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Anybody tried these rubber things that go on regular winches to make
them self tailing? Gordon |
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Gordon wrote:
Anybody tried these rubber things that go on regular winches to make them self tailing? Gordon The person I bought my boat from said they are great, and he circumnavigated with them. I haven't tried them yet so can't say for myself. boeland |
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"Boeland" wrote in message
... Gordon wrote: Anybody tried these rubber things that go on regular winches to make them self tailing? Gordon The person I bought my boat from said they are great, and he circumnavigated with them. I haven't tried them yet so can't say for myself. boeland They're better than nothing. If you have experience with self-tailers, you won't call them great. Another data point... they degrade in the sun after a few seasons. Found that out myself. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:17:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: They're better than nothing. If you have experience with self-tailers, you won't call them great. Another data point... they degrade in the sun after a few seasons. Yes on both points. We installed them on our old 28 footer many years ago and never found them to be very satisfactory. The main problem is that they do not strip line off the top of the winch drum the way a proper self tailer does. I'd never trust them to be a substitute for a cleat for more than a few seconds. |
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On Jan 16, 12:02 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:17:41 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: They're better than nothing. If you have experience with self-tailers, you won't call them great. Another data point... they degrade in the sun after a few seasons. Yes on both points. We installed them on our old 28 footer many years ago and never found them to be very satisfactory. The main problem is that they do not strip line off the top of the winch drum the way a proper self tailer does. I'd never trust them to be a substitute for a cleat for more than a few seconds. somebody needs to put the line stripper IN THE WINCH HANDLE so that in combination with the "Wincher" it is more like self tailing. However, I speak from ignorance because I have never used a self tailing winch. |
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In Frogwatch writes:
On Jan 16, 12:02 pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:17:41 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: They're better than nothing. If you have experience with self-tailers, you won't call them great. Another data point... they degrade in the sun after a few seasons. Yes on both points. We installed them on our old 28 footer many years ago and never found them to be very satisfactory. The main problem is that they do not strip line off the top of the winch drum the way a proper self tailer does. I'd never trust them to be a substitute for a cleat for more than a few seconds. somebody needs to put the line stripper IN THE WINCH HANDLE so that in combination with the "Wincher" it is more like self tailing. However, I speak from ignorance because I have never used a self tailing winch. It will not work, because if a winch is a of two speed variety the handle will turn to different direction of the different speeds. If there is some gearbox, the handle will anyway go faster than the drum. Then the stripper in a selftailing winch is stationary and the handle of course is not stationary. - Lauri Tarkkonen |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 12:02 pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:17:41 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: They're better than nothing. If you have experience with self-tailers, you won't call them great. Another data point... they degrade in the sun after a few seasons. Yes on both points. We installed them on our old 28 footer many years ago and never found them to be very satisfactory. The main problem is that they do not strip line off the top of the winch drum the way a proper self tailer does. I'd never trust them to be a substitute for a cleat for more than a few seconds. somebody needs to put the line stripper IN THE WINCH HANDLE so that in combination with the "Wincher" it is more like self tailing. However, I speak from ignorance because I have never used a self tailing winch. Self-tailing winches are the cat's pajamas. You can use both hands on the winch if you need to, or you can winch with one hand and sip your favorite bevvy with the other. On my 30 ketch, my winches are fairly small as my sail areas are also fairly small, and while it would be nice to have self-tailing jib winches, I'll not upgrade just to get that advantage. When my current jib winches wear out, however, their replacements will be self-tailing. |
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On our previous boat, the halyard winch (mounted on a vertical pad on the
mast) was not self tailing. It was tedious raising the main once you needed the winch for the last 15 to 20 feet, because you had to stop winching and grab the tail each 2 feet or so. With a Wincher installed, I could winch without pause because every second or third rotation of the handle, I would just slap a bit of the tail off the drum without slowing down. So for this application, I'd say the wincher was quite effective. That it was mounted on the mast made it easier to do what I did, and that there was so much line to be winched made it that much more valuable. I had selftailers for primaries, so never had to consider a Wincher there. "Gordon" wrote in message news Anybody tried these rubber things that go on regular winches to make them self tailing? Gordon |
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"Garland Gray" wrote in message
... On our previous boat, the halyard winch (mounted on a vertical pad on the mast) was not self tailing. It was tedious raising the main once you needed the winch for the last 15 to 20 feet, because you had to stop winching and grab the tail each 2 feet or so. With a Wincher installed, I could winch without pause because every second or third rotation of the handle, I would just slap a bit of the tail off the drum without slowing down. So for this application, I'd say the wincher was quite effective. That it was mounted on the mast made it easier to do what I did, and that there was so much line to be winched made it that much more valuable. I had selftailers for primaries, so never had to consider a Wincher there. "Gordon" wrote in message news Anybody tried these rubber things that go on regular winches to make them self tailing? Gordon Actually, that's a great idea. I was thinking about putting a self-tailer on my main halyard winch, but I'm too cheap to buy one. Not sure why I didn't think of it myself. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |