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Capt. JG wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:Tu-
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Thank you Professor Jeff.

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Current child death count in the Gaza Concentration Camp = 410
(reported today on Al Jazeera)



Terrible tragedy. Perhaps Hamas should continue to stop firing off
rockets?

While they're at it they could try not caching weapons in dugouts under
kindergartens. But then one of their best propaganda tools, (in their
training manuals at least) is to find ways to lure the Israelis into
killing their children.

Cheers
Martin


Larry is so caught up in being a racist that he can't consider an alternate
view. You'll notice that I said it was a terrible tragedy and suggested that
perhaps the peace-loving Hamas, who refuse to acknowledge an entire
country's right to exist, might consider not attempting to kill innocent
people.


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On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:27:23 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


Larry is so caught up in being a racist that he can't consider an
alternate view. You'll notice that I said it was a terrible tragedy and
suggested that perhaps the peace-loving Hamas, who refuse to acknowledge
an entire country's right to exist, might consider not attempting to
kill innocent people.

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

thunder wrote in news:loCdndC8VMXOh-
et:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:27:23 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


Larry is so caught up in being a racist that he can't consider an
alternate view. You'll notice that I said it was a terrible tragedy and
suggested that perhaps the peace-loving Hamas, who refuse to acknowledge
an entire country's right to exist, might consider not attempting to
kill innocent people.

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.


War crimes don't count if it's Jews doing the crimes....at least since
1948.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:27:23 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


Larry is so caught up in being a racist that he can't consider an
alternate view. You'll notice that I said it was a terrible tragedy and
suggested that perhaps the peace-loving Hamas, who refuse to acknowledge
an entire country's right to exist, might consider not attempting to
kill innocent people.

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.


Never said that. What I said was "Terrible tragedy. Perhaps Hamas should
continue to stop firing off rockets?"

Is there something there that indicates I believe that any war crime is
tolerable?

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thunder wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:27:23 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


Larry is so caught up in being a racist that he can't consider an
alternate view. You'll notice that I said it was a terrible tragedy and
suggested that perhaps the peace-loving Hamas, who refuse to acknowledge
an entire country's right to exist, might consider not attempting to
kill innocent people.

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

Cheers
Martin

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


That's the pessimistic attitude. Israel attacked and so far Hamas has
stopped firing the rockets. I think it's possible for the situation to get
resolved. Remember... Egypt and Jordan were also enemies. Now, they tolerate
Israel. Even Syria isn't interested in armed conflict. You'll note they did
nothing when the Israeli airforce took out their nuclear power plant.
Lebannon hasn't done much since the Israelis withdrew (even with Hezbollah
in charge in a somewhat failed state).

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:03:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


That's the pessimistic attitude. Israel attacked and so far Hamas has
stopped firing the rockets. I think it's possible for the situation to get
resolved.

I think, based on all known history, that you are foolishly
optimistic. Hamas uses any ceasefire to regroup and re-arm for the
next round. Syria is probably supplying them with more missles and
other aid.

This is not exactly a new pattern, I'm talking about.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:03:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist
organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


That's the pessimistic attitude. Israel attacked and so far Hamas has
stopped firing the rockets. I think it's possible for the situation to get
resolved.

I think, based on all known history, that you are foolishly
optimistic. Hamas uses any ceasefire to regroup and re-arm for the
next round. Syria is probably supplying them with more missles and
other aid.

This is not exactly a new pattern, I'm talking about.



Hope for the best, plan for the worst...

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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.
So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


Oh, so the Israelis should just roll over and commit mass suicide? They
tried that at Masada, didn't really do much good.

They have done exactly the same thing any nation does when faced with
terrorists attacking them,, they took the fight to the terrorists,, just
like the US did following 911, (should have stuck to Afghanistan, but
that's another tale).

It's taken the Brits and the Irish terrorists, (yes, anybody who sets
bombs to deliberately kill innocent women and children to accomplish a
political goal is by definition a terrorist) only about 400 years to
come to an agreement,,, but in the end Britain is still Britain,
Ireland is still Ireland and the assholes have stopped killing innocents.

Cheers
Martin