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Surveyors (in general)
Well, I've (on several Sailnet lists) gotten nothing but positive feedback
about the only two surveyors I've known about in FL, Pete Brown, and Rick Shelley. In Pete's case, for a 46' boat, it's $19 a foot, including climbing and inspecting masthead and attachments along with the rigging everywhere. I don't have a price for Rick. However, take a gander at http://www.nymarinesurveyor.com/index.html and look at their samples, and their pricing (which *doesn't* include direct inspection of any sticks or rigging off the deck). I particularly like their documentation with photos and citations of regs WRT any suggested stuff. Seems to me that this would be particularly effective in negotiation after the survey, as it's not conjecture, or subjective, but regulation. In looking at several of their samples, I see that there's a fair amount of boilerplate (which is entirely appropriate for duplicate circumstances or stuff which is background for each client). I got a grin out of every one advocating subscribing to Good Old Boat and Practical Sailor, and to purchase Don Casey's, Nigel Calder's, and a couple of other boat books... Couple of questions: Has anyone used them? Has anyone used *other* surveyors who use this approach? L8R Skip (and Lydia, by proxy) -- "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
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Surveyors (in general)
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If you already know for sure a surveyor anywhere in the U.S. that you truly respect, it will pay to fly him in and cover lodging and expenses as needed. There are lots of good surveyors (I assume), but they are not a high percentage of those advertising as such. I was extremely disappointed in the survey I received from a "certified" professional when I bought my boat. The boat has been fine, but the price should have been considerably lower based in many simple items I now know to look at. If I were buying a boat anywhere in the U.S. or Canada, particlularly a wooden boat, I would give Kent Parker in Sausilito a call and see what he'd be open to. However, as I said, I'm sure that are many qualified people and it just takes a lot of talking around to fine which names keep coming to the top. If you need to consider a rigging report separate or additional, I believe Brion Toss (sp?) offers an out-of-town package for rigging surveys, and although he has a "shameless commerce division" that would put Click 'n' Clack to shame, everything I've heard about him and seen of his reports is very good. You can contact him at his website. Best luck. Rufus |
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Surveyors (in general)
Rufus wrote: IMHO... If you already know for sure a surveyor anywhere in the U.S. that you truly respect, it will pay to fly him in and cover lodging and expenses as needed. There are lots of good surveyors (I assume), but they are not a high percentage of those advertising as such. I was extremely disappointed in the survey I received from a "certified" professional when I bought my boat. The boat has been fine, but the price should have been considerably lower based in many simple items I now know to look at. If I were buying a boat anywhere in the U.S. or Canada, particlularly a wooden boat, I would give Kent Parker in Sausilito a call and see what he'd be open to. However, as I said, I'm sure that are many qualified people and it just takes a lot of talking around to fine which names keep coming to the top. If you need to consider a rigging report separate or additional, I believe Brion Toss (sp?) offers an out-of-town package for rigging surveys, and although he has a "shameless commerce division" that would put Click 'n' Clack to shame, everything I've heard about him and seen of his reports is very good. You can contact him at his website. Best luck. Rufus Well, my feeling is that if the guy shows up in a suit, fire him on the spot. Dirty coveralls, hard hat, boots, with a headlamp and checklist would inflame my torch. Last guy I hired was certified and all, and mine was a crummy old f/g toyboat 29' Tylercraft, but he never mentioned deck rot, or illegal sewers (in some areas). Thank God and my eyes, everything else was not too bad, except the engine, and we got no blisters. Well, I mean, at least it hasn't sunk us yet. Sheesh! Not as bad, but like the guy who did a home inspection on a property we eventually bought, he didn't really do us any good. This house fellow was 'not used to' mobile homes. Wassa use? It's only for the insurance paperwork, right? Liability coverage for small craft normally parked in your back yard is included in many home policies. If you can't afford to lose it, you shouldn't buy it. If you can't kick a thru hull yourself, or don't know why you should, you should stay ashore, Billy. Oooh, I've gotta quit now. The urge to vent is rising in my breast. Have mercy. -- Terry K - My email address is MY PROPERTY, and is protected by copyright legislation. Permission to reproduce it is specifically denied for mass mailing and unrequested solicitations. Spamspoof salad by spamchock TM - SofDevCo ® |
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