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Is the Bar Rust significantly more durable in it's rust prevention ?
Since I'm planning on scaling anyway, if I can then apply something significantly more durable, I'd prefer to do so :-) Cordially, Courtney habbi wrote: Why would you want to put epoxy resin over it? If you want an 2 part epoxy rust paint for steel use Bar Rust 235 from Devoe Coatings. It is excellent but the OP wanted something simple. "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:47:35 GMT, "habbi" wrote: I have tried a lot of products over the years and the best I found and the easiest to use and clean up is called "Blue Steel" ===================================== Do you know if epoxy resin will adhere to it? -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 |
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Courtney Thomas wrote:
Thanks Paul. Do you then paint over the Aluthane ? YES YOU CAN THEN PAINT OVER THE ALUTHANE OR LEAVE IT AS THE ATTRACTIVE SILVERY COLOR IT IS (I HAVE HEARD OF A METAL BRIDGE THAT WAS PAINTED WITH EPOXY AND THEN THE ALUTHANE TO GIVE IT BACK THAT GALVANIZED METAL BRIDGE LOOK. How do the moisture cured urethanes work ? THE APPEAR TO BE ONE PART BUT ACTUALLY TAKE MOISTURE FROM THE AIR TO CURE - I THINK THIS SWELLS UP THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE THUS FORMING A DEFECT FREE SURFACE. THEY ARE COMMONLY USED BY CONTRACTORS ON SURFACES THAT THEY CANNOT PREPARE 'PERFECTLY' WHICH USUALLY MEANS SAND BLASTING. THE ALUMINUM IN THE ALUTHANE IS TINY PLATS THAT APPEAR TO STACK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER THUS FORMING A VERY TOUGH NON POROUS SURFACE. Is there any particular advantage to this urethane, i.e. does it actually interact with the steel to provide anything more than a mechanical bond, like all other coatings with which I'm familiar ? IT BONDS LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE TO WOOD, METAL, FIBERGLASS. AS PROOF, SPILL A BIT IN THE RIM OF THE CAN YOU YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE LID OFF IN ANY WAY SHORT OF PUNCHING A HOLE IN IT. IF YOU GET IT ON YOUR SKIN AND DON'T REMOVE IMMEDIATELY WITH SOLVENT, ITS THERE FOR A FEW DAYS... A QUART WILL COVER ABOUT 100 SQUARE FEET. Do you sell it and if yes, what's it cost, please ? THIS ISN'T A COMMERICAL SITE. I'VE TRIED HARD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND NOT MAKE ANY SORT OF COMMERCIAL PLUG HERE WHICH UPSETS EVERYONE INCLUDING ME! SEARCH THE WEB WITH GOOGLE AND YOU SHOULD FIND IT. PAUL Gratefully, Courtney Paul Oman wrote: Moisture cured urethanes - such as the aluminum filled Aluthane - will make it look like a freshly galvanize trailer. paul oman progressive epoxy polymers Bob Swarts "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Looking for the simplest, least expensive way to rust inhibit and refinish a [steel] sailboat trailer, after rust descaling. If it matters, I'm thinking of doing this incrementally. It's 45' long. Gratefully, Courtney -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 -- |
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Rustmort is a rust converter (turns in into a hard, black substance). It is
available at most hardware/home building/paint stores. I don't know the current price. I bought a gallon several years ago and am still using it. I treated my Hobie trailer with Rustmort/Rustoleum primer/Rustoleum paint two years ago. Still looks new. Not sure there is a "good price" on zinc chromate. I also haven't tried it, but Paul Oman has given me excellent advice in the past, so I'd consider his approach also. BS "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Thank you for your reply. What is Rust Mort ? Where do you get it and what does it cost ? Where did you find a good price on zinc chromate ? I don't know if it's a different product now, but when I was a kid I was required to paint all kinds of metal with Rustoleum and the results were lousy. It didn't seem to prevent rust at all. Comments ? Cordially, Courtney Robert or Karen Swarts wrote: Slather it in Rust Mort. Prime with zinc chromate. Paint the color of your choice. Even easier, prime with Rustoleum rusty metal primer and paint with Rustoleum color of your choice. Bob Swarts "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Looking for the simplest, least expensive way to rust inhibit and refinish a [steel] sailboat trailer, after rust descaling. If it matters, I'm thinking of doing this incrementally. It's 45' long. Gratefully, Courtney -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 |
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It's parent company is ICI
