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Where is hull design going?
I figured this erudite group could point me in the correct direction.
I've been cruising thru a variety of naval research sites, but was wondering what you designer-types might think. Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? Thanks Gary P. Joyce |
Where is hull design going?
gjoyce asks:
Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? That's like asking Ferrari what they will be doing aerodynamically on their next Formula One car. Or asking Ford what the next Focus will look like. Good luck, though ;-) Steve Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm |
Where is hull design going?
"gjoyce" wrote in message m... I figured this erudite group could point me in the correct direction. I've been cruising thru a variety of naval research sites, but was wondering what you designer-types might think. Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? Thanks Gary P. Joyce Well, I think they'll be working alot more IR/Radar-defeating surfaces into construction, stealth technologies, crew-automation... I see afew multihulls on the design table, lots of efforts to reduce ship/crew size, increase efficiency, defenses seem to be focusing towards anti-missile lately. If you'll notice, alot more design-process proposals are coming out for smaller naval vessels, with less focus on the larger carrier vessels. The Aircraft Carrier of today doesn't look much different than it did in WW2-era. Not so for the destroyer or frigate of today's Navy. |
Where is hull design going?
"Chris" wrote in message om...
"gjoyce" wrote in message m... I figured this erudite group could point me in the correct direction. I've been cruising thru a variety of naval research sites, but was wondering what you designer-types might think. Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? Thanks Gary P. Joyce Well, I think they'll be working alot more IR/Radar-defeating surfaces into construction, stealth technologies, crew-automation... I see afew multihulls on the design table, lots of efforts to reduce ship/crew size, increase efficiency, defenses seem to be focusing towards anti-missile lately. If you'll notice, alot more design-process proposals are coming out for smaller naval vessels, with less focus on the larger carrier vessels. The Aircraft Carrier of today doesn't look much different than it did in WW2-era. Not so for the destroyer or frigate of today's Navy. Yeah, I've noticed that reading what lit is available...the military is definitely looking at B-2 -looking boats to defeat radar ... they also seem pretty serious about coatings to prevent critters, but I'm wondering if - recreationally - what could/would/might trickle down. Seems most of the work is being done in the submarine context ... the Russians have this battleship-like design that works surface and sub .... wild ... but they don;t have the cash anymore ... I was reading something about hull technology and the guy said that there is so little capitalization in the rec market, and so little "real" R&D being done, that to expect anything coming out of the rec market was pointless ... then there is the reluctance of "hard core" boaters to change anything (witness the resistance to multihulls in the sail community, and the resistance to cats by the power community)... I was just thinking that maybe some of y'all out there had some ideas .... God know I won't laugh, 'cause anything you can describe is waaaaay beyond anything I know anything about ... just ruminating ...started surfing ... thought the topic was intriguing ... Gary |
Where is hull design going?
I don't know ...the chief weakness in existing do-it-yourself boats is the
apparent lack of the bikini-attraction force. It's probably some kind of static charge thing that draws polyester swimsuits closer, but have you noticed that fiberglass speed boats tend to attract the most bikinis? Whenever a bikini gets close, it sticks right to the boat with such strength that the gal wearing the bikini is stuck flat on her back for hours. We've got to figure this out and fix home-builts so they work better ...maybe wood is a bikini repellent? I know aluminum is ...same with forward-slanting windshields... Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "Chris" wrote in message m... "gjoyce" wrote in message m... I figured this erudite group could point me in the correct direction. I've been cruising thru a variety of naval research sites, but was wondering what you designer-types might think. Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? Thanks Gary P. Joyce Well, I think they'll be working alot more IR/Radar-defeating surfaces into construction, stealth technologies, crew-automation... I see afew multihulls on the design table, lots of efforts to reduce ship/crew size, increase efficiency, defenses seem to be focusing towards anti-missile lately. If you'll notice, alot more design-process proposals are coming out for smaller naval vessels, with less focus on the larger carrier vessels. The Aircraft Carrier of today doesn't look much different than it did in WW2-era. Not so for the destroyer or frigate of today's Navy. |
Where is hull design going?
