Hello,

What is the drawback by using only PU satin varnish..?? I got a small
boat, and don't feel like buying double amount of varnish, just to get

satin look.

PS - anyone got a picture of a boat that has been varnished with
satin..??

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"steen" wrote...

What is the drawback by using only PU satin varnish..?? I got a small
boat, and don't feel like buying double amount of varnish, just to get
satin look.

Dunno for sure...

Of the various brands I looked at last fall when shopping for satin varnish,
only 1 or 2 recommended gloss varnish as the base coat[s]. HOWEVER, most of
the satins are rated for interior use only. Maybe they aren't designed to
hold up under hard use, weather, or UV.

I did the floorboards of my boat with Interlux satin. I started with a
sealer coat of epoxy, then 2 coats of gloss Z-Spar Captains, then 3 coats of
the satin, sanding with 240 after the epoxy and gloss coats, and 320 between
the satin coats. Turned out VERY well!

I saw one boat last fall where the owner revarnished previously glossy rails
with satin. It looked terrible up close -- brush strokes galore! I don't
know how he prepared it, or what varnishes he used. Proper preparation is
worth the time invested!

On 23 May 2004 20:05:35 GMT, "steen" wrote:

Hello,

What is the drawback by using only PU satin varnish..?? I got a small
boat, and don't feel like buying double amount of varnish, just to get

satin look.

Don't understand. You say you have a small boat, yet you want to
varnish with satin finish. I infer from that that the boat has an
interior, since satin should only be used on interior surfaces. A boat
this size should most likely require more than one quart of Epifanes.

One uses satin only as the last coat because satin varnish is somewhat
cloudy compared to gloss. Same stuff that makes the varnish satin also
obscures the clarity.

Epifanes is $25 a quart/liter here in the US. Should never begrudge
getting the proper materials. Your time is far more valuable.

On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:08:25 -0700, P.C. Ford
wrote:

Epifanes is $25 a quart/liter here in the US. Should never begrudge
getting the proper materials. Your time is far more valuable.

At www.classicboatconnection.com it's $19/l. If you buy a case (6
cans) it's $18/l.

We've been buying Epifanes from them for years and are very happy with
the service.

Marce
Spellbound

On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:49:19 UTC, "John R Weiss"
wrote:

the satins are rated for interior use only. Maybe they aren't designed to
hold up under hard use, weather, or UV.

This is the case. Thanks!
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steen wrote:

On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:49:19 UTC, "John R Weiss"
wrote:

the satins are rated for interior use only. Maybe they aren't designed to
hold up under hard use, weather, or UV.

This is the case. Thanks!

You can easily achieve a satin finish with gloss varnish by rubbing it
out with fine Scotchbrite, steel wool or bronze wool. It's actually a
bit nicer than using satin varnish, since you don't have the flatting
agent hiding the wood grain.

Of the various brands I looked at last fall when shopping for satin
varnish,
only 1 or 2 recommended gloss varnish as the base coat[s]. HOWEVER, most
of
the satins are rated for interior use only. Maybe they aren't designed to
hold up under hard use, weather, or UV.

Epifanes has a UV resistant satin. I used it on my windowsills, looks good
but it's
obviously an interior application, so I can't tell you how well it holds up
outside.

Matt

On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:14:41 UTC, Brian Nystrom
wrote:

You can easily achieve a satin finish with gloss varnish by rubbing it
out with fine Scotchbrite, steel wool or bronze wool.

Aha - my 'interest' in the satin look actually came from the process
of sanding and washing the epoxy.

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steen wrote:

On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:14:41 UTC, Brian Nystrom
wrote:


You can easily achieve a satin finish with gloss varnish by rubbing it
out with fine Scotchbrite, steel wool or bronze wool.


Aha - my 'interest' in the satin look actually came from the process
of sanding and washing the epoxy.

Wet sanding with 600-800 grit will also work.

"Brian Nystrom" wrote...

You can easily achieve a satin finish with gloss varnish by rubbing it
out with fine Scotchbrite, steel wool or bronze wool. It's actually a
bit nicer than using satin varnish, since you don't have the flatting
agent hiding the wood grain.

The Interlux satin varnish I used as final coats on my floorboards doesn't
significantly hide the grain. Maybe I'll try the bronze wool on the gloss
varnish next time, but it sounds like more work (and risk) than I'd like...