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JAG JR October 20th 03 01:20 AM

Light weight composite boats
 
Anybody have any experience/built one oft these lightweight composite boats
(plans) on the web now?

Just wondereing how they compare to heavier boats in a sea/wind? Also in a
breeze/tide while docking?

Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?










Alexander A. Meller October 20th 03 02:38 AM

Light weight composite boats
 
Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?


Famed performance dinghy designer Uffa Fox wrote, "Weight belongs in steam
rollers". Lighter is faster. Of course if your requirements are sailing
heavily laden through major tropical depressions...

Alexander Meller

William R. Watt October 20th 03 01:59 PM

Light weight composite boats
 
in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while
reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared
to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort.

Alexander A. Meller ) writes:
Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?


Famed performance dinghy designer Uffa Fox wrote, "Weight belongs in steam
rollers". Lighter is faster. Of course if your requirements are sailing
heavily laden through major tropical depressions...

Alexander Meller



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Backyard Renegade October 20th 03 03:51 PM

Light weight composite boats
 
"JAG JR" wrote in message ...
Anybody have any experience/built one oft these lightweight composite boats
(plans) on the web now?

Just wondereing how they compare to heavier boats in a sea/wind? Also in a
breeze/tide while docking?

Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?


Can you be a little more specific? What composite, what size and type
vessel, boating conditions? There are lot's of composites on the web,
from plastic bags, to sglass and foam.
Scotty from Small(composite)boats.com

Kevin October 20th 03 05:44 PM

Light weight composite boats
 
I'm in the process of building a Javelin, it's a 14 composite
Australian/New Zealand skiff. I'm building mine using 4mm marine ply,
Fiberglass and Kevlar.
a finished hull should weigh about 80kg. Plans are free but not on the
web, yet. If your interested I have some construction images I could
send you.

Kevin

Albert Ottens October 20th 03 07:20 PM

Light weight composite boats
 
A friend of mine builds composite power catamarans
of PVC foam, glas fibre and epoxy resin.

multihulls sailing performance is superb.

of monohulls i don't know.

regards
bert ottens


"William R. Watt" schreef in bericht
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in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while
reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared
to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the

discomfort.

Alexander A. Meller ) writes:
Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?


Famed performance dinghy designer Uffa Fox wrote, "Weight belongs in

steam
rollers". Lighter is faster. Of course if your requirements are

sailing
heavily laden through major tropical depressions...

Alexander Meller



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Rodney Myrvaagnes October 21st 03 05:49 AM

Light weight composite boats
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:20:02 GMT, "JAG JR"
wrote:

Anybody have any experience/built one oft these lightweight composite boats
(plans) on the web now?

Just wondereing how they compare to heavier boats in a sea/wind? Also in a
breeze/tide while docking?

Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?

Wrong as a generalization. Weight at the bottom of the keel is good in
a ballasted boat. In a high-performance CB boat any weight is bad. The
crew is the ballast.

Excess weight in the structure takes away from the possible ballast
and carrying capacity, so that is bad too, in any boat. But keeping
the structural strength while reducing structural weight costs money.


Rodney Myrvaagnes Opionated old geezer

Faith-based economics: It's deja voodoo all over again

Rick Tyler October 25th 03 05:48 AM

Light weight composite boats
 
On 20 Oct 2003 12:59:30 GMT, (William R.
Watt) wrote:

in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while
reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared
to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort.

I wish I could remember who it was for sure -- it might have been Phil
Bolger -- who wrote that the worst chair in your house is more
comfortable than the best seat in your boat.

- Rick Tyler

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"Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the
depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian

Backyard Renegade October 26th 03 02:47 PM

Light weight composite boats
 
Rick Tyler wrote in message . ..
On 20 Oct 2003 12:59:30 GMT, (William R.
Watt) wrote:

in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while
reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared
to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort.

I wish I could remember who it was for sure -- it might have been Phil
Bolger -- who wrote that the worst chair in your house is more
comfortable than the best seat in your boat.

- Rick Tyler



In the very beginning I thought this may be a troll, due to the timing
and the conversations going on with the offset traditionl framework
guy ;).
Seems we may have been suckered in here...
Scotty

Rick Tyler October 26th 03 03:37 PM

Light weight composite boats
 
On 26 Oct 2003 06:47:48 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

Rick Tyler wrote in message . ..
I wish I could remember who it was for sure -- it might have been Phil
Bolger -- who wrote that the worst chair in your house is more
comfortable than the best seat in your boat.


In the very beginning I thought this may be a troll, due to the timing
and the conversations going on with the offset traditionl framework
guy ;).
Seems we may have been suckered in here...


As fond as I am of a little harmless trolling, I save it for
alt.folklore.urban. Whatever clever double entendre I might have
executed here was quite unintentional.

- Rick Tyler

--
"Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the
depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian


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