"Brian D" wrote in message news:jFYrb.165150$HS4.1341475@attbi_s01...
I don't know ...the chief weakness in existing do-it-yourself boats is the apparent lack of the bikini-attraction force. It's probably some kind of static charge thing that draws polyester swimsuits closer, but have you noticed that fiberglass speed boats tend to attract the most bikinis? Whenever a bikini gets close, it sticks right to the boat with such strength that the gal wearing the bikini is stuck flat on her back for hours. We've got to figure this out and fix home-builts so they work better ...maybe wood is a bikini repellent? I know aluminum is ...same with forward-slanting windshields... Brian Brian, Do like that boat ... that's some jon you're doing, given the space problem! gary -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "Chris" wrote in message m... "gjoyce" wrote in message m... I figured this erudite group could point me in the correct direction. I've been cruising thru a variety of naval research sites, but was wondering what you designer-types might think. Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? Thanks Gary P. Joyce Well, I think they'll be working alot more IR/Radar-defeating surfaces into construction, stealth technologies, crew-automation... I see afew multihulls on the design table, lots of efforts to reduce ship/crew size, increase efficiency, defenses seem to be focusing towards anti-missile lately. If you'll notice, alot more design-process proposals are coming out for smaller naval vessels, with less focus on the larger carrier vessels. The Aircraft Carrier of today doesn't look much different than it did in WW2-era. Not so for the destroyer or frigate of today's Navy. |
Where is hull design going?
According to AutoCAD, the boat fits as long as I stop building after the
V-berth goes in. At that point, I need to move the boat to a shelter or larger shop. A buddy of mine has some barns on his grass farm. Another guy has a large shop that could accommodate 2 or 3 boats like this. Both have said I could use them ...but I'd rather avoid it if I can. Might build a bow-roof shelter next to Garage #3. I have 14' between structure and fence line there, and can go 40' deep if I need to (only need 28' plus or minus). I find that figuring out the finer details as you go works best ..."Just do it!" (but with just a little forethought so you know if there will be a solution to the various challenges along the way.) Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "gjoyce" wrote in message m... "Brian D" wrote in message news:jFYrb.165150$HS4.1341475@attbi_s01... [snip] Brian, Do like that boat ... that's some job you're doing, given the space problem! gary -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "Chris" wrote in message m... "gjoyce" wrote in message m... I figured this erudite group could point me in the correct direction. I've been cruising thru a variety of naval research sites, but was wondering what you designer-types might think. Where do you see hull design - shapes, materials, coatings, propulsion, etc. - going in the near - and not so near - future? Thanks Gary P. Joyce Well, I think they'll be working alot more IR/Radar-defeating surfaces into construction, stealth technologies, crew-automation... I see afew multihulls on the design table, lots of efforts to reduce ship/crew size, increase efficiency, defenses seem to be focusing towards anti-missile lately. If you'll notice, alot more design-process proposals are coming out for smaller naval vessels, with less focus on the larger carrier vessels. The Aircraft Carrier of today doesn't look much different than it did in WW2-era. Not so for the destroyer or frigate of today's Navy. |
Where is hull design going?
"Brian D" ) writes:
According to AutoCAD,... I find that figuring out the finer details as you go works best ..."Just do it!" (but with just a little forethought so you know if there will be a solution to the various challenges along the way.) I've been trying to work out all the details for a 15 ft plywood sailboat with a cabin on paper as an exercise. I don't plan to build the boat. It's frustrating. I was able to make a cardboard model no problem. I have a clear image of the boat in my imagination. Getting it on paper is a challenge. Both the cardboard model and the paper plan are abstractions from a desired reality but the model seems less abstract. I've done some thinking on mathematical and other abstractions over the years. The best ones have the simplest set of essential information. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
Where is hull design going?
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:30:59 GMT, "Brian D"
wrote something .......and in reply I say!: A buddy of mine has some barns on his grass farm. ???????????? ************************************************** **************************************** Until I do the other one,this one means nothing Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music remove ns from my header address to reply via email !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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