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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God intended sailboats to do. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God intended sailboats to do. Wilbur Hubbard Doofus |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. Doofus Excellent suggestion! Get a doofus to go get it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and there was the roller. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God intended sailboats to do. Wilbur Hubbard Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have hanked on head sails. So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing Wilbur is. Take your pick. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and there was the roller. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Swimming pool net? |
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Dave wrote in
: difficult to catch right. Reading all this advise gave me a flashback into the 1960s when our ship was anchored out stern to the quay in Naples, Italy.... There always seemed to be these "bumboat operators" in little rowing gondolas hanging around about 100 meters from our Navy ship every time I walked out on the weather deck. What they were waiting for was any scraps of metal or any other stuff they could salvage, row ashore, and sell to the Italian scrapyards. They became quite a bunch of pests with all the begging every time some sailor opened a hatch. One day the Deck Force had had enough. They had an old leaky flexible steam line, about the size of a 4" fire hose, armored in stainless steel around some kind of rubber core. It was about 12' long and must have weighed close to 300 pounds. The guys on the deck force simply dumped it overboard as if it were some kind of accident with lots of "Oh, ****" and other colorful sailor language for effect. As if these little gondolas had metal detecting radar, the scrambled towards the point the big hose went under, grappling hooks at the ready. One guy got a hook on it but couldn't even raise it off the mud by himself in 25' of water. A crowd of sailors had gathered by that time cheering for them to get it, waiting to see how they were going to engineer this project. The guy attached already decided to share the profits with two other boat ops who soon, with some pretty good skill, had their hooks tangled into the steel wire that wrapped the outside of it. Now attached at the ends and near the middle, they coordinated their liftings and started pulling hard on the lines try to raise it. The gondolas, responding to the increased load, got lower and lower and really lower in the water, as they DID manage to raise the weight off the bottom. At that point, physics took over and got to be a problem. The line was FLEXIBLE, as in hose! Lifted off the bottom, the ends of the line lifted easier than the middle so the hose formed itself into a U quite quickly. As the gondola operators had no anchors out to hold their ground, the two guys on the end soon were headed on a crash course with the guy in the middle as the hose came up. There was nothing they could do to stop it, of course, except to LET GO OF THE LINE and lay the hose back on the bottom. GREED overcame LOGIC at that point and they just kept hauling up. The gondola in the middle was much lower, having more and more of the load as the U got deeper in the middle. Just before the inevitable collisions of the guys on the end, the BILGE boards of the center gondola solved the GREED problem by splitting right under the guys shoes sending his legs right through the hull of his gondola, forcing him to LET GO. Now with the whole weight of the hose suspended between them, the speed at which the end guys increased to the sinking center gondola causing all 3 boats to smash into each other, with lots of new Italian words I had never heard before spoken VERY quickly and loudly. The assembled sailors, of course, were rolling on the deck by this time and some of them rushed below to open the big sea level hatches in our machine shop to take the survivor Italians aboard. This was winter in Napoli and the water was cold, so they threw some Navy blankets over them and took them to our big sick bay where the doc and the corpmen got them warmed up and checked out. A police patrol boat was summoned who took them away, I never found out to what..... I can still see the shocked look on that center gondola guy's face around his heavy beard and bulging muscles as the deck split under him, sending him into the Naples Harbor, which was like an open sewer full of floating garbage our divers just hated. I salute all the sailors, soldiers and Marines, especially those who died and survived Pearl Harbor, on this date 1941.....We remember them, today. |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
: On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God intended sailboats to do. Wilbur Hubbard Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have hanked on head sails. So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing Wilbur is. Take your pick. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) I actually have one.... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. =================== Find another diver. |
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This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks.
