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![]() "Mac" wrote in message news ![]() If you go this route, consider having the core cut by the folks at flyingfoam.com. They are in business to cut wings for RC gliders and airplanes, but a core is a core. --Mac http://philsfoils.com/ is reported to do this sort of thing for dinghies and multihulls. Probably cost-justified only if you're serious about racing. |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:42:15 -0400, Jim Conlin wrote:
"Mac" wrote in message news ![]() If you go this route, consider having the core cut by the folks at flyingfoam.com. They are in business to cut wings for RC gliders and airplanes, but a core is a core. --Mac http://philsfoils.com/ is reported to do this sort of thing for dinghies and multihulls. Probably cost-justified only if you're serious about racing. [snipped HTML] Cool, I didn't know about philsfoils. But I don't think that flyingfoam is very expensive. I got a quote from them once, but I don't remember the details. Then again, I don't have a lot of free time, so what seems reasonable to me might seem expensive to others. --Mac |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:11:16 GMT, "Toller" wrote:
My mahogany dagger board was damaged when I bought the boat used. I glued it with epoxy and put some fiberglass around it and it has held up for a few years, but I don't think it will last. I bought some 8/4 white oak on ebay for almost nothing (100bf for $1.25), and figured I will build a new daggerboard while I had something intact to copy. The blank is 44" long, 2" thick, and 15" wide. It weights 35 pounds. I originally intended to cut the corners off on my table saw, but it is so heavy that it doesn't seem particularly safe. So, I have been going at it with my 3" belt sander and my 2" power planer. Both would work, but they would take hours and hours of work. Any suggestions for a good way to shape my blank into an airfoil shape? I am thinking of buying a better planer, but hope someone here will be resourceful. I congratulate you on eliciting a wonderfully practical, innovative, and helpful thread. Even the most radical contributions ("Don't use oak!") were well-meant. Notice that suggestion of using a wood carve blade in a circular saw? Wow! Wood propeller carvers use a router in a kind of copier frame, profiling an existing fair copy of the blade. I notice the respect given to mahogany on the traditional end, but also the foam core glass or carbon approach at the leading edge end. Iobserve in passing that the center board on the SouthCoast 22 I am preparing, is a hefty chunk of iron - its weight so low down is of course desirable - but that has a wind up hoist. Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:11:16 +0000, Toller wrote:
My mahogany dagger board was damaged when I bought the boat used. I glued it with epoxy and put some fiberglass around it and it has held up for a few years, but I don't think it will last. I bought some 8/4 white oak on ebay for almost nothing (100bf for $1.25), and figured I will build a new daggerboard while I had something intact to copy. The blank is 44" long, 2" thick, and 15" wide. It weights 35 pounds. I originally intended to cut the corners off on my table saw, but it is so heavy that it doesn't seem particularly safe. So, I have been going at it with my 3" belt sander and my 2" power planer. Both would work, but they would take hours and hours of work. Any suggestions for a good way to shape my blank into an airfoil shape? I am thinking of buying a better planer, but hope someone here will be resourceful. Several people have suggested finding NACA foil software. If you don't want to do that, I would be happy to calculate the coordinates for you and post them here. I would need to know the desired thickness of the foil (at its thickest point), and the chord length (fore and aft extent of the daggerboard). I am assuming that the daggerboard is basically rectangular when viewed from the side. --Mac |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:44:33 +0000, Mac wrote:
Several people have suggested finding NACA foil software. If you don't want to do that, I would be happy to calculate the coordinates for you and post them here. I would need to know the desired thickness of the foil (at its thickest point), and the chord length (fore and aft extent of the daggerboard). Or go he http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/ads.html for free section coordinates. /Martin |
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I bought a good 3.5" power planer and cut it down in 30 minutes. I used a
belt sander to smooth the lines out, and a router table to radius the front and back. Tomorrow I will see if it fits. (the boat is 30 miles away, with no electricity) Since oak is 40% heavier than mahogany and the finished oak board is only 20% heavier than the mahogany board, I must have made it thinner than I intended; but since oak is also 50% stronger than mahogany, that shouldn't matter. It may not be a perfect mathematical airfoil, but it is pretty close to the (unpracticed) eye. |
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![]() .. I must have made it thinner than I intended; but since oak is also 50% stronger than mahogany, that shouldn't matter. maybe, maybe not. if it's too thin for the slot it can vibrate while sailing. you can always build it up with a fibreglass coating to make it fit better. with wood you can always take more off, but you can't put it back on. that's what fibreglass is for, although it makes the product heavier. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-FreeNet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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"William R. Watt" wrote in message
... with wood you can always take more off, but you can't put it back on. A carpenter is a whittler who knows when to quit. Ed |
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"Ed Edelenbos" wrote: "William R. Watt" wrote in message ... with wood you can always take more off, but you can't put it back on. A carpenter is a whittler who knows when to quit. Ed a "journeyman" is a guy who knows how to fix his fux ups. if wood is going near water, it needs several coats of epoxy. read directions about application and secondary bonding. fiberglass cloth is imbedded in wet epoxy using paint brush and squeegee. see directions for weight of cloth and radius of corners glassed over. second and third coats of epoxy/filler yield smooth surface and built up(squared) corners. good luck. |
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"mac" wrote in message
... In article , "Ed Edelenbos" wrote: "William R. Watt" wrote in message ... with wood you can always take more off, but you can't put it back on. A carpenter is a whittler who knows when to quit. Ed a "journeyman" is a guy who knows how to fix his fux ups. if wood is going near water, it needs several coats of epoxy. read directions about application and secondary bonding. fiberglass cloth is imbedded in wet epoxy using paint brush and squeegee. see directions for weight of cloth and radius of corners glassed over. second and third coats of epoxy/filler yield smooth surface and built up(squared) corners. good luck. Hmmm.... in a word... bullhockey. There is a chance that a bit less maintainance will be needed but epoxy is hardly a necessity. Epoxy is no guarantee of seaworthiness or durability. Ed |
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