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Most modern sailboats are not designed for fishing. You will probably find them not very comfortable or convenient. Back in the days when small sailboats were used for coastal fishing they were heavier and more stable with a interior layout for fishing. I'd search the Interent and books at the public library for descriptions of these fishing boats before deciding which plans avaiable now are most suitable. Today you could build a lighter, faster sailboat with a good interior layout for fishing. When people used to fish along the shore from rowboats and sailboats they depended a lot on the tide to carry them out and back. Sailboats are slow and weak compared to even small outboard motors. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-FreeNet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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William R. Watt wrote:
Most modern sailboats are not designed for fishing. You will probably find them not very comfortable or convenient. Back in the days when small sailboats were used for coastal fishing they were heavier and more stable with a interior layout for fishing. I'd search the Interent and books at the public library for descriptions of these fishing boats before deciding which plans avaiable now are most suitable. This is the main reason why I want to build a boat from scratch, So I can outfit it for fishing from the ground up. I spent a few months looking at used sailboats and while I saw a lot of great deals, I also saw a lot of tearing out and rebuilding to suit my needs. I've got a pretty good idea of what I need as far as layout. I don't need a lot of room, I just need certain things a certain way. Live bait well, rod racks and perhaps even two small outriggers. The speed of a sailing boat is nearly perfect for trolling. We've done some fishing from my friend's catