A boat I am interested in will need new rigging. Forestay, backstay,
shrouds, and the hardware that goes with the wire. Turnbuckles, etc.

What process should I follow to replace the rigging? What supplier is the
best to deal with? What measurements etc do I need to know?

Is this a big job? From my reading, it doesn't seem to be. Mostly just get
the new and throw away the old. Am I missing something?

Also,,, life line? I will need new lifeline. Can I get this at the same
supplier?

Other equipment I am interested in and really don't know where to get;

A wind generator that attaches to the forward halyard. I've seen on in a
picture. My guess is it is a portable device that you put up when anchored.
I suppose you run a wire into the hatch or something. Any thoughts?

Also,,, an anchor windlass. One of the crank kind, not electric. Where
and who has this?

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
A boat I am interested in will need new rigging.

How do you know?
________________

Forestay, backstay,
shrouds, and the hardware that goes with the wire. Turnbuckles, etc.

What process should I follow to replace the rigging?

Take off old, put on new.
______________

What supplier is the best to deal with?

I don't know...which is best to buy a new TV?
_________________

What measurements etc do I need to know?

Maybe wire size, wire type (1x19, 7x7, 7x19, etc), wire
length...turnbuckles size and type - galvanized/stainless/bronze. Et
cetera.
____________

Is this a big job? From my reading, it doesn't seem to be. Mostly
just get the new and throw away the old. Am I missing something?

Expense. You could mitigate that by making deadeyes.
______________

Also,,, life line? I will need new lifeline. Can I get this at the
same supplier?

Other equipment I am interested in and really don't know where to get;

A wind generator that attaches to the forward halyard. I've seen on
in a picture. My guess is it is a portable device that you put up
when anchored. I suppose you run a wire into the hatch or something.
Any thoughts?

Also,,, an anchor windlass. One of the crank kind, not electric.
Where and who has this?

Wilcox-Crittendon (if they are still in business), Jamestown
Distributers, most any Google hit for "marine equipment"...

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Thomas Wentworth wrote:
A boat I am interested in will need new rigging. Forestay, backstay,
shrouds, and the hardware that goes with the wire. Turnbuckles, etc.

What process should I follow to replace the rigging? What supplier is the
best to deal with? What measurements etc do I need to know?

Is this a big job? From my reading, it doesn't seem to be. Mostly just get
the new and throw away the old. Am I missing something?

Also,,, life line? I will need new lifeline. Can I get this at the same
supplier?

Other equipment I am interested in and really don't know where to get;

A wind generator that attaches to the forward halyard. I've seen on in a
picture. My guess is it is a portable device that you put up when anchored.
I suppose you run a wire into the hatch or something. Any thoughts?

Also,,, an anchor windlass. One of the crank kind, not electric. Where
and who has this?



West Marine and Defender, both of which also have online presence by
adding "dot com" to their names, have huge online catalogues, can be
starting sources to learn about and price many marine systems/items.

Ample Power.com and Jack Rabbit Marine (I think .com also,) are two
sources for 12 generation and management stuff.

Sailnet.com used to have an online rigging operation, whether they still
do in their re-incarnation, I can't tell you, you'd have to check.

For direct information about windlasses, check Simpson-Lawrence and
Lewmar, again online.

Much of this stuff shows up on E-Bay, deeply discounted (sometimes by
West Marine) but you need to have done your "shopping" and learning first.

Replacing (replicating) rigging isn't a particularly tough project,
unless you don't have the original to copy, then it is a quite a bit
more complex.

Why do you think it needs replacing? Are the fittings cracked from
freezing or corrosion? All of it at once sounds a little odd to me.

Why don't you take it to a local rigging shop (Look in the yellow Pages
or ask around locally) and get an opinion. You might get away with
replacing one or two pieces instead of all at once.

If this is about that "Free" Vanguard you posted about earlier, tread
slowly, old boats can suck up enough money with out spending unnecessarily.

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without is a good mantra while
getting to know a new to you old boat.

My .02,

Jonathan

--
I am building my daughter an Argie 10 sailing dinghy, check it out:
http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr

"Jonathan W." wrote in message
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Thomas Wentworth wrote:
A boat I am interested in will need new rigging. Forestay, backstay,
shrouds, and the hardware that goes with the wire. Turnbuckles, etc.

What process should I follow to replace the rigging? What supplier is
the best to deal with? What measurements etc do I need to know?

Is this a big job? From my reading, it doesn't seem to be. Mostly just
get the new and throw away the old. Am I missing something?

Also,,, life line? I will need new lifeline. Can I get this at the same
supplier?

Other equipment I am interested in and really don't know where to get;

A wind generator that attaches to the forward halyard. I've seen on in a
picture. My guess is it is a portable device that you put up when
anchored. I suppose you run a wire into the hatch or something. Any
thoughts?

Also,,, an anchor windlass. One of the crank kind, not electric. Where
and who has this?



West Marine and Defender, both of which also have online presence by
adding "dot com" to their names, have huge online catalogues, can be
starting sources to learn about and price many marine systems/items.

Ample Power.com and Jack Rabbit Marine (I think .com also,) are two
sources for 12 generation and management stuff.

Sailnet.com used to have an online rigging operation, whether they still
do in their re-incarnation, I can't tell you, you'd have to check.

For direct information about windlasses, check Simpson-Lawrence and
Lewmar, again online.

Much of this stuff shows up on E-Bay, deeply discounted (sometimes by West
Marine) but you need to have done your "shopping" and learning first.

