The H27 model you reference is not the 27 I'm thinking of. The H 27
I'm (possibly mistakenly) referring to is a smaller version of the H31
of your second link.

The H 31 in your second link does indeed have a B&R rig made by Isomat
with an Isomat boom. the Isomat B& R Mast Head Rig had double swept
back spreaders with double overlapping integral diamond adjustable
stays to induce mast bend. Cap, mid and lower shrouds to an inboard
chainplate. Extruded track on forward section of mast and mid mast
sheeve for an adjustible spinnaker car. Also equipped with a high
split rear stay to accomodate an aft boarding ladder.

http://www.sailboatowners.com/album/...07468631&bts=T

The above URL give a better view of the rig



On Fri, 21 May 2004 06:41:13 -0400, DSK wrote:

Marc wrote:
Hunter put a B&R rig on the 1983 H27, and H31, the 1984 H34 and H40.
I owned A 1984 H31 with the B& R Rig.


http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...16&fno=0&bts=T

http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...24&fno=0&bts=T

I suggest you take another look at the B&R rig. The boats you are
talking about are conventional rigs.



A lot of people didn't think much of the Vision series. That was the
problem.

I thought it was a great idea, but didn't care much for Hunter's
execution of it. The Freedoms are much better designed and much better
built... and of course, much much more expensive.

FWIW my favorite of the Freedom boats is the old 40 cat ketch.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Marc wrote:
The H 31 in your second link does indeed have a B&R rig made by Isomat
with an Isomat boom. the Isomat B& R Mast Head Rig had double swept
back spreaders with double overlapping integral diamond adjustable
stays to induce mast bend.

I wouldn't call that a B&R rig, for one things it's a masthead with a
backstay. It's got some of the elements of the B&R though, kind of a
*******ized stepchild. With the standing backstay, it can't have a big
roachy mainsail, with the wide double spreaders it can't set a genoa
properly.

No wonder you thought it was a horrible rig. This looks like it has all
the B&R faults and none of the benefits. What were they thinking?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Bergstrom & Ridder have been designing rigs since 1972. The patented
characteristics of a B&R rig are the diagonal diamonds, in lieu of
running back stays, and swept back spreaders with a small mast
section. This rig was first seen on Thursday's Child, built in 1983.
That B&R rig was incorporated as a masthead rig with back stay on all
subsequent Hunters. In 1989, Thursday's Child was re- fit with a
fractional B&R rig with no backstay, a precursor of all the new Hunter
rigs.

B&R designs have been incorporated into Hunters for the past 21 years,
first through Isomat, then some other fabricators, and now Seldon


On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:26:29 -0400, DSK wrote:



I wouldn't call that a B&R rig, for one things it's a masthead with a
backstay. It's got some of the elements of the B&R though, kind of a
*******ized stepchild. With the standing backstay, it can't have a big
roachy mainsail, with the wide double spreaders it can't set a genoa
properly.

No wonder you thought it was a horrible rig. This looks like it has all
the B&R faults and none of the benefits. What were they thinking?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Marc wrote:
Bergstrom & Ridder have been designing rigs since 1972. The patented
characteristics of a B&R rig are the diagonal diamonds, in lieu of
running back stays, and swept back spreaders with a small mast
section ..

I'd have guessed it was the other way around. I.e., the swept-back
spreaders compensate for the lack of runners, and that the characteristic
"diamond shrouds" keep the mast "in column" athwartships without the use of
conventional twin lowers.

That'd be my _first_ guess in any case.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

You are correct. I got twisted around.

On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:10:46 -0400, "Armond Perretta"
wrote:

Marc wrote:
Bergstrom & Ridder have been designing rigs since 1972. The patented
characteristics of a B&R rig are the diagonal diamonds, in lieu of
running back stays, and swept back spreaders with a small mast
section ..

I'd have guessed it was the other way around. I.e., the swept-back
spreaders compensate for the lack of runners, and that the characteristic
"diamond shrouds" keep the mast "in column" athwartships without the use of
conventional twin lowers.

That'd be my _first_ guess in any case.