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Adding bow roller and other thoughts
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Adding bow roller and other thoughts
"Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
... This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. I guess that's true. You have to wonder though... it is difficult, if not extremely difficult to haul up an anchor without a windless, especially without a windlass. I wonder what that says about the rest of the boat... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. Well, I suppose it is conceivable that there may be some people who never anchor and never even think they need to anchor so perhaps they carry a light aluminium anchor and no chain and think that is Ok even for a 38' boat.. But this side of the pond they would be laughed out of court with a 38' sailboat so ill equipped and certainly would not be able to get insurance. But I still think this 'Janet O' Leary' is another troller tho' I gave 'her' the benefit of the doubt by giving some good information in reply to 'her' first post. But ever since then 'her' posts have always been vague generalised questions apparently just to get discussions going. If, as 'she' first said someone is 'giving' her a boat why have we not been told what make and type so that we can home in on some specific points?. I am out of this one therefore. 'She' can buy some books and read about the basics therein as far as I am concerned.. |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
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... On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:48:06 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message . .. This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. I guess that's true. You have to wonder though... it is difficult, if not extremely difficult to haul up an anchor without a windless, especially without a windlass. I wonder what that says about the rest of the boat... The demographic of typical sailors has changed over the decades. The average cruising type sailors tend to be older on average than they were 20 or 30 years ago. New boats reflect that in how they are equipped. You can keep sailing to a much older age if you have the right equipment on board. That's why things such as furling mainsails have become so common now. I agree of course. I was thinking that if the boat hasn't been upgraded in 20-30 years, then the owner hasn't used her much, maybe because she has other problems that aren't so obvious. One really needs good ground tackle for decent cruising and even for weekend cruising, not to mention for safety. All it take is one small engine problem and looming rocks... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
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... Well, I suppose it is conceivable that there may be some people who never anchor and never even think they need to anchor so perhaps they carry a light aluminium anchor and no chain and think that is Ok even for a 38' boat.. But this side of the pond they would be laughed out of court with a 38' sailboat so ill equipped and certainly would not be able to get insurance. But I still think this 'Janet O' Leary' is another troller tho' I gave 'her' the benefit of the doubt by giving some good information in reply to 'her' first post. But ever since then 'her' posts have always been vague generalised questions apparently just to get discussions going. If, as 'she' first said someone is 'giving' her a boat why have we not been told what make and type so that we can home in on some specific points?. I am out of this one therefore. 'She' can buy some books and read about the basics therein as far as I am concerned.. Almost certainly a troll, but an interesting subject nonetheless. Tackle is important and good tackle and systems are essential. I mostly day-sail, with a few overnights on the hook, since I mostly teach on my boat during the summer months. If I'm not teaching, I don't tend to be gone for more than the weekend or a three-day. If I go offshore on her, I'm either sailing or going to a specific place rather than coast hop (not many places to do this safely on the left coast). I have a primary, which is a small Bruce (no windlass on my 30-footer, but I do have a roller on the teak sprit). I have a small Danforth in the stern laz as a backup. If I'm just bouncing around on the bay, then I typically stow the Bruce. If I'm teaching anything more than the basic stuff, then I leave it on the roller, tied off, but still pretty quickly deployable. The Danforth is also pretty easy to get going, but I've never had to do so. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
