"Vito" wrote in message
...
Meindert Sprang wrote:

The small oscillation you get has nothing to do with mass of electrons
and
their inertia. It is caused by the fact that every coil has a bit of
parasitic capacitance, forming a resonant loop with the inductance of
the
coil, ...

Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot? Sometimes hard to
tell on the net.

del cecchi

Vito,

The inertia of the electrons is counteracted by the mass of the holes
going the other way.

Regards, Ron

PS Brian W. Sorry Brian, what were we talking about?

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:15:52 -0500 (EST), (Ron
Thornton) wrote:

Vito,

The inertia of the electrons is counteracted by the mass of the holes
going the other way.

Regards, Ron

PS Brian W. Sorry Brian, what were we talking about?

Search me!

Brian W

Del Cecchi wrote:

"Vito" wrote
Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot?

Neither one. Do you doubt that electrons have mass and therefore
inertia? If they did not, then current would stop at once when the coil
unsaturated. But it does not. The little buggers keep going til they've
charged the capacitor (parasitic in this case but still real). Then
(Bugle sounds retreat) they head the other way re energizing the coil
..... etc. .... creating a damped AC wave.

Sometimes hard to tell on the net.

Yes indeed.

"Vito" wrote in message
...
Del Cecchi wrote:

"Vito" wrote
Yes but Meindert old bean, if electrons didn't have inertia resonant
circuits wouldn't resonate.

Is this a feeble attempt at humor, or are you an idiot?

Neither one. Do you doubt that electrons have mass and therefore
inertia? If they did not, then current would stop at once when the coil
unsaturated. But it does not.

Sorry to say Vito, but that is completely nonsense. The reason current keeps
folwing for a while is magnetism. Current flowing through a wire creates a
magnetic field around the wire. Also, a changing magnetic field induces
current in a wire. What happens when you open the contact is this: the
current stops flowing, the existing static field collapses and is therefore
changing. And the field change induces a current in the wire in the opposite
direction. In a straight wire this effect is hardly noticable but coiled up,
the field around the wire concentrates and the effect gets bigger.

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read a
book about basic electric laws.

Meindert

Meindert Sprang wrote:

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and read a
book about basic electric laws.

But Meindert, I weld from time to time and as you probably know welding
requires large current flows. This means huge numbers of electrons are
racing along the wire to the welding rod.

I have noticed that when I pull the rod away from the work it always has
a big blob on the end. Are you saying this isn't because all those
electrons kept rushing into the hot metal and caused it to bulge out
when they had no place to go?

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message
news
Meindert Sprang wrote:

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and
read a
book about basic electric laws.

But Meindert, I weld from time to time and as you probably know welding
requires large current flows. This means huge numbers of electrons are
racing along the wire to the welding rod.

I have noticed that when I pull the rod away from the work it always has
a big blob on the end. Are you saying this isn't because all those
electrons kept rushing into the hot metal and caused it to bulge out
when they had no place to go?

:-))

By the way, take a good look at your car's headlights: if you take a right
turn, the right headlight gets a little dim because all electrons are forced
to the left side of the wiring in the car. You know, inertia, centrifugal
forces and all....

Meindert

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:45:41 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
tempted fate with:

By the way, take a good look at your car's headlights: if you take a right
turn, the right headlight gets a little dim because all electrons are forced
to the left side of the wiring in the car. You know, inertia, centrifugal
forces and all....

Meindert

I've worried about my VHF antenna. It's way up at the top of my mast.
Are the electrons slowing down on the way up? And when they come
falling back down the coax like little bombs and plow into my radio,
can they damage it? Is there a radiation hazard?


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When you were welding, were you using DC, DC Reverse or AC?

Rick wrote:
Meindert Sprang wrote:

And if you still believe in electron inertia, I advise you to go and
read a
book about basic electric laws.


But Meindert, I weld from time to time and as you probably know welding
requires large current flows. This means huge numbers of electrons are
racing along the wire to the welding rod.

I have noticed that when I pull the rod away from the work it always has
a big blob on the end. Are you saying this isn't because all those
electrons kept rushing into the hot metal and caused it to bulge out
when they had no place to go?

Rick



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Dan Best wrote:

When you were welding, were you using DC, DC Reverse or AC?

The rod bulges with DCEN (straight polarity)

I get equal bead and bulge when using AC

Rick