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On Dec 8, 7:50 am, "Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote:
This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks. I tried the swimming pool net and could not get it. My 18 yr old son SAYS her will do it next weekend for $25 bucks but I am doubtful he really will. Although the water isnt dangerously cold, it isn't comfy for us FL natives. Even worse, it s nasty looking water with almost no visibility. Did I mention the alligators, there seem to be some small ones around although the cold water may make them lethargic. Oyster tongs might work if I can find an oysterman willing to lend them. I'll almost certainly end up trying to do it myself next weekend by diving in spite of my ear problems. |
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 07:35:53 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: On Dec 8, 7:50 am, "Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote: This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks. I tried the swimming pool net and could not get it. My 18 yr old son SAYS her will do it next weekend for $25 bucks but I am doubtful he really will. Although the water isnt dangerously cold, it isn't comfy for us FL natives. Even worse, it s nasty looking water with almost no visibility. Did I mention the alligators, there seem to be some small ones around although the cold water may make them lethargic. Oyster tongs might work if I can find an oysterman willing to lend them. I'll almost certainly end up trying to do it myself next weekend by diving in spite of my ear problems. Try some good earplugs. Got a dog? If he likes to swim, throw a ball in the water a bit off the pier. He'll distract any gators while you dive in. --Vic |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. Chuck a webcam in after it http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/...ersible-webcam then go fishing with a lassoo. |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God intended sailboats to do. Wilbur Hubbard Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have hanked on head sails. So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing Wilbur is. Take your pick. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Mass stupidity doesn't make anything right. And lame assumptions such as looking at boats stuck at a dock for thirty years and noting they all have wind-ups and assuming that means boats that actually sail the world all have wind-ups is the very definition of being misinformed, stupid, biased and cowardly. It is not we traditional cruising sailors who use hank-on headsails who are whining like so many inept babies in a public newsgroup about dropping totally unnecessary crap overboard than bothering others with lame questions about how to retrieve said crap. "Waaa waaaah, Mommy the water's too cold!!!" What kind of a sailor admits stupidity, ineptitude, childishness and sail-by-committee behavior such as this and then begs free advice on how to not suffer the consequences of his many faults and total unsuitability as a sailor? Not only are wind-ups proven more troublesome by virtue of their very design that require extra moving parts, they are also more expensive and less reliable. They are heavier, they cost more, they often come unwound in a storm causing great damage to the vessel and others unfortunate enough to be close by. In any position other than completely unwound they are less efficient. The only real rationale for them is their owner being too cowardly to go forward in a blow to change a headsail as a proper seaman wound not think twice about. But, to broadcast in public one's own stupidity at having allowed these more expensive and less reliable, not to mention totally unnecessary, wind-ups to go by the board simply broadcasts one's immutable lubberly bent. Sad! Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. DB, Once, a long time ago (20 years) a couple of friends were trying to cast mature trout in Port Canaveral. They found that in water deep enough to allow ships next to the pier, the mullet would simply dive lower and the net would close before it got down to them. So my friends used duct tape, 2 rings around the perimeter of the net, to keep it open long enough to get the mullet. They got so many mullet in the first cast that they couldn't lift the net. One of them had to get in the water to let the mullet out. They weren't commercial, just getting a couple for the smoker and adjusted the plan to just go after loners. I think you might be able to retrieve the drum with your cast net. Or maybe a friend has a long handled shrimp net? |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and there was the roller. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) I hate to say it considering the source but THIS is a sailor's solution. No whining, no fuss. He just thought about it, came up with a good plan and he did it. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch said: ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. I had very good luck retrieving a pair of lost glasses a year or so ago, using a clam rake. Of course that furling drum is a bit larger, so may be difficult to catch right. Stupid suggestion. An example of speaking primarily for the sake of being heard. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. =================== Find another diver. Another stupid suggestion. Do you also recommend he hire somebody to wipe his ass? Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote in message ... This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks. It could, perhaps, but since when is paying somebody to clean up after your stupidity a manly thing to do? Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. Chuck a webcam in after it http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/...ersible-webcam then go fishing with a lassoo. Oh my! Another dumb suggestion. One would think sailors believe they will melt in water. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"mmc" wrote in message ng.com... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. DB, Once, a long time ago (20 years) a couple of friends were trying to cast mature trout in Port Canaveral. They found that in water deep enough to allow ships next to the pier, the mullet would simply dive lower and the net would close before it got down to them. So my friends used duct tape, 2 rings around the perimeter of the net, to keep it open long enough to get the mullet. They got so many mullet in the first cast that they couldn't lift the net. One of them had to get in the water to let the mullet out. They weren't commercial, just getting a couple for the smoker and adjusted the plan to just go after loners. I think you might be able to retrieve the drum with your cast net. Or maybe a friend has a long handled shrimp net? The suggestions just continue to become more and more pathetic. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 12:59:06 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: Oh my! Another dumb suggestion. One would think sailors believe they will melt in water. Perhaps one could obtain the services of a trained dolphin.. |
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On Dec 7, 2:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. *Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. *Water depth is 10-12'. *I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. *It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. *A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). *ANY ideas to get it sooner? *I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. *I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. A couple thoughs from a former oilfild diver......... First, some idiot said wear ear plugs. Dont! I wont boar you with a lecture about diving physics and preasure/volume Next, 12 feet is NOT deep. at one time I was making working free dives to 90+ feet. But that was 30 years ago. It can be done if you find the right person. Last, Dont hesitate if you really need somthing to recoverd. Even a slight current will roll it long gone. Get a real diver not some kid with a paper sign taped to the gate at your marina that says "Diver" Sport scuba divers are a joke regardless of howmany gizmoes he has hanging off his breathing apperatus.. But that will cost ya more than the part is worth. But then you ll get it back. Your best bet is drag it up with a pool net. I would say spend 1-2 hours doing that then go buy a replacment part. OR.......... Stop smoking for a month Go to your swimming pool and beging exercizing your eustation tubes and learn to clear your ears. If you can fly, or drive over a moutain pass say 1000' gain elevation then you can clear your ears in water. Ya cant call water cold untill 60 F Man up and do it. ON the other hand ya cant fix sisy. Bob |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... snipped here OR.......... Stop smoking for a month Go to your swimming pool and beging exercizing your eustation tubes and learn to clear your ears. If you can fly, or drive over a moutain pass say 1000' gain elevation then you can clear your ears in water. Ya cant call water cold untill 60 F Man up and do it. ON the other hand ya cant fix sisy. Forget it, Bob! He won't listen to reason. If he had he would not be in the fix he finds himself in now. He's an obviously an out-of-shape, ignorant lubber who has no business aboard a boat. He will whine about one physical infirmity after another, one concern after another, one limitation after another until somebody takes pity on his lazy and inept ass and pulls the fat out of the fire for him. Can't you read between the lines of his post. He is a lubberly wimp and a fool. He made his bed. Let him lie in it. I wish you and other would stop enabling such lubberly attitudes and behavior. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Dec 8, 11:34*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... snipped here OR.......... Stop smoking for a month Go to your swimming pool and beging exercizing your eustation tubes and learn to clear your ears. If you can fly, or drive over a moutain pass say 1000' gain elevation then you can clear your ears in water. Ya cant call water cold untill 60 F Man up and do it. ON the other hand ya cant fix sisy. Forget it, Bob! *He won't listen to reason. If he had he would not be in the fix he finds himself in now. He's an obviously an out-of-shape, ignorant lubber who has no business aboard a boat. He will whine about one physical infirmity after another, one concern after another, one limitation after another until somebody takes pity on his lazy and inept ass and pulls the fat out of the fire for him. Can't you read between the lines of his post.. He is a lubberly wimp and a fool. He made his bed. Let him lie in it. I wish you and other would stop enabling such lubberly attitudes and behavior. Wilbur Hubbard Hummm, you are correct. But unlike you I am a confirmed bleanding heart fuzzy headed commie chi-comm hippy Democrate who belives everybody deserves one set of instructions on how to succeed. After that its up to them. Evern a republican deserves one chance..... hell bush got two! bob |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... snip Hummm, you are correct. But unlike you I am a confirmed bleanding heart fuzzy headed commie chi-comm hippy Democrate who belives everybody deserves one set of instructions on how to succeed. After that its up to them. Evern a republican deserves one chance..... hell bush got two! bob Republican = Democrat light. I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed aside when convenient to do so. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Frogwatch" wrote
