On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:49:32 -0500, "mmc" wrote:

Shipping containers have very hard corners.

I hear they lose about 10 000 containers a year. A goodly percentage
probably in the North Pacific. All that Walmart junk.

Casady

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:49:32 -0500, "mmc" wrote:

u can't judge all boats by that any more than you can judge all boaters by
the words of Wilbur.
Lots, if not most of the older boats have very strong hulls. When I
installed the thru hulls on my Phillip Rhodes Traveler I found about 2.5" of
hand laid glass in the bilge area.

And 2 1/2 is heavier than the hull of a type 7 U-boat, which had a
mere 20mm of steel. They have built 150 footers with 2 1/2 wood hull
planking. Minesweepers. John Wayne owned one.

Casady

Richard wrote in news:A9-
:

Larry wrote:
WaIIy wrote in
news

Shame on you Larry for not putting epoxy on the raw sides of the hole
you drilled.

That doesn't sound like you.




What difference would that make on a chopper gun sailboat??

It certainly can't become "delaminated" as there are no laminations to
start with.


Every thread is a "laminatin" as far as end-grain water migration
is concerned...


There's a big washer on the outside of the hole, so the hole itself is
always dry on the inside of the hull way up near the top of the lazerette
space. It hasn't made any difference to either the guy I did it for, or
the guy he sold it to in many years.

"mmc" wrote in
g.com:

My '63 Chris Craft "Caribbean" broke
loose of a very bad anchoring (by a paid "professional") when Floyd
passed by and ended up hard on the rocks on a causeway with some
gouges and scrapes


During one of the near miss hurricanes here in Charleston, a Hatteras 58
sport fisherman got loose from its poorly done docking, backed itself out
of its slip without touching another single boat that could be found,
drifted uninhabited out of Buzzard's Roost Marina in the Stono River, and
slamed itself over and over and over against the Stono River bridge pilings
of the very old swing bridge next to the marina.

That boat tore the bridge pilings all to hell!

The boat had its bridge hardtop torn off its mounting and the handrails
were a mess. But the very thick, real fiberglass hull was only scratched,
never actually dented or broken in any place in the hours and hours it
slammed up against the bridge pilings! When they finally got aboard her
after the storm, there was not enough water inside the boat during the
whole storm that its running bilge pumps couldn't handle. One window was
broken out and a couple of cushions had to be dried out, as was the carpet
in the main salon from the rain coming in.

Other than that, the boat was fine and is still tied, much better now I
suspect, in that same slip over there....(c;]

(Richard Casady) wrote in
:

They have built 150 footers with 2 1/2 wood hull
planking. Minesweepers. John Wayne owned one.



My last Navy duty station was Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic, back in
'69-'71. I got Shanghai'd a few times to solve this or that electronic
problem aboard them and taken to sea because I couldn't jump that far to
the dock.

NOTHING rolls like an MSO.....(c;]

It's a damned good thing those Packard engines are so deep in the hull....

They roll much worse when the damned rubber bladders full of diesel fuel on
deck get sloshing around in the slop.

Been there, done that....got the T-shirt.

Draft loaded for the Med is only about 8'!

On Dec 29, 3:52 pm, Dave wrote:
On 29 Dec 2008 13:06:01 -0600, Dave said:

They took a perfectly fine fleet tug and
put a McCann rescue chamber on deck, 4 additional Danforth anchors with
chain in stern lockers, and 4 mooring buoys on the second deck. All these
items above the CG.

Oh, I forgot the recompression chamber at the main deck level.

My father was Ensign on the DE Stewart in WW2 running from NYC to
Iceland. He said she rolled so much that they were afraid she wouldnt
stop and they had to continuously use axes to break the ice from the
topsides to keep her from being so top heavy she'd roll over.
Apparently, she was damaged so much on that run that people thought
she had sunk and were surprised when she limped into Iceland.
Fast forward many years when he was helping me deliver my new (to me
new) 28' S2 from St. Petersburg to St. Marks FL (across the northern
Gulf of Mexico). It was very rolly and we were all seasick but he lay
in the v-berth happily reading.
Now 90 yrs old, He'd still go sailing but he got Parkinsons last year.

Frogwatch wrote in news:d4ef0f4a-2e15-4408-80bb-
:

Now 90 yrs old, He'd still go sailing but he got Parkinsons last year.



My mother suffered with Parkinsons for 28 years. My condolences to you
both. The medical profession and pharmaceutical companies will eat you
alive to stop the shaking. One pill she took twice a day was over $58.

On Dec 29, 7:58 pm, Larry wrote:
Frogwatch wrote in news:d4ef0f4a-2e15-4408-80bb-
:

Now 90 yrs old, He'd still go sailing but he got Parkinsons last year.

My mother suffered with Parkinsons for 28 years. My condolences to you
both. The medical profession and pharmaceutical companies will eat you
alive to stop the shaking. One pill she took twice a day was over $58.

Although my father never did anything that most would say is "heroic",
I am very impressed by him. He raised 9 kids who all went to college
while his salary was never much. When I think of the wonderful things
they had us doing (mostly cheap camping and canoeing), I am extremely
thankful to them. My parents were not wimps, they would take all 9 of
us kids camping in any weather no matter how small we were. They had
us canoeing every isolated body of water in Florida and we all
routinely swam across some serious lakes, stuff I'd never want MY kids
to do, gators be damned.
After all us kids were grown, they had enough money to do cheap
adventure travel hiking up volcanoes in the Galapogos in their late
80s and other crazy stuff. At 82, my dad had his first set of hips
replaced and at 87 wore that set out so he had em replaced again. At
88, one day we went to see a cave entrance near the Chipola River near
Marianna, FL and they insisted they wanted to hike to the river in
spite of having to cross over a beaver dam with rushing water up to
our chests. With dad holding my shoulders we crossed with me thinking
"My sisters (I have 7 sisters) would kill me for allowing em to do
this" but you couldnt stop em.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 29, 7:58 pm, Larry wrote:
Frogwatch wrote in news:d4ef0f4a-2e15-4408-80bb-
:

Now 90 yrs old, He'd still go sailing but he got Parkinsons last year.
My mother suffered with Parkinsons for 28 years. My condolences to you
both. The medical profession and pharmaceutical companies will eat you
alive to stop the shaking. One pill she took twice a day was over $58.

Although my father never did anything that most would say is "heroic",
I am very impressed by him. He raised 9 kids who all went to college
while his salary was never much. When I think of the wonderful things
they had us doing (mostly cheap camping and canoeing), I am extremely
thankful to them. My parents were not wimps, they would take all 9 of
us kids camping in any weather no matter how small we were. They had
us canoeing every isolated body of water in Florida and we all
routinely swam across some serious lakes, stuff I'd never want MY kids
to do, gators be damned.
After all us kids were grown, they had enough money to do cheap
adventure travel hiking up volcanoes in the Galapogos in their late
80s and other crazy stuff. At 82, my dad had his first set of hips
replaced and at 87 wore that set out so he had em replaced again. At
88, one day we went to see a cave entrance near the Chipola River near
Marianna, FL and they insisted they wanted to hike to the river in
spite of having to cross over a beaver dam with rushing water up to
our chests. With dad holding my shoulders we crossed with me thinking
"My sisters (I have 7 sisters) would kill me for allowing em to do
this" but you couldnt stop em.

Hell, my grandma started running 5 miles a day at age 60. She's 90
now and we don't have a clue where she is!
G

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"mmc" wrote in
g.com:

My '63 Chris Craft "Caribbean" broke
loose of a very bad anchoring (by a paid "professional") when Floyd
passed by and ended up hard on the rocks on a causeway with some
gouges and scrapes


During one of the near miss hurricanes here in Charleston, a Hatteras 58
sport fisherman got loose from its poorly done docking, backed itself out
of its slip without touching another single boat that could be found,
drifted uninhabited out of Buzzard's Roost Marina in the Stono River, and
slamed itself over and over and over against the Stono River bridge
pilings
of the very old swing bridge next to the marina.

That boat tore the bridge pilings all to hell!

The boat had its bridge hardtop torn off its mounting and the handrails
were a mess. But the very thick, real fiberglass hull was only scratched,
never actually dented or broken in any place in the hours and hours it
slammed up against the bridge pilings! When they finally got aboard her
after the storm, there was not enough water inside the boat during the
whole storm that its running bilge pumps couldn't handle. One window was
broken out and a couple of cushions had to be dried out, as was the carpet
in the main salon from the rain coming in.

Other than that, the boat was fine and is still tied, much better now I
suspect, in that same slip over there....(c;]

Sounds like one of the older Hats. Great boats!