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Light weight composite boats
Anybody have any experience/built one oft these lightweight composite boats
(plans) on the web now? Just wondereing how they compare to heavier boats in a sea/wind? Also in a breeze/tide while docking? Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there? |
Light weight composite boats
Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there?
Famed performance dinghy designer Uffa Fox wrote, "Weight belongs in steam rollers". Lighter is faster. Of course if your requirements are sailing heavily laden through major tropical depressions... Alexander Meller |
Light weight composite boats
in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while
reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort. Alexander A. Meller ) writes: Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there? Famed performance dinghy designer Uffa Fox wrote, "Weight belongs in steam rollers". Lighter is faster. Of course if your requirements are sailing heavily laden through major tropical depressions... Alexander Meller -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
Light weight composite boats
"JAG JR" wrote in message ...
Anybody have any experience/built one oft these lightweight composite boats (plans) on the web now? Just wondereing how they compare to heavier boats in a sea/wind? Also in a breeze/tide while docking? Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there? Can you be a little more specific? What composite, what size and type vessel, boating conditions? There are lot's of composites on the web, from plastic bags, to sglass and foam. Scotty from Small(composite)boats.com |
Light weight composite boats
I'm in the process of building a Javelin, it's a 14 composite
Australian/New Zealand skiff. I'm building mine using 4mm marine ply, Fiberglass and Kevlar. a finished hull should weigh about 80kg. Plans are free but not on the web, yet. If your interested I have some construction images I could send you. Kevin |
Light weight composite boats
A friend of mine builds composite power catamarans
of PVC foam, glas fibre and epoxy resin. multihulls sailing performance is superb. of monohulls i don't know. regards bert ottens "William R. Watt" schreef in bericht ... in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort. Alexander A. Meller ) writes: Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there? Famed performance dinghy designer Uffa Fox wrote, "Weight belongs in steam rollers". Lighter is faster. Of course if your requirements are sailing heavily laden through major tropical depressions... Alexander Meller -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
Light weight composite boats
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:20:02 GMT, "JAG JR"
wrote: Anybody have any experience/built one oft these lightweight composite boats (plans) on the web now? Just wondereing how they compare to heavier boats in a sea/wind? Also in a breeze/tide while docking? Seems like sailors prefer a little weight. Am I wrong there? Wrong as a generalization. Weight at the bottom of the keel is good in a ballasted boat. In a high-performance CB boat any weight is bad. The crew is the ballast. Excess weight in the structure takes away from the possible ballast and carrying capacity, so that is bad too, in any boat. But keeping the structural strength while reducing structural weight costs money. Rodney Myrvaagnes Opionated old geezer Faith-based economics: It's deja voodoo all over again |
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Light weight composite boats
Rick Tyler wrote in message . ..
On 20 Oct 2003 12:59:30 GMT, (William R. Watt) wrote: in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort. I wish I could remember who it was for sure -- it might have been Phil Bolger -- who wrote that the worst chair in your house is more comfortable than the best seat in your boat. - Rick Tyler In the very beginning I thought this may be a troll, due to the timing and the conversations going on with the offset traditionl framework guy ;). Seems we may have been suckered in here... Scotty |
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Light weight composite boats
No , I'm not a troll and it took some seconds before I think I know what you
mean by "troll". Please have some faith in the "goodness of mankind". Are you afraid of the dark? Do you see UFO's up in the sky, do you see Black Helicopters flying overhead? Relax a little, you'll live much longer!! I won't name the site where the boats that I'm interested in are catalogued. But I've already been contacted by a couple of the above posters and they have purchased plans from the designer I'm interested in. Since I gave you my email address, why not send me a message like these fellows did instead of calling me a "troll"? The problem with these boards is you guys are all either self professed experts or nuts who have persecution complexes. Pour yourself a scotch or something. Boatbuilding is supposed to be fun!! You guys are too. too!!! serious!! Best regards, JAG JR "Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... Rick Tyler wrote in message . .. On 20 Oct 2003 12:59:30 GMT, (William R. Watt) wrote: in monohull sail boats, up to a point, weight adds to comfort while reducing speed. although sailing could not be called comfortable compared to other forms of transportation, one can attempt to reduce the discomfort. I wish I could remember who it was for sure -- it might have been Phil Bolger -- who wrote that the worst chair in your house is more comfortable than the best seat in your boat. - Rick Tyler In the very beginning I thought this may be a troll, due to the timing and the conversations going on with the offset traditionl framework guy ;). Seems we may have been suckered in here... Scotty |
Light weight composite boats
"JAG JR" wrote in message ...
No , I'm not a troll and it took some seconds before I think I know what you mean by "troll". Please have some faith in the "goodness of mankind". Are you afraid of the dark? Do you see UFO's up in the sky, do you see Black Helicopters flying overhead? Relax a little, you'll live much longer!! I won't name the site where the boats that I'm interested in are catalogued. But I've already been contacted by a couple of the above posters and they have purchased plans from the designer I'm interested in. Since I gave you my email address, why not send me a message like these fellows did instead of calling me a "troll"? The problem with these boards is you guys are all either self professed experts or nuts who have persecution complexes. Pour yourself a scotch or something. Boatbuilding is supposed to be fun!! You guys are too. too!!! serious!! Best regards, JAG JR You should take a scotch yourself. I did not rip you a new butt (yell at you). I did not get nasty at all, just made a suggestion based on experience and an ongoing war on this group by a certain designer from Europe has left a few of us a little jumpy. I am certainly glad you got the information you needed, maybe you could have posted that earlier and let us know that our input was of some help, and that you were following the thread as we added our input. Hope you have a good build. Scotty from SmallBoats.com |
Light weight composite boats
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:20:34 GMT, "JAG JR"
wrote something .......and in reply I say!: No , I'm not a troll and it took some seconds before I think I know what you mean by "troll". OK. NUff sed! The rest was ranting. Relax a little, you'll live much longer!! Precisely. Now. OK. You are not a troll. Good. There are plenty about. Lightweight (multihull and non-keel) boats will always want to tbe lighter. Lighter is faster. Having said that, a large, light multi is a lot harder to handle in enclosed areas in a breeze(less inertia), for instance when coming upwind to a mooring etc. Even a heavy boat will benefit from lightweight technology _if it is as strong by technique and design_!!! because you can then place weight exactly where you want it, and add strength where it's needed. ************************************************** **************************************** Whenever you have to prove to yourself that you are not something, you probably are. Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music remove ns from my header address to reply via email !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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