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Jane
 
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I'm going to replace the faucets in my galley and 2 heads. I did this
12 years ago and they look bad again, especially the 2 in the lav
sinks in the heads - corroded, pitted.

Any idea how the colored (painted?) units hold up in a salt water
boat. Thick chrome on brass lasts well, but bathroom faucets seems to
be made of junk metal.

I will not buy expensive "marine" faucets - just good quality home
units from Delta, Moen, whatever.


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Peggie Hall
 
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Jane wrote:
I'm going to replace the faucets in my galley and 2 heads. I did this
12 years ago and they look bad again, especially the 2 in the lav
sinks in the heads - corroded, pitted.

Any idea how the colored (painted?) units hold up in a salt water
boat. Thick chrome on brass lasts well, but bathroom faucets seems to
be made of junk metal.

I will not buy expensive "marine" faucets - just good quality home
units from Delta, Moen, whatever.


No reason you should have to...faucets are faucets. Go to Home Depot (or
equvilant) and pick out what you like.

Peggie
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

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Stephen Baker
 
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Jane says:

I will not buy expensive "marine" faucets - just good quality home
units from Delta, Moen, whatever.


But if you buy the marine units, you shouldn't need to replace them every
decade or so - there is a reason why some stuff is expensive; it is built for
its intended use.

Steve-
Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer
http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm
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Ed Edelenbos
 
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Pretty often, if you go to a "real" plumbing supply house, you can find
high quality faucets (i.e. chrome plated brass or straight brass) and
such which will hold up better in a marine environment. Pretty much
same quality but not packaged for "marine use". It depends on what your
cosmetic needs are also... a (reasonable quality metal) utility sink
faucet will hold up pretty good. OTOH, some of the all plastic faucets
made these days (and coated with a fake chrome) will hold up as good as
the good metal ones... except they are not as solid. It takes less of
a bump to break them.

Ed

steveb wrote:
ospam (Stephen Baker) lifted the trapdoor, peered around
and wrote:


But if you buy the marine units, you shouldn't need to replace them every
decade or so - there is a reason why some stuff is expensive; it is built for
its intended use.



Sometimes this is true. Sometimes the higher price reflects the additional
marketing burden required to shift small quantities of niche products. And
sometimes it is simply overpriced.

steveb




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Brian D
 
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Doesn't anybody make 18-8, 316, or at least chrome plated bronze (I assume
you can chrome plate bronze) faucets and plumbing for the marine world???
Either it's a gross oversight on industry's part or a gross ignorance
problem on my part ....who can really tell?

Brian

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"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
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Pretty often, if you go to a "real" plumbing supply house, you can find
high quality faucets (i.e. chrome plated brass or straight brass) and
such which will hold up better in a marine environment. Pretty much
same quality but not packaged for "marine use". It depends on what your
cosmetic needs are also... a (reasonable quality metal) utility sink
faucet will hold up pretty good. OTOH, some of the all plastic faucets
made these days (and coated with a fake chrome) will hold up as good as
the good metal ones... except they are not as solid. It takes less of
a bump to break them.

Ed

steveb wrote:
ospam (Stephen Baker) lifted the trapdoor, peered

around
and wrote:


But if you buy the marine units, you shouldn't need to replace them

every
decade or so - there is a reason why some stuff is expensive; it is

built for
its intended use.



Sometimes this is true. Sometimes the higher price reflects the

additional
marketing burden required to shift small quantities of niche products.

And
sometimes it is simply overpriced.

steveb




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Peggie Hall
 
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Brian D wrote:
Doesn't anybody make 18-8, 316, or at least chrome plated bronze (I assume
you can chrome plate bronze) faucets and plumbing for the marine world???
Either it's a gross oversight on industry's part or a gross ignorance
problem on my part ....who can really tell?


When you consider that there are only about 12 million boats in the
whole country, that 95% of them are too small to need any faucets, that
50% of boats are in fresh water where salt water corrosion--and
therefore the need for replacements--isn't an issue...and that 95% of
those owners who do need replacements only want the cheapest thing they
can find...that doesn't leave much of a market for high end "marine
grade" replacement faucets.

We sometimes tend to forget how really minsicule the boat market is when
compared to the market for houses, public buildings, cars etc. The cost
of just reaching owners to let them know you have a high end marine
product can be prohibitive, never mind the extra mfr'g costs.


Peggie
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

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Jim Woodward
 
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You actually plate chrome over nickel over bronze. This is the
absolutely standard way of using chrome plate. The problem is, the
base metal doesn't have to be bronze, it can be pot metal (cheap zinc
alloy) which will pit and corrode after a while.

And, BTW, nickel is in many ways more satisfactory than chrome on top.
It's not quite as "bright", but lasts longer.

We tend to have a "has to be marine" attitude. Next time you're at a
boat show, go aboard a Swan (I would say they're the finest of
production boats, but as an ex-owner, I'm predjudiced). Look at the
bath and kitchen fittings, cabinet hardware, doorknobs, and so forth.
You'll find them all at good home stores.

Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com

"Brian D" wrote in message news:Z6Hfb.38714$%h1.26889@sccrnsc02...
Doesn't anybody make 18-8, 316, or at least chrome plated bronze (I assume
you can chrome plate bronze) faucets and plumbing for the marine world???
Either it's a gross oversight on industry's part or a gross ignorance
problem on my part ....who can really tell?

Brian

--
My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
Pretty often, if you go to a "real" plumbing supply house, you can find
high quality faucets (i.e. chrome plated brass or straight brass) and
such which will hold up better in a marine environment. Pretty much
same quality but not packaged for "marine use". It depends on what your
cosmetic needs are also... a (reasonable quality metal) utility sink
faucet will hold up pretty good. OTOH, some of the all plastic faucets
made these days (and coated with a fake chrome) will hold up as good as
the good metal ones... except they are not as solid. It takes less of
a bump to break them.

Ed

steveb wrote:
ospam (Stephen Baker) lifted the trapdoor, peered

around
and wrote:


But if you buy the marine units, you shouldn't need to replace them

every
decade or so - there is a reason why some stuff is expensive; it is

built for
its intended use.


Sometimes this is true. Sometimes the higher price reflects the

additional
marketing burden required to shift small quantities of niche products.

And
sometimes it is simply overpriced.

steveb


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Glenn Ashmore
 
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T'aint necessarily so. I ordered some premium grade Scanvik faucets and
shower set single knob mixer valves recently. Took one out of the box
and sent them all back. They did not look as well made as the Moen's I
can get at Home Despot for 1/3 less money. The only things I kept was
the shower wands because they have the locking button valve on the head.

Stephen Baker wrote:
Jane says:


I will not buy expensive "marine" faucets - just good quality home
units from Delta, Moen, whatever.



But if you buy the marine units, you shouldn't need to replace them every
decade or so - there is a reason why some stuff is expensive; it is built for
its intended use.

Steve-
Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer
http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm



--
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I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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Dave
 
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For what its worth...

Most of the professional plumbers I know prefer Moen over Delta by a long
shot.



D





"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
T'aint necessarily so. I ordered some premium grade Scanvik faucets and
shower set single knob mixer valves recently. Took one out of the box
and sent them all back. They did not look as well made as the Moen's I
can get at Home Despot for 1/3 less money. The only things I kept was
the shower wands because they have the locking button valve on the head.

Stephen Baker wrote:
Jane says:


I will not buy expensive "marine" faucets - just good quality home
units from Delta, Moen, whatever.



But if you buy the marine units, you shouldn't need to replace them

every
decade or so - there is a reason why some stuff is expensive; it is

built for
its intended use.

Steve-
Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer
http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com





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