Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:57:49 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
tanews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
Captain Joshua Slocum is credited as being the first man to sail solo
around the world. And yet he took passengers aboard for day outings
during his circumnavigation. Oh, my! He didn't really sail "solo" at all!
Except that he was careful to, if I recall correctly, return his guests
to their point of boarding before continuing his solo effort.

If Zac accepted a tow to get repairs, his effort will still count as an
accomplishment as long as he returns to the point where the tow began
before continuing his solo. It would only be terminated if he was
attempting a non-stop circumnavigation and had to stop for any reason.


Good Lord, Karin! Talk about bankrupt logic. Using your logic, Zac might
as well sail to a starting point two miles off the coast from the
California marina where he started. Then he can be towed around the world
back to that very starting point then sail back in and he would then have
sailed alone around the world.


Wilbur Hubbard


You missed my point. He would have to return to the point where he accepted
the tow and then continue around the world on his own.


No! No! You don't understand! Wilbur (the Sage of the Sailors) is
always right!

To paraphrase the poet, "yours not to question why, your's but to do
or die". You see, if you don't it will cause Willie's tiny ego to
crumble to dust and he will become a non-entity.

You wouldn't want that on your conscience.... would you?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:08:30 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
tanews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
Captain Joshua Slocum is credited as being the first man to sail solo
around the world. And yet he took passengers aboard for day outings
during his circumnavigation. Oh, my! He didn't really sail "solo" at
all! Except that he was careful to, if I recall correctly, return his
guests to their point of boarding before continuing his solo effort.

If Zac accepted a tow to get repairs, his effort will still count as an
accomplishment as long as he returns to the point where the tow began
before continuing his solo. It would only be terminated if he was
attempting a non-stop circumnavigation and had to stop for any reason.


Good Lord, Karin! Talk about bankrupt logic. Using your logic, Zac might
as well sail to a starting point two miles off the coast from the
California marina where he started. Then he can be towed around the
world back to that very starting point then sail back in and he would
then have sailed alone around the world.


Wilbur Hubbard


You missed my point. He would have to return to the point where he
accepted the tow and then continue around the world on his own.


All I did is reverse the tow and the sail making it ludicrously obvious
that unless one sails the whole way around the world one is not sailing
around the world. You can't snip out a chunk here and a chunk there of the
voyage and claim those chunks don't count. You haven't completed your
voyage unless and until you go the entire way by yourself under your own
motive power. This is so obvious. Only other cheaters and shirklaws would
claim otherwise.

Wilbur Hubbard




Methinks you are being deliberately obtuse. If one returns to the point at
which the tow began before continuing the voyage, there is no missing chunk.

Oh, and in Captain Slocum's day, an engine meant steam power. I think he
would have installed a diesel if they had been available in his era.

I'm done with this this one. Fire away if you wish.



He's not obtuse....he's stupid!

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:03:34 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Slocum was an ethical person. He believed in being honest and forthwright.

So, you and he have nothing in common.

Wilbur is the entity that posted, in loving detail, his method of
ripping off Walmart. A confessed criminal.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
Captain Joshua Slocum is credited as being the first man to sail solo
around the world. And yet he took passengers aboard for day outings
during his circumnavigation. Oh, my! He didn't really sail "solo" at
all! Except that he was careful to, if I recall correctly, return his
guests to their point of boarding before continuing his solo effort.

If Zac accepted a tow to get repairs, his effort will still count as
an accomplishment as long as he returns to the point where the tow
began before continuing his solo. It would only be terminated if he
was attempting a non-stop circumnavigation and had to stop for any
reason.


Good Lord, Karin! Talk about bankrupt logic. Using your logic, Zac
might as well sail to a starting point two miles off the coast from the
California marina where he started. Then he can be towed around the
world back to that very starting point then sail back in and he would
then have sailed alone around the world.


Wilbur Hubbard


You missed my point. He would have to return to the point where he
accepted the tow and then continue around the world on his own.


All I did is reverse the tow and the sail making it ludicrously obvious
that unless one sails the whole way around the world one is not sailing
around the world. You can't snip out a chunk here and a chunk there of
the voyage and claim those chunks don't count. You haven't completed your
voyage unless and until you go the entire way by yourself under your own
motive power. This is so obvious. Only other cheaters and shirklaws would
claim otherwise.

Wilbur Hubbard




Methinks you are being deliberately obtuse. If one returns to the point at
which the tow began before continuing the voyage, there is no missing
chunk.

Oh, and in Captain Slocum's day, an engine meant steam power. I think he
would have installed a diesel if they had been available in his era.

I'm done with this this one. Fire away if you wish.

It's a good thing you threw in the towel because I was about to hit you with
the big guns.

Using your idiotic premise, instead of placing those waypoints two miles out
in the ocean from the port lets place them 2,000 miles out in the ocean.
Then let's tow the boat back and forth from port to these 2,000 mile out in
the ocean waypoints which amount to a small circle of waypoints
approximately 2,000 miles in diameter. You seem to be claiming that if one
sails around this 2,000 mile diameter circle while getting towed into and
out of port two thousand miles at a time when you feel like getting a steak
or watching a movie or when you get tired of sailing as long as you sail the
circle you have sailed around the world alone.

Duh! Double Duh!!

Wilbur Hubbard

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

In article ,
Alan Gomes wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Slocum was an ethical person. He believed in being honest and forthwright.

So, you and he have nothing in common.
Just curious, but is a "forthwright" someone who fabricates forths?

'Arr Jim Lad, I been a wrighter of forths fur fifty yeers man and boy'..

LOL

--
Molesworth

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:06:39 -0600, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

In article ,
Alan Gomes wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Slocum was an ethical person. He believed in being honest and forthwright.

So, you and he have nothing in common.
Just curious, but is a "forthwright" someone who fabricates forths?

'Arr Jim Lad, I been a wrighter of forths fur fifty yeers man and boy'..

LOL

The attributions are a bit confusing here.
Is it Mr. Firth asking about fabricating forths?

--Vic

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Dec 20, 3:13*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:06:39 -0600, Nigel Molesworth

wrote:
In article ,
Alan Gomes wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Slocum was an ethical person. He believed in being honest and forthwright.

So, you and he have nothing in common.
Just curious, but is a "forthwright" someone who fabricates forths?

'Arr Jim Lad, I been a wrighter of forths fur fifty yeers man and boy'..

LOL

The attributions are a bit confusing here.
Is it Mr. Firth asking about fabricating forths?

--Vic *

ahh Vic I think we all need a fifth I plead.

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:34:29 -0800 (PST), Two meter troll
wrote:

On Dec 20, 3:13Â*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:06:39 -0600, Nigel Molesworth

wrote:
In article ,
Alan Gomes wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Slocum was an ethical person. He believed in being honest and forthwright.

So, you and he have nothing in common.
Just curious, but is a "forthwright" someone who fabricates forths?

'Arr Jim Lad, I been a wrighter of forths fur fifty yeers man and boy'..

LOL

The attributions are a bit confusing here.
Is it Mr. Firth asking about fabricating forths?

--Vic Â*

ahh Vic I think we all need a fifth I plead.

Just quaffing a quart will quench my thirth.
Okay. Enough of thith from thith Smith.

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
Captain Joshua Slocum is credited as being the first man to sail solo
around the world. And yet he took passengers aboard for day outings
during his circumnavigation. Oh, my! He didn't really sail "solo" at
all! Except that he was careful to, if I recall correctly, return his
guests to their point of boarding before continuing his solo effort.

If Zac accepted a tow to get repairs, his effort will still count as
an accomplishment as long as he returns to the point where the tow
began before continuing his solo. It would only be terminated if he
was attempting a non-stop circumnavigation and had to stop for any
reason.

Good Lord, Karin! Talk about bankrupt logic. Using your logic, Zac
might as well sail to a starting point two miles off the coast from the
California marina where he started. Then he can be towed around the
world back to that very starting point then sail back in and he would
then have sailed alone around the world.


Wilbur Hubbard

You missed my point. He would have to return to the point where he
accepted the tow and then continue around the world on his own.

All I did is reverse the tow and the sail making it ludicrously obvious
that unless one sails the whole way around the world one is not sailing
around the world. You can't snip out a chunk here and a chunk there of
the voyage and claim those chunks don't count. You haven't completed your
voyage unless and until you go the entire way by yourself under your own
motive power. This is so obvious. Only other cheaters and shirklaws would
claim otherwise.

Wilbur Hubbard



Methinks you are being deliberately obtuse. If one returns to the point at
which the tow began before continuing the voyage, there is no missing
chunk.

Oh, and in Captain Slocum's day, an engine meant steam power. I think he
would have installed a diesel if they had been available in his era.

I'm done with this this one. Fire away if you wish.

It's a good thing you threw in the towel because I was about to hit you with
the big guns.

Using your idiotic premise, instead of placing those waypoints two miles out
in the ocean from the port lets place them 2,000 miles out in the ocean.
Then let's tow the boat back and forth from port to these 2,000 mile out in
the ocean waypoints which amount to a small circle of waypoints
approximately 2,000 miles in diameter. You seem to be claiming that if one
sails around this 2,000 mile diameter circle while getting towed into and
out of port two thousand miles at a time when you feel like getting a steak
or watching a movie or when you get tired of sailing as long as you sail the
circle you have sailed around the world alone.

Duh! Double Duh!!

Wilbur Hubbard



A true circumnavigation of the world must pass through two points
antipodean to each other.' Norris McWhirter, founding editor of
Guinness, 1971.

I don't give a damm if you get towed to point X wherever X is so long as
you then circumnavigate by the above definition, crossing your own
outward track after X on your return before getting another tow. That's
an unassisted circumnavigation if the round track from X to X was
unassisted. Its only commercial interests that force a record breaking
circumnavigation for example to start and finish in specific ports. Now
stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, Wilma.

Zac is a cheater. I'm cheering for the British lad.
 

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:59:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Young Zac has blown his chance to sail alone around the world. This from his
blog:

http://www.zacsunderland.com/blog/

"The shipping out there was so heavy - there was a constant stream of ships
coming in and out and 60 standing off the entrance. So I tacked out to about
two miles from the harbor and went hove-to. The guys from the yacht club
were having trouble finding me in the maze of lights so I turned on my
strobe. When they found me they threw me a line and a cold Coke and towed me
in. Now I was so tired coming in that I was falling asleep with the wind in
my face. I finally got docked about 4:30 in the morning and went over to
Phil's boat for a very light dinner.

No honor! Even Donald Crowhurst is probably spinning in his grave.

Wilbur Hubbard

Is there any possible reason to give a ****?

Casady