"Edgar" wrote in message ... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. Well, I suppose it is conceivable that there may be some people who never anchor and never even think they need to anchor so perhaps they carry a light aluminium anchor and no chain and think that is Ok even for a 38' boat.. But this side of the pond they would be laughed out of court with a 38' sailboat so ill equipped and certainly would not be able to get insurance. But I still think this 'Janet O' Leary' is another troller tho' I gave 'her' the benefit of the doubt by giving some good information in reply to 'her' first post. But ever since then 'her' posts have always been vague generalised questions apparently just to get discussions going. If, as 'she' first said someone is 'giving' her a boat why have we not been told what make and type so that we can home in on some specific points?. I am out of this one therefore. 'She' can buy some books and read about the basics therein as far as I am concerned.. Who are you talking about? I started this thread because I have found that the majority of boats for sale, in the 32 to 38 range, 1977 to 1985 do not have a windless. many do not have bow rollers. It appears there are few "cruisers" for sail (sic) that are equipped for cruising. Most seem to have spent their lives tied up in marinas. |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Edgar" wrote in message ... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. Well, I suppose it is conceivable that there may be some people who never anchor and never even think they need to anchor so perhaps they carry a light aluminium anchor and no chain and think that is Ok even for a 38' boat.. But this side of the pond they would be laughed out of court with a 38' sailboat so ill equipped and certainly would not be able to get insurance. But I still think this 'Janet O' Leary' is another troller tho' I gave 'her' the benefit of the doubt by giving some good information in reply to 'her' first post. But ever since then 'her' posts have always been vague generalised questions apparently just to get discussions going. If, as 'she' first said someone is 'giving' her a boat why have we not been told what make and type so that we can home in on some specific points?. I am out of this one therefore. 'She' can buy some books and read about the basics therein as far as I am concerned.. Who are you talking about? I started this thread because I have found that the majority of boats for sale, in the 32 to 38 range, 1977 to 1985 do not have a windless. many do not have bow rollers. It appears there are few "cruisers" for sail (sic) that are equipped for cruising. Most seem to have spent their lives tied up in marinas. I thought Janet O'Leary started this thread. He he! YOU are the O'Leary sock puppet, then. Busted! Wilbur Hubbard |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Edgar" wrote in message ... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? SWAG - $150/hour x 5 ? This whole thing is a troll. Who has ever seen a 38' sailboat without a bow roller? In shopping for a boat, I have been amazed how many have neither. Well, I suppose it is conceivable that there may be some people who never anchor and never even think they need to anchor so perhaps they carry a light aluminium anchor and no chain and think that is Ok even for a 38' boat.. But this side of the pond they would be laughed out of court with a 38' sailboat so ill equipped and certainly would not be able to get insurance. But I still think this 'Janet O' Leary' is another troller tho' I gave 'her' the benefit of the doubt by giving some good information in reply to 'her' first post. But ever since then 'her' posts have always been vague generalised questions apparently just to get discussions going. If, as 'she' first said someone is 'giving' her a boat why have we not been told what make and type so that we can home in on some specific points?. I am out of this one therefore. 'She' can buy some books and read about the basics therein as far as I am concerned.. Who are you talking about? I started this thread because I have found that the majority of boats for sale, in the 32 to 38 range, 1977 to 1985 do not have a windless. many do not have bow rollers. It appears there are few "cruisers" for sail (sic) that are equipped for cruising. Most seem to have spent their lives tied up in marinas. I thought Janet O'Leary started this thread. He he! YOU are the O'Leary sock puppet, then. Busted! Wilbur Hubbard I don't have a clue who Janet O'Leary is? I meant I'm the one who asked the question: Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? |
Adding bow roller and other thoughts
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:28:14 -0600, "jlrogers±³©"
wrote: "Janet O'Leary" wrote in message ... Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? .... Who are you talking about? I started this thread because I have found that the majority of boats for sale, in the 32 to 38 range, 1977 to 1985 do not have a windless. ... I thought Janet O'Leary started this thread. He he! YOU are the O'Leary sock puppet, then. Busted! Wilbur Hubbard I don't have a clue who Janet O'Leary is? I meant I'm the one who asked the question: Anyone know the cost (approximately) of having a yard install a bow roller and electric/manual windless to a 38 foot boat? Hearing Hubbard crowing about sock puppets was worth a laugh. A JL Rogers responded to a thread started by a J O'Leary, three days later. Here is the J O'Leary first post header: Are you she? BrianW From: "Janet O'Leary" Newsgroups: rec.boats.cruising Subject: Adding bow roller and other thoughts X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:13:55 GMT X-Trace: nwrddc02.gnilink.net 1228878835 71.181.56.37 (Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:13:55 EST) Ok,, there you are .. standing there, at a marina. A 30' cruising sailboat is right in front of you. She is in good shape, but very plain. She does not have roller furling, bow roller with appropriate anchor, ... just a whole bunch of stuff. *********************************************** |
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