Replacing (replicating) rigging isn't a particularly tough project, unless
you don't have the original to copy, then it is a quite a bit more
complex.

Why do you think it needs replacing? Are the fittings cracked from
freezing or corrosion? All of it at once sounds a little odd to me.

Why don't you take it to a local rigging shop (Look in the yellow Pages or
ask around locally) and get an opinion. You might get away with replacing
one or two pieces instead of all at once.

If this is about that "Free" Vanguard you posted about earlier, tread
slowly, old boats can suck up enough money with out spending
unnecessarily.

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without is a good mantra while
getting to know a new to you old boat.

My .02,

Jonathan

==================================================

Why do you think it needs replacing? Are the fittings cracked from
freezing or corrosion? All of it at once sounds a little odd to me.

The rigging is 38 years old. It has passed a survey but in the survey was a
recommendation to replace.

As I said, I don't own the boat yet. I am doing my homework, so to speak.

I never had to do this with the 3 previous boats I owned. Since the mast is
off the boat, why not do it before the season. Makes sense, I think.

Thanks,,, for the answers


I am building my daughter an Argie 10 sailing dinghy, check it out:
http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr

Standing rigging in a boat like the Vanguard is very simple. Rough guesses:
8 pieces, 250' total $1000 for wire, terminals and turnbuckles.
I'd hand the whole job to a local rigger. It should not be done by an
amateur.
Lifelines from the same source.

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"Jonathan W." wrote in message
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Thomas Wentworth wrote:
A boat I am interested in will need new rigging. Forestay, backstay,
shrouds, and the hardware that goes with the wire. Turnbuckles, etc.

What process should I follow to replace the rigging? What supplier is
the best to deal with? What measurements etc do I need to know?

Is this a big job? From my reading, it doesn't seem to be. Mostly
just
get the new and throw away the old. Am I missing something?

Also,,, life line? I will need new lifeline. Can I get this at the
same
supplier?

Other equipment I am interested in and really don't know where to get;

A wind generator that attaches to the forward halyard. I've seen on in
a
picture. My guess is it is a portable device that you put up when
anchored. I suppose you run a wire into the hatch or something. Any
thoughts?

Also,,, an anchor windlass. One of the crank kind, not electric.
Where
and who has this?



West Marine and Defender, both of which also have online presence by
adding "dot com" to their names, have huge online catalogues, can be
starting sources to learn about and price many marine systems/items.

Ample Power.com and Jack Rabbit Marine (I think .com also,) are two
sources for 12 generation and management stuff.

Sailnet.com used to have an online rigging operation, whether they still
do in their re-incarnation, I can't tell you, you'd have to check.

For direct information about windlasses, check Simpson-Lawrence and
Lewmar, again online.

Much of this stuff shows up on E-Bay, deeply discounted (sometimes by
West
Marine) but you need to have done your "shopping" and learning first.

Replacing (replicating) rigging isn't a particularly tough project,
unless
you don't have the original to copy, then it is a quite a bit more
complex.

Why do you think it needs replacing? Are the fittings cracked from
freezing or corrosion? All of it at once sounds a little odd to me.

Why don't you take it to a local rigging shop (Look in the yellow Pages
or
ask around locally) and get an opinion. You might get away with
replacing
one or two pieces instead of all at once.

If this is about that "Free" Vanguard you posted about earlier, tread
slowly, old boats can suck up enough money with out spending
unnecessarily.

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without is a good mantra while
getting to know a new to you old boat.

My .02,

Jonathan

==================================================

Why do you think it needs replacing? Are the fittings cracked from
freezing or corrosion? All of it at once sounds a little odd to me.

The rigging is 38 years old. It has passed a survey but in the survey was
a
recommendation to replace.

As I said, I don't own the boat yet. I am doing my homework, so to speak.

I never had to do this with the 3 previous boats I owned. Since the mast
is
off the boat, why not do it before the season. Makes sense, I think.

Thanks,,, for the answers


I am building my daughter an Argie 10 sailing dinghy, check it out:
http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
A boat I am interested in will need new rigging. Forestay, backstay,
shrouds, and the hardware that goes with the wire. Turnbuckles, etc.

It sounds to me like you need an experienced rigger, nothing to fool
around with if you are not experienced. You could lose your mast and
worse, injure someone. If you entire boat needs new rigging, you have
to understand tuning etc. If you want to just replace pieces at a time,
take them down and mail to JSI, they will replicate exactly, no
problem. Then have a rigger tune.

What process should I follow to replace the rigging? What supplier is the
best to deal with? What measurements etc do I need to know?

Is this a big job? From my reading, it doesn't seem to be. Mostly just get
the new and throw away the old. Am I missing something?

Also,,, life line? I will need new lifeline. Can I get this at the same
supplier?
Life lines are the same procedure, take the old off, take to West Marine or mail in, replicate them exactly.

Other equipment I am interested in and really don't know where to get;
Sounds to me like you need to spend some time on your boat, in boatyards, marinas and a lot of time reading and talking with some real sailors!

A wind generator that attaches to the forward halyard. I've seen on in a
picture. My guess is it is a portable device that you put up when anchored.
I suppose you run a wire into the hatch or something. Any thoughts?

I have an air marine, great!

Also,,, an anchor windlass. One of the crank kind, not electric. Where
and who has this?

Lots of used around, try Sailorman in Ft.Lauderdale, they have a
website!