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Oh, the poor, poor people of Cuba. Perhaps they should take a lesson from
Castro and revolt.

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Subject: A taste of their own Frijoles
From: Glenn Ashmore

Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.


You have to wonder about the Bush administration. Can they do anything
right? To **** off all the Cubans in Florida in an election year? Do they
seriously think restricting travel like this is going to cause the fall of
Castro and his government? They really should have the air quality in the
White House checked. Something is making them think they can just have it
their way.

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:49:04 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
wrote:

Subject: A taste of their own Frijoles
From: Glenn Ashmore

Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.


You have to wonder about the Bush administration. Can they do anything
right? To **** off all the Cubans in Florida in an election year? Do they
seriously think restricting travel like this is going to cause the fall of
Castro and his government? They really should have the air quality in the
White House checked. Something is making them think they can just have it
their way.

They probably only ****ed off about half of the Cuban "exile"
community. I heard an interesting news piece on Cuban American
attitudes on this and related issues. There is a fairly sharp divide
based on age and date of arrival. Later arrivals and those younger in
age are much more moderate in their views. Moderation of views is not
a winning formula in South Florida, though:) I was visiting with some
Cuban Americans this past weekend and they seemed all for it, but I
would classify them as exceptions to the rule as they were from a
family that would not be welcome back in Cuba regardless of the laws.

The real question is does this administration realize how much they
have antagonized the sailing community?:)

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felton wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:49:04 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
...snip...

The real question is does this administration realize how much they
have antagonized the sailing community?:)

Is there a sailing community? Politically, I mean. I think sailors tend
to vote their 'real life' issues. The number of voters that cruise full
time and would vote "sailing issures" are probably rather small,
politically speaking.

Just a fact of life, even if the cruising life is the best life of all....

Tom
of the Swee****er Sea

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:37:32 -0500, Tom Shilson
wrote:

felton wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:49:04 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
...snip...

The real question is does this administration realize how much they
have antagonized the sailing community?:)

Is there a sailing community? Politically, I mean. I think sailors tend
to vote their 'real life' issues. The number of voters that cruise full
time and would vote "sailing issures" are probably rather small,
politically speaking.

Just a fact of life, even if the cruising life is the best life of all....


Well, it is probably not all that large or influential, but I was in
Key West a couple of weeks ago and there was more than a little
grumbling about the increased enforcement of the laws against sailors.
Mainly I was just trying to keep the post semi-sailing relatated:)
Cruising World did have some sort of cover story on the Cuba crackdown
in the last month or two, so it is on the minds of some. I would like
to visit Cuba myself, but not enough to risk a felony conviction and a
$50,000 fine. I suspect that things will change after the November
election, regardless of who wins. This is election year politics.

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:01:19 GMT, "Garuda" wrote:

Oh, the poor, poor people of Cuba. Perhaps they should take a lesson from
Castro and revolt.

That might be the intent...squeeze from the inside.

If there was an open border, a free exchange, there would be less
pressure internally, and the entire Castro Revolution would most
likely lead to another problem for the US...."What do we say to the
kids?"

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"Den73740" wrote

Let me get this straight, they came here to escape political oppression
from a
communist dictator. He lets them return to cuba and then fly back to the
US
whenever they choose. THEY GO TO CUBA ONCE A YEAR FOR VACATION, HOW
OPPRESIVE
CAN IT BE?

Well, if you were/are an MD you can make a million$$/year in the USA or a
few thou a year in socialist Cuba. Other examples abound. Hot lick: make
big bux here then vacation there - right?

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Yeah, remember they tried that one time and were given the high hard one by
CIA. The Shiite tried it too. So did the Kurds. And we let them all down.
Ease travel to all US citizens and Fidel and co will be sitting in the
corner wondering what hit them. The only reasons for the continued embargo
is strong lobbying by FL Cubans, the voting block, and the complete lack of
interest on the part of the rest of the US.
MMC
"Garuda" wrote in message
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Oh, the poor, poor people of Cuba. Perhaps they should take a lesson from
Castro and revolt.

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MMC wrote:
Yeah, remember they tried that one time and were given the high hard one by
CIA. The Shiite tried it too. So did the Kurds. And we let them all down.
Ease travel to all US citizens and Fidel and co will be sitting in the
corner wondering what hit them. The only reasons for the continued embargo
is strong lobbying by FL Cubans, the voting block, and the complete lack of
interest on the part of the rest of the US.

When you sit down and compare the past 50 years, Coca-Cola, Levi's and
Rock and Roll have been more effective at bringing down totalitarian
regimes than blockades and embargoes. The embargo gives Castro a
scapegoat. Interaction breeds decent and gives the decenters courage to
act. US culture is the most dangerous weapon on the planet.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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Very well put Glen.
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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MMC wrote:
Yeah, remember they tried that one time and were given the high hard one
by
CIA. The Shiite tried it too. So did the Kurds. And we let them all
down.
Ease travel to all US citizens and Fidel and co will be sitting in the
corner wondering what hit them. The only reasons for the continued
embargo
is strong lobbying by FL Cubans, the voting block, and the complete lack
of
interest on the part of the rest of the US.

When you sit down and compare the past 50 years, Coca-Cola, Levi's and
Rock and Roll have been more effective at bringing down totalitarian
regimes than blockades and embargoes. The embargo gives Castro a
scapegoat. Interaction breeds decent and gives the decenters courage to
act. US culture is the most dangerous weapon on the planet.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com