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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4639522.story It's on my list... that would be great news. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4639522.story It's on my list... that would be great news. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Definitely a step in the right direction. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4639522.story Should have been lifted years ago when the Cold War supposedly ended...Great news... |
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"katy" wrote in message . com... Wayne.B wrote: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4639522.story Should have been lifted years ago when the Cold War supposedly ended...Great news... Ya, the biggest communist country on the face of the Earth enjoys "Most Favored Nation" status with the US, while a little podunk two-bit communist country like Cuba is supposedly a "threat" to American Security. Hogwash. Castro merely ****ed-off US corporations and Big Money by nationalizing American businesses in Cuba and getting rid of their favorite son, Batista -- a bonafide son-of-a-bitch if ever there has been one. |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"katy" wrote in message . com... Wayne.B wrote: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4639522.story Should have been lifted years ago when the Cold War supposedly ended...Great news... Ya, the biggest communist country on the face of the Earth enjoys "Most Favored Nation" status with the US, while a little podunk two-bit communist country like Cuba is supposedly a "threat" to American Security. Hogwash. Castro merely ****ed-off US corporations and Big Money by nationalizing American businesses in Cuba and getting rid of their favorite son, Batista -- a bonafide son-of-a-bitch if ever there has been one. Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... |
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"katy" wrote in message . com... KLC Lewis wrote: "katy" wrote in message . com... Wayne.B wrote: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4639522.story Should have been lifted years ago when the Cold War supposedly ended...Great news... Ya, the biggest communist country on the face of the Earth enjoys "Most Favored Nation" status with the US, while a little podunk two-bit communist country like Cuba is supposedly a "threat" to American Security. Hogwash. Castro merely ****ed-off US corporations and Big Money by nationalizing American businesses in Cuba and getting rid of their favorite son, Batista -- a bonafide son-of-a-bitch if ever there has been one. Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Based on what? One sentence in the CBO report? Still waiting for you to give us suggestions about how to get out of the financial mess caused by Bushco. So far, all I've heard from you is how terrible the liberals are doing or will do. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Based on what? One sentence in the CBO report? Still waiting for you to give us suggestions about how to get out of the financial mess caused by Bushco. So far, all I've heard from you is how terrible the liberals are doing or will do. One thing they should do is stop trying to free up more credit...people cannot borrow when they have no money to repay..that's what got us into this in the first place..people borrowing what they never could or intended to repay...extending more credit is certainly no answer... |
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katy wrote:
Capt. JG wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Based on what? One sentence in the CBO report? Still waiting for you to give us suggestions about how to get out of the financial mess caused by Bushco. So far, all I've heard from you is how terrible the liberals are doing or will do. One thing they should do is stop trying to free up more credit...people cannot borrow when they have no money to repay..that's what got us into this in the first place..people borrowing what they never could or intended to repay...extending more credit is certainly no answer... I certainly agree with you on this one, katy, But "when your only tool is a hammer, all problems look like nails" seems to apply in spades... Richard |
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"katy" wrote in message
. com... Capt. JG wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Based on what? One sentence in the CBO report? Still waiting for you to give us suggestions about how to get out of the financial mess caused by Bushco. So far, all I've heard from you is how terrible the liberals are doing or will do. One thing they should do is stop trying to free up more credit...people cannot borrow when they have no money to repay..that's what got us into this in the first place..people borrowing what they never could or intended to repay...extending more credit is certainly no answer... No one wants people borrowing money they can't repay, and it was certainly part (but not all) of the problem. Another part of the problem was bundling these unstable loans and reselling them over and over. That magnified the problem. There was little or no regulation, and despite Dave's assertions to the contrary, a big part of that problem was lack of regulation and/or lack of enforcement (e.g., Madoff is a great example of the latter). I think you believe that the relm of "freeing up credit" is reserved for individual consumers, especially those who don't have money. This is not the case. It's a much bigger problem for those who have decent credit and want to buy a car, say from GM or from the RV company in the town Obama visited recently, and it's even a bigger problem for small businesses who can't get the credit they need to run their business. Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... No one wants people borrowing money they can't repay, and it was certainly part (but not all) of the problem. Another part of the problem was bundling these unstable loans and reselling them over and over. That magnified the problem. There was little or no regulation, and despite Dave's assertions to the contrary, a big part of that problem was lack of regulation and/or lack of enforcement (e.g., Madoff is a great example of the latter). I think you believe that the relm of "freeing up credit" is reserved for individual consumers, especially those who don't have money. This is not the case. It's a much bigger problem for those who have decent credit and want to buy a car, say from GM or from the RV company in the town Obama visited recently, and it's even a bigger problem for small businesses who can't get the credit they need to run their business. Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com We used to have an "export based" economy, with high tariffs for imports. We actually created things of value which we bought ourselves and/or exported to other countries, and imported mostly luxury items that we could easily do without. We then moved to an "import based" economy with low tariffs (if any) for imports, little domestic production of "consumer" (god, how I hate that term) products, and little to export except for raw materials. Finally, we moved to a "debt based" economy with nothing of value to export except our trash, in which we all decided we could get rich selling each other stocks, oil futures contracts and houses. When the stocks tanked, and the houses weren't selling, we decided to sell insurance-that-really-wasn't called "Credit Default Swaps," totally unregulated of course, in which a mortgage worth $200,000 could be sliced-up into chunks and resold in packages at 30 times its actual value, but with less than the actual mortgage value backing it up Meanwhile, the folks buying and selling oil futures contracts drove the price of gasoline up to $4.50 a gallon or so, even while supply was increasing and demand was decreasing. As with all such ponzi schemes, this too came crashing down. And people wonder what the blazes is wrong with our economy. "Let's borrow our way to prosperity!" |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... It's on my list... that would be great news. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com The ban on gays would remain in place. Bummer for you. -- Gregory Hall |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:30:00 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. I deal with banks and banking regulators all day long, Jon. That's simply untrue. A major problem is fear on the part of both the regulators and the regulated. The banking regulators are deathly afraid that if they let banks make too many loans in relation to their capital base, and the banks later go south, the regulators will be criticized. So they pressure banks to write down the value of their existing loans. That hits the bank's regulatory capital, reducing the amount of new money the banks can legally lend. The bankers are afraid the regulators are going to require them to write down their existing loans further. If that happens, and the banks have been lending more money, they will be out of compliance with regulatory capital requirements, subjecting the banks to regulatory orders, limits on their activities, and perhaps even monetary penalties on the directors and management. So the bankers reduce the amount of loans they are making to create a cushion in case the regulators go crazy. The underlying problem is that nobody really knows what the value of existing outstanding loans really is. So, as you said, "bankers reduce the amount of loans they are making...." And, as I said, they don't want to make loans. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:45:57 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: financial mess caused by Bushco You just keep chanting that mantra, Jon. It'll make you feel better when the rest of the folks catch on to what actually happened. Actually, there is plenty of blame to spread all around on all sides of the political spectrum. I'd love to see a national push to "dump the incumbent" campaign. Our political system was never intended as a lifelong money teat for a few individuals and look where it's gotten us! G |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:45:57 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: financial mess caused by Bushco You just keep chanting that mantra, Jon. It'll make you feel better when the rest of the folks catch on to what actually happened. You just keep denying reality. Which "rest of folks"? The unemployed ones? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Gordon" wrote in message
m... Dave wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:45:57 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: financial mess caused by Bushco You just keep chanting that mantra, Jon. It'll make you feel better when the rest of the folks catch on to what actually happened. Actually, there is plenty of blame to spread all around on all sides of the political spectrum. I'd love to see a national push to "dump the incumbent" campaign. Our political system was never intended as a lifelong money teat for a few individuals and look where it's gotten us! G Agreed... there's plenty of blame to go around. Dave is unwilling to blame Bush for any of it. Butter wouldn't melt in Bush's mouth. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions.. snipped. I think you believe that the relm of "freeing up credit" is reserved for individual consumers, especially those who don't have money. This is not the case. It's a much bigger problem for those who have decent credit and want to buy a car, say from GM or from the RV company in the town Obama visited recently, and it's even a bigger problem for small businesses who can't get the credit they need to run their business. Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. I think that the automobile industry is a special case. Most people need a loan to buy a new car and most people also have a perfectly serviceable older car which they can go on running without further borrowing until things settle down a bit and they are reasonably sure that next year they will still have a job. So my guess is that even if the banks loosen up on loans the car industry is in for a thin time and this applies to all car manufacturing countries not just USA.. |