http://www.icipaints.com/Home/Jsp/indexflash.htm http://www.devoecoatings.com/ I found the best way to apply is to get 2 different colors and apply each coat a different color and then you know you are getting a complete coat. I use it Around salt water with 4-5 coats and it is excellent. "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:20:57 GMT, "habbi" wrote: Why would you want to put epoxy resin over it? If you want an 2 part epoxy rust paint for steel use Bar Rust 235 from Devoe Coatings. It is excellent but the OP wanted something simple. ================================================= I want a rust inhibiting and adhesion layer for subsequent glass lay up (reinforcment and leak control). "Bar Rust" looks like a NZ product, do you know if they sell in the US? Could not find any US distributors online so far. |
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Yes, but the key is the number of coats. When I first used it I only put on
1 coat but after a year it started to rust. Since then I usually put on 4 coats and it shows no sign of corrosion at all. It is very wear resistant as well. Also if there is a chip from it being hit very hard and the paint comes off to the metal. The rust will not spread under the unaffected area. "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Is the Bar Rust significantly more durable in it's rust prevention ? Since I'm planning on scaling anyway, if I can then apply something significantly more durable, I'd prefer to do so :-) Cordially, Courtney habbi wrote: Why would you want to put epoxy resin over it? If you want an 2 part epoxy rust paint for steel use Bar Rust 235 from Devoe Coatings. It is excellent but the OP wanted something simple. "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:47:35 GMT, "habbi" wrote: I have tried a lot of products over the years and the best I found and the easiest to use and clean up is called "Blue Steel" ===================================== Do you know if epoxy resin will adhere to it? -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 |
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I remove any loose rust with a wire brush and then apply with a paint brush.
It goes on milky white and then dries to a clear color but makes the steel underneath a blackish color. Make sure there is no grease or oil etc.. Wash the brush out with water. The difference I found with this and phosphoric acid is it leaves a hard clear coating when dry. "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Thank you for your reply. I have used a product that sounds similar that is basically phosphoric acid which costs about the same. I assume you are talking about the Blue Steel primer which is about $20/liter. How exactly do you use it, please ? Thanks, Courtney habbi wrote: I have tried a lot of products over the years and the best I found and the easiest to use and clean up is called "Blue Steel" I get it from below http://www.mermaidmarine.com/index.c...ductID=8930501 If that link won't work try www.mermaidmarine.com and then choose Boat care then Paint and then scroll down until you see Blue Steel. "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Looking for the simplest, least expensive way to rust inhibit and refinish a [steel] sailboat trailer, after rust descaling. If it matters, I'm thinking of doing this incrementally. It's 45' long. Gratefully, Courtney -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 |
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Sounds like Sophia, does the same thing and the active ingredient is
phosphoric acid. Good stuff. "Robert or Karen Swarts" wrote in message ... Rustmort is a rust converter (turns in into a hard, black substance). It is available at most hardware/home building/paint stores. I don't know the current price. I bought a gallon several years ago and am still using it. I treated my Hobie trailer with Rustmort/Rustoleum primer/Rustoleum paint two years ago. Still looks new. Not sure there is a "good price" on zinc chromate. I also haven't tried it, but Paul Oman has given me excellent advice in the past, so I'd consider his approach also. BS "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Thank you for your reply. What is Rust Mort ? Where do you get it and what does it cost ? Where did you find a good price on zinc chromate ? I don't know if it's a different product now, but when I was a kid I was required to paint all kinds of metal with Rustoleum and the results were lousy. It didn't seem to prevent rust at all. Comments ? Cordially, Courtney Robert or Karen Swarts wrote: Slather it in Rust Mort. Prime with zinc chromate. Paint the color of your choice. Even easier, prime with Rustoleum rusty metal primer and paint with Rustoleum color of your choice. Bob Swarts "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Looking for the simplest, least expensive way to rust inhibit and refinish a [steel] sailboat trailer, after rust descaling. If it matters, I'm thinking of doing this incrementally. It's 45' long. Gratefully, Courtney -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 |
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