ANY ideas to get it sooner? Okay, you're going to need two heavy concrete blocks, some duct tape, a piece of rope, and Wilbur Hubbard. Duct tape the blocks securely to Wilbur's feet and instruct him to tie the rope to the furling drum when he gets down there. Hand Wilbur the rope, toss him overboard, and then report back here for kudos on a job well done. Oh, and if your drum hasn't drifted too far downstream, you can retrieve it with a pool net. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... Oh my! Another dumb suggestion. One would think sailors believe they will melt in water. Wilbur Hubbard Back in the day, it was considered bad luck for sailors to know how to swim. Perhaps the OP is simply a traditionalist -- just not a luddite. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed aside when convenient to do so. Wilbur Hubbard If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the Amendments? |
Retrieving an overboard part
On Dec 7, 2:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the dock. *Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I MIGHT be able to bear it. *Water depth is 10-12'. *I can locate the drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how it is oriented. *It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier straight down. *A diver says he can get it next month although he already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my directions well). *ANY ideas to get it sooner? *I am sure I will end up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. *I hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears. keep probing for the part in case it drifts get a wet suit for the kid at the local good will, a snorkle mask new, and send him or her on down put the boat hook on the part and let the kid follow it to the bottom pick up the part and bring it back up. you know where it is and the diver does not have to see it to grab it. wait for low tide and the depth will be less. |
Retrieving an overboard part
In article , Larry wrote:
[snip] I can still see the shocked look on that center gondola guy's face around his heavy beard and bulging muscles as the deck split under him, sending him into the Naples Harbor, which was like an open sewer full of floating garbage our divers just hated. Very enjoyable, thanks for posting it. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
Retrieving an overboard part
In article , Ansley W. Sawyer wrote:
This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks. On a no-win, no-fee basis, of course. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
Retrieving an overboard part
Justin C wrote in
: Very enjoyable, thanks for posting it. Justin. Glad you liked it. |
Retrieving an overboard part
On Dec 8, 1:26*pm, Justin C wrote:
In article , Ansley W. Sawyer wrote: This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks. On a no-win, no-fee basis, of course. * * * * Justin. I belive the correct phrase is: NO CURE NO PAY. A damn good business plan. Bob |
Retrieving an overboard part
On Dec 8, 12:29*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bob" wrote in message Republican = Democrat light. I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed aside when convenient to do so. Wilbur Hubbard Excellent idea. I have argued the same for years when it comes to the right to keep and bare arms as the constitution originally intended: All firearms are banned EXCEPT smooth bore flint locks. Now that is one I would support! Idont know my firearm history that well. Maybe cap and ball is more accurate, yes? BOB |
Retrieving an overboard part
"Bob" wrote in message ... snip Excellent idea. I have argued the same for years when it comes to the right to keep and bare(sic) arms as the constitution originally intended: All firearms are banned EXCEPT smooth bore flint locks. Now that is one I would support! Idont know my firearm history that well. Maybe cap and ball is more accurate, yes? Arms can mean any arms. Swords, for example. Bows and arrows, cudgels. Note it does not say anything specifically about firearms. Arms include any and all arms up to and including future arms. The key word, though is "bear." To bear is to carry. This means you have no right to cannons, rockets, tanks, battleships, etc. Get it? Wilbur Hubbard |
Retrieving an overboard part
On Dec 8, 4:08*pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed aside when convenient to do so. Wilbur Hubbard If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the Amendments? Kudos!!! |
Retrieving an overboard part
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:57:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: If he likes to swim, throw a ball in the water a bit off the pier. He'll distract any gators while you dive in. Ah yes, the old live bait trick. Casady |
Retrieving an overboard part
"Voyager255" wrote in message ... On Dec 8, 4:08 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed aside when convenient to do so. Wilbur Hubbard If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the Amendments? | Kudos!!! Your ignorance is showing. Duh! Amendments 1-10 are called the Bill of Rights. They were part of the Constitution when it was ratified. Amendments 11-27 were created thereafter ACCORDING TO THE RULES SET FORTH IN THE CONSTITUTION. The existence of amendments, in no way, indicates a living, breathing Constitution. Ugly, ignorant Americans. It's a disgrace! Most don't even know their own history. Wilbur Hubbard |
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