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"Edgar" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions.. snipped. I think you believe that the relm of "freeing up credit" is reserved for individual consumers, especially those who don't have money. This is not the case. It's a much bigger problem for those who have decent credit and want to buy a car, say from GM or from the RV company in the town Obama visited recently, and it's even a bigger problem for small businesses who can't get the credit they need to run their business. Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. I think that the automobile industry is a special case. Most people need a loan to buy a new car and most people also have a perfectly serviceable older car which they can go on running without further borrowing until things settle down a bit and they are reasonably sure that next year they will still have a job. So my guess is that even if the banks loosen up on loans the car industry is in for a thin time and this applies to all car manufacturing countries not just USA.. And, would anyone really want to buy a car from a company that might just go out of business.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:21:23 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: Dave" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:45:57 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: financial mess caused by Bushco You just keep chanting that mantra, Jon. It'll make you feel better when the rest of the folks catch on to what actually happened. You just keep denying reality. Which "rest of folks"? I have every confidence you'll be the last to catch on. I would be after you on that... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:26:42 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: Dave" wrote in message m... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:45:57 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: financial mess caused by Bushco You just keep chanting that mantra, Jon. It'll make you feel better when the rest of the folks catch on to what actually happened. You just keep denying reality. Which "rest of folks"? I have every confidence you'll be the last to catch on. I would be after you on that... That's implicit in your being the last, is it not? I would defintely be the last to understand obstructionism such as yours. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:00:49 +0000, Gordon said: I'd love to see a national push to "dump the incumbent" campaign. Chuck Schumer and Barney Frank ought to be first in line to walk the plank. What about the 10 years or so that the Republicans controlled both houses? They controlled the Committees, the Bills, the agenda,,, not Chuck and Barney.... Cheers Martin |
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"Marty" wrote in message
... Dave wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin Unfortunately (for Republicans) Obama has ruled out nationalizing the banks. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin Unfortunately (for Republicans) Obama has ruled out nationalizing the banks. You trade loans for shares, or any form of security, you own a piece. If you are Government, then it looks like socialism. Walks like duck, ..... Cheers Martin |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin Only their debt was nationalized. Their profits are still in the hands in our pockets. |
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Capt. JG wrote:
I think you believe that the relm of "freeing up credit" is reserved for individual consumers, especially those who don't have money. This is not the case. It's a much bigger problem for those who have decent credit and want to buy a car, say from GM or from the RV company in the town Obama visited recently, and it's even a bigger problem for small businesses who can't get the credit they need to run their business. Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. Odd...in my exoerienbce, if you have a decent credit rating there us noo problem whatsoever finding someone to extend you credit at a decnet rate...we have multitudinous junk mail offering us low interest loans all the time and wanting us ti take out a mortgage on our house to enable us to do whatever...and we are by no means well off...credit, IMO, has been too easy to obtain...I cannot believe the amounts that are allowed per income on mortgagges..the rule of thimb when we were young and starting out was that yout mortgage payment should be no larger than one weeks pay or 2X your total income minus exoenses...yet many out there with 35K incomes have 200K mortgages..and it is no wonder they can;t foot the bills and are living hand to mouth..we had to rent befoe we coukd afford a house and we had to have an adequate downoayment and the c losing costs to proceed..these things are oftentimes waived nowadays...people want too much too fast and they are not willing to wait...and that's greed...and greed always gets you in the end... |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin Only their debt was nationalized. Their profits are still in the hands in our pockets. I don't think so, they are loans, with interest, which means you, the taxpayer gets some of the profit. You now own, through your government 80% of AIG,,, the Government is now beginning to dictate to banks, loan companies and vehicle manufactures terms of operation,,,, yup, they are in effect nationalized. Cheers Martin |
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"katy" wrote in message
. com... Capt. JG wrote: I think you believe that the relm of "freeing up credit" is reserved for individual consumers, especially those who don't have money. This is not the case. It's a much bigger problem for those who have decent credit and want to buy a car, say from GM or from the RV company in the town Obama visited recently, and it's even a bigger problem for small businesses who can't get the credit they need to run their business. Banks don't want to make loans... to anyone. This is a huge part of the problem. Odd...in my exoerienbce, if you have a decent credit rating there us noo problem whatsoever finding someone to extend you credit at a decnet rate...we have multitudinous junk mail offering us low interest loans all the time and wanting us ti take out a mortgage on our house to enable us to do whatever...and we are by no means well off...credit, IMO, has been too easy to obtain...I cannot believe the amounts that are allowed per income on mortgagges..the rule of thimb when we were young and starting out was that yout mortgage payment should be no larger than one weeks pay or 2X your total income minus exoenses...yet many out there with 35K incomes have 200K mortgages..and it is no wonder they can;t foot the bills and are living hand to mouth..we had to rent befoe we coukd afford a house and we had to have an adequate downoayment and the c losing costs to proceed..these things are oftentimes waived nowadays...people want too much too fast and they are not willing to wait...and that's greed...and greed always gets you in the end... I think that these days "decent" is the minimum, as it should be of course. Part of the problem was greed on the part of the lenders. Sure, there are, will, and will be regular folks who want more than they can afford, but there are also those out there who take advantage of people less sophisticated than you and I... predatory lenders. As many have said, there's lots of blame to go around. And, I should add that as far as getting credit goes, it's a much bigger problem for the small and not so small businesses. That's gotta change or there'll be even more unemployment, which in combination has a downward spiral effect. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Marty" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Marty" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Maybe we should take a lesson and nationalize all the foreign interests in hte USA.... Ya, now there's an idea. :-) If Nancy and Harry get their way, foreign interests will be the least of the batches of businesses to be taken over and run by the geniuses in guvmint. Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin Unfortunately (for Republicans) Obama has ruled out nationalizing the banks. You trade loans for shares, or any form of security, you own a piece. If you are Government, then it looks like socialism. Walks like duck, ..... Cheers Martin Some believe that we have always been a socialistic society. I don't disagree with that. It's a matter of degree and the complications involved in nationalizing the banking system in the US would be staggering. err.. quack... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:51:23 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said: Hasn't this already started with domestic interests? You know, AIG a couple of banks, some motor car companies....? Cheers Martin Only their debt was nationalized. Wrong! Well you must be right because you say I'm wrong. Oh, wait a minute... Wrong! Gee, what a great argument that was. Thanks for teaching it to me. |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:08:15 -0500, Marty said: I don't think so, they are loans, with interest, which means you, the taxpayer gets some of the profit. You now own, through your government 80% of AIG,,, the Government is now beginning to dictate to banks, loan companies and vehicle manufactures terms of operation,,,, yup, they are in effect nationalized. You also have to consider the equity piece the guvmint is taking, including the convertible preferred stock and warrants. The real issue is not the loan provisions, but what the guvmint will do with the equity. If they were to spin it out to taxpayers pro rata it would be one thing. If there were to hold onto it longer term it would be different. Now I know the proverbial excrement has truly hit the fan, that's twice in less than than seven days that Dave and I agree on something.... gn Cheers Martin |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:25:21 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: So, still waiting for something besides bs... still waiting for a solution. Neither I nor anyone else has a workable comprehensive solution. I do have some ideas for dealing with the part I'm familiar with--the toxic bank assets. I think what's needed in that regard is some creative use of Congress's power to prescribe bankruptcy laws, thinking a bit outside the box. The proposals to have bankruptcy judges rewrite individual mortgages is just plain silly. But the bankruptcy laws could be used to trump some of the Constitutional limits on rewriting the contracts of institutions and others holding structured investment vehicles. The process would involve what might be called "destructured finance"--using the bankruptcy laws to unwind the structured finance vehicles that the investment bankers and lawyers built on the basis of a faulty economic model, and getting rid of the various "tranches" of each trust so as to eliminate the conflicts inherent in the way those vehicles are set up. Then bring in the workout specialist to restructure the underlying mortgages without the conflict between former holders of the various tranches. The result should be to bring some certainty to the value of these vehicles and their underlying mortgages. Interesting suggestion. If you're not too proud, you should send it to them. You never know. You could end up on National TV next to Joe-the-non-Plumber. Seriously though, you should send it along. Given that no one has a comprehensive solution, then it seems to me that trying things that might work, piecemeal if necessary is the only rational approach vs. doing nothing. I believe that's what's going to happen. Why would rewriting mortgages to something a bit more same be silly? In some cases it wouldn't make sense, in others it might. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Dave wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:19:10 -0500, Martin Baxter said: Now I know the proverbial excrement has truly hit the fan, that's twice in less than than seven days that Dave and I agree on something.... gn You must be learning g. Hmmm, could be, or the ginko biloba you've been taking is starting to work. g Cheers Martin |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:34 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: Interesting suggestion. If you're not too proud, you should send it to them. You never know. You could end up on National TV next to Joe-the-non-Plumber. Not enough political appeal in my suggestions I fear. One of the other things that needs to be done is to jettison some of the career regulators who seem to think their job is to go out and do all manner of good deeds for "consumers" instead of focusing on the financial health of the institutions they're supposed to be regulating. Sheila Bair and Julie Williams come immediately to mind. Not familar with these people... sure... financial health is important, but it's not mutually exclusive with doing what's right for consumers. I better stop. We're getting close to consensus. lol -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:48:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: One of the other things that needs to be done is to jettison some of the career regulators who seem to think their job is to go out and do all manner of good deeds for "consumers" instead of focusing on the financial health of the institutions they're supposed to be regulating. Sheila Bair and Julie Williams come immediately to mind. Not familar with these people. Sheila Bair engineered the intended takeover of Wachovia by Citibank for peanuts plus government assistance. A week later, before contracts could be prepared, BOA came in and offered far more without government assistance, and bought the bank. Julie Williams is General Counsel, and from time to time acting head, of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the agency that regulates nationally chartered banks. She has for several years been pushing the idea that the OCC's job is to cut off telemarketers, online pharmacies and companies that sell tobacco products over the internet from access to the banking system, and generally to do good deeds for consumers. She would be better advised to have her examiners focusing on their banks' assets. Interesting... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:36:26 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Dave" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:48:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: One of the other things that needs to be done is to jettison some of the career regulators who seem to think their job is to go out and do all manner of good deeds for "consumers" instead of focusing on the financial health of the institutions they're supposed to be regulating. Sheila Bair and Julie Williams come immediately to mind. Not familar with these people. Sheila Bair engineered the intended takeover of Wachovia by Citibank for peanuts plus government assistance. A week later, before contracts could be prepared, BOA came in and offered far more without government assistance, and bought the bank. Julie Williams is General Counsel, and from time to time acting head, of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the agency that regulates nationally chartered banks. She has for several years been pushing the idea that the OCC's job is to cut off telemarketers, online pharmacies and companies that sell tobacco products over the internet from access to the banking system, and generally to do good deeds for consumers. She would be better advised to have her examiners focusing on their banks' assets. Interesting... You are too easily lead - or mislead. |
Travel Restrictions to Cuba May be Dropped
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... On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:36:26 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:48:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: One of the other things that needs to be done is to jettison some of the career regulators who seem to think their job is to go out and do all manner of good deeds for "consumers" instead of focusing on the financial health of the institutions they're supposed to be regulating. Sheila Bair and Julie Williams come immediately to mind. Not familar with these people. Sheila Bair engineered the intended takeover of Wachovia by Citibank for peanuts plus government assistance. A week later, before contracts could be prepared, BOA came in and offered far more without government assistance, and bought the bank. Julie Williams is General Counsel, and from time to time acting head, of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the agency that regulates nationally chartered banks. She has for several years been pushing the idea that the OCC's job is to cut off telemarketers, online pharmacies and companies that sell tobacco products over the internet from access to the banking system, and generally to do good deeds for consumers. She would be better advised to have her examiners focusing on their banks' assets. Interesting... You are too easily lead - or mislead. Why do you say that? If I had time, I'd look them up. It's easy to do, I just don't care that much. I'm assuming there's some truth in Dave's post. I tend to filter out the obvious right-leaning stuff. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Travel Restrictions to Cuba May be Dropped
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... On 13 Feb 2009 10:34:01 -0600, Dave wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:09:37 -0500, said: On 13 Feb 2009 09:43:01 -0600, Dave wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:29:58 -0500, said: You are too easily lead - or mislead. I eagerly await your defense of Ms. Bair and Ms. Williams. I hope you are holding your breath! So you're not prepared to defend them? Never would have guessed it from your earlier post. I'd rather have you hold your breath. It would mean so much more to so many people. He's already a bit red (umm.. not commie red....)! No need to go further... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Travel Restrictions to Cuba May be Dropped
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... On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:02:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:36:26 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:48:22 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: One of the other things that needs to be done is to jettison some of the career regulators who seem to think their job is to go out and do all manner of good deeds for "consumers" instead of focusing on the financial health of the institutions they're supposed to be regulating. Sheila Bair and Julie Williams come immediately to mind. Not familar with these people. Sheila Bair engineered the intended takeover of Wachovia by Citibank for peanuts plus government assistance. A week later, before contracts could be prepared, BOA came in and offered far more without government assistance, and bought the bank. Julie Williams is General Counsel, and from time to time acting head, of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the agency that regulates nationally chartered banks. She has for several years been pushing the idea that the OCC's job is to cut off telemarketers, online pharmacies and companies that sell tobacco products over the internet from access to the banking system, and generally to do good deeds for consumers. She would be better advised to have her examiners focusing on their banks' assets. Interesting... You are too easily lead - or mislead. Why do you say that? If I had time, I'd look them up. It's easy to do, I just don't care that much. I'm assuming there's some truth in Dave's post. I tend to filter out the obvious right-leaning stuff. Good Lord! I would be Good Jonathan.. You would be Good Salty.. Dave would be Good Dave.. Lloyd Bridges would be Good Lloyd. lol -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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