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Subject: A taste of their own Frijoles
From: Glenn Ashmore


Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.


Let me get this straight, they came here to escape political oppression from a
communist dictator. He lets them return to cuba and then fly back to the US
whenever they choose. THEY GO TO CUBA ONCE A YEAR FOR VACATION, HOW OPPRESIVE
CAN IT BE?

Our president has said they can only go once every 3 years instead of every
year. They are very upset at our president for not letting them go back to the
cuba, that they "escaped" from because of political persecution.

These immigrants do not want US Citizens to be allowed to go to Cuba at all.
They were upset when travel restrictions were relaxed for US citizens and let
the president know it. He agreed and tightened the restrictions, they got
upset because it applied to cubans as well.

They think they are entitled to special treatment. Vote seeking politicians
encourage this mindset. Its good to see them treated almost like US citizens.
When they get fined $10k for going down and spending money they will find out
what its like to be a real US citizen.

Dennis
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Subject: A taste of their own Frijoles
From: Glenn Ashmore


Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.



You have to wonder about the Bush administration. Can they do anything
right? To **** off all the Cubans in Florida in an election year? Do they
seriously think restricting travel like this is going to cause the fall of
Castro and his government? They really should have the air quality in the
White House checked. Something is making them think they can just have it
their way.


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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:49:04 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
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Subject: A taste of their own Frijoles
From: Glenn Ashmore


Now the South Florida Cubans are screaming that they are being treated
unfairly and that the new restrictions are "unconstitutional".

My heart bleeds. At least now they get a taste of what they have
inflicted on the rest of us.



You have to wonder about the Bush administration. Can they do anything
right? To **** off all the Cubans in Florida in an election year? Do they
seriously think restricting travel like this is going to cause the fall of
Castro and his government? They really should have the air quality in the
White House checked. Something is making them think they can just have it
their way.


They probably only ****ed off about half of the Cuban "exile"
community. I heard an interesting news piece on Cuban American
attitudes on this and related issues. There is a fairly sharp divide
based on age and date of arrival. Later arrivals and those younger in
age are much more moderate in their views. Moderation of views is not
a winning formula in South Florida, though I was visiting with some
Cuban Americans this past weekend and they seemed all for it, but I
would classify them as exceptions to the rule as they were from a
family that would not be welcome back in Cuba regardless of the laws.

The real question is does this administration realize how much they
have antagonized the sailing community?

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felton wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:49:04 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"

...snip...

The real question is does this administration realize how much they
have antagonized the sailing community?

Is there a sailing community? Politically, I mean. I think sailors tend
to vote their 'real life' issues. The number of voters that cruise full
time and would vote "sailing issures" are probably rather small,
politically speaking.

Just a fact of life, even if the cruising life is the best life of all....

Tom
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:37:32 -0500, Tom Shilson
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felton wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:49:04 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"

...snip...

The real question is does this administration realize how much they
have antagonized the sailing community?

Is there a sailing community? Politically, I mean. I think sailors tend
to vote their 'real life' issues. The number of voters that cruise full
time and would vote "sailing issures" are probably rather small,
politically speaking.

Just a fact of life, even if the cruising life is the best life of all....


Well, it is probably not all that large or influential, but I was in
Key West a couple of weeks ago and there was more than a little
grumbling about the increased enforcement of the laws against sailors.
Mainly I was just trying to keep the post semi-sailing relatated
Cruising World did have some sort of cover story on the Cuba crackdown
in the last month or two, so it is on the minds of some. I would like
to visit Cuba myself, but not enough to risk a felony conviction and a
$50,000 fine. I suspect that things will change after the November
election, regardless of who wins. This is election year politics.


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I suspect that things will change after the November
election, regardless of who wins. This is election year politics.


I do not expect loosening of anything if Bush wins re-election. That 2nd
term he will not be restrained by any thought of needing to win another
election and will ram through laws and regulations that make the current
crop look like school house rules. It will be plunder and oppression on
a grand scale.

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"Den73740" wrote

Let me get this straight, they came here to escape political oppression

from a
communist dictator. He lets them return to cuba and then fly back to the

US
whenever they choose. THEY GO TO CUBA ONCE A YEAR FOR VACATION, HOW

OPPRESIVE
CAN IT BE?


Well, if you were/are an MD you can make a million$$/year in the USA or a
few thou a year in socialist Cuba. Other examples abound. Hot lick: make
big bux here then vacation there - right?


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