0400, something compelled Glenn
Ashmore , to say:

Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect.

I think travel restrictions are wrong. What business is it of my
government where I may or may not travel? I can certainly see
them saying something like, "We recommend you stay away from
foo, and if you go there and get into trouble, you're on your
own," but to forbid me from going somewhere?

That's just wrong.




Just remember that when you head to the polls this fall.


Oh yeah, because the other party will do something differently. Tell me how
going to the polls will solve this.



felton June 30th 04 09:25 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:58 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect. Up until
now, Cuban Americans could go to Cuba once a year, carry anything that
they could pack in 140 lbs of luggage and spend $167/day. This is a
right that no other American citizen has had for 40 years. Effective
tomorrow Cuban Americans can only go once every 3 years, can carry no
more than 44 pounds of luggage and can spend only $50 a day.

Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.


You hit that one dead center, Glenn. If the restrictions make sense
for me, they should apply to them as well. Personally I think the
whole thing is misguided and pointless, but it does serve the purpose
of transferring many dollars into the hands of the politicians from
the hardline Cuban exiles. Castro is probably going to outlive most
of his enemies, anyway:)

MMC June 30th 04 09:45 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
The new regulations are only going to hurt the poor people in Cuba. As
always, those in power have everything they want.
I would hope that after a few decades of embargo "experimentation" on Cuba,
we'd figure out it's not going to work.
We're all hugs and kisses with Russia and China, but have a hard on for
Cuba? Come on!
MMC
"felton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:58 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Tomorrow the new restrictions on travel to Cuba take effect. Up until
now, Cuban Americans could go to Cuba once a year, carry anything that
they could pack in 140 lbs of luggage and spend $167/day. This is a
right that no other American citizen has had for 40 years. Effective
tomorrow Cuban Americans can only go once every 3 years, can carry no
more than 44 pounds of luggage and can spend only $50 a day.

Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.


You hit that one dead center, Glenn. If the restrictions make sense
for me, they should apply to them as well. Personally I think the
whole thing is misguided and pointless, but it does serve the purpose
of transferring many dollars into the hands of the politicians from
the hardline Cuban exiles. Castro is probably going to outlive most
of his enemies, anyway:)




Den73740 June 30th 04 10:57 PM

A taste of their own Frijoles
 
Subject: A taste of their own Frijoles
From: Glenn Ashmore


Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.


Let me get this straight, they came here to escape political oppression from a
communist dictator. He lets them return to cuba and then fly back to the US
whenever they choose. THEY GO TO CUBA ONCE A YEAR FOR VACATION, HOW OPPRESIVE
CAN IT BE?

Our president has said they can only go once every 3 years instead of every
year. They are very upset at our president for not letting them go back to the
cuba, that they "escaped" from because of political persecution.

These immigrants do not want US Citizens to be allowed to go to Cuba at all.
They were upset when travel restrictions were relaxed for US citizens and let
the president know it. He agreed and tightened the restrictions, they got
upset because it applied to cubans as well.

They think they are entitled to special treatment. Vote seeking politicians
encourage this mindset. Its good to see them treated almost like US citizens.
When they get fined $10k for going down and spending money they will find out
what its like to be a real US citizen.

Dennis


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