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I recently aquired an 86 Sea Ray 230 weekender from my Brother.The gas in the
tank is over a year old.Stablizer was added last summer and there is approx. 20
gal in a 50 gal tank.I recently replaced the impeller in the Alpha one outdrive
and have made the adjustments to the shift cable. I also added MDR start fresh
to the tankThe engine has 230 hrs on it and starts right up but runs rough I
have a problem stalling opon shifting in and out of gear. Could it be the poor
gas quality and if so can i fillup with high test to run it through.Any
sugestions...Thaks Rob Haas
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I'd find the local regulations for getting rid of the old gas and pump
it out and put in fresh gas. After 6-9 mo., (esp. in a partially filled
tank) it is (IMO) unuseable. Well, for engines... it makes dandy
cleaner for paint brushes and in small amounts at a time, great starter
for bonfires. My dad (who I love dearly but is getting older and a
little more stubborn) was having a hell of a time with his outboard.
Wouldn't start, coughed a bit, etc. Finally I convinced him to go get a
new tank and hose. It started on the 2nd pull. It's hard to say which
part was the culprit, but for a mere $50 ($30 tank, $15 hose, $5 gas
approx.) it is done. He can go out on his boat again.

Ed

FINNATTIC wrote:
I recently aquired an 86 Sea Ray 230 weekender from my Brother.The gas in the
tank is over a year old.Stablizer was added last summer and there is approx. 20
gal in a 50 gal tank.I recently replaced the impeller in the Alpha one outdrive
and have made the adjustments to the shift cable. I also added MDR start fresh
to the tankThe engine has 230 hrs on it and starts right up but runs rough I
have a problem stalling opon shifting in and out of gear. Could it be the poor
gas quality and if so can i fillup with high test to run it through.Any
sugestions...Thaks Rob Haas


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On 26 Jul 2003 12:47:17 GMT, (FINNATTIC) wrote:

I recently aquired an 86 Sea Ray 230 weekender from my Brother.The gas in the
tank is over a year old.Stablizer was added last summer and there is approx. 20
gal in a 50 gal tank.I recently replaced the impeller in the Alpha one outdrive
and have made the adjustments to the shift cable. I also added MDR start fresh
to the tankThe engine has 230 hrs on it and starts right up but runs rough I
have a problem stalling opon shifting in and out of gear. Could it be the poor
gas quality and if so can i fillup with high test to run it through.Any
sugestions...Thaks Rob Haas



Test for sure.
Carefully, bypass the main tank, with a hose into a gallon of fresh
stuff. Then you will know for sure.

But before I venture to blame the carb, or gas.
I look at the human side first and any recent alterations. As you
could have upset the balance and you need to do some adjustments.
Your shifting in and out - may not quite be right.
I would just push up the idle setting first.
Check plugs and timing
If its not that - and your plugs tell you have a mixture problem?


Then - the carb, either has gunk, air leak, needs adjustment. - The
idle jet side sounds okay - but the accelerator pump on the main jet
side seems to have a problem -
And or you are starting on the choke - once it warms up your idle
setting is too low. So check for faulty choke.

You can slide piece of something over the intake, ( to cut off the
air) and then listen - if it dies out as you gradually slide over -
its okay - but if it accelerates - or carries on you got an air leak.

But check the easy stuff first - I hate pulling carbs apart, its last
resort once I know for sure, what it is I am looking for.
Normally I get away with just squirting stuff in them, and fiddling
with that secondary side pump, and or its usually something else.




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On 26 Jul 2003 12:47:17 GMT, (FINNATTIC) wrote:

I recently aquired an 86 Sea Ray 230 weekender from my Brother.The gas in the
tank is over a year old.Stablizer was added last summer and there is approx. 20
gal in a 50 gal tank.I recently replaced the impeller in the Alpha one outdrive
and have made the adjustments to the shift cable. I also added MDR start fresh
to the tankThe engine has 230 hrs on it and starts right up but runs rough I
have a problem stalling opon shifting in and out of gear. Could it be the poor
gas quality and if so can i fillup with high test to run it through.Any
sugestions...Thaks Rob Haas


Hi Rob,

We had a similar problem, but never had a single hesitation or sputter
from our gas, and it was about 7 or 8 years old!

Bought the boat with a full tank, and I know from a note left onboard
that Stabil was added. We siphoned off half of a full 50 gallon tank,
and replaced it with fresh, added some lead substitute, a little
Marvel Mystery oil, (as per my mechanics preferences and suggestion),
and a little Stabil, just in case.

Not only did it start right up, but never, and I'm serious, NEVER
hesitated or sputtered in the least.

My 2 cents: gas will last almost indefinitely if properly prepared,
and the tank is absolutely topped off before she sits.

I would suggest a good Racor fuel filter to catch that water before it
gets to the carb, emptied and/or changed often until you burn up the
old stuff.

If your carb has sat awhile, it might need a rebuild like ours did,
but you can get the parts at Napa, or any auto parts store, just make
sure it's the marine quality kit, as I think there's a difference in
the gasket material. Any good speed or hot rod shop can rebuild it for
you.

Hope I helped,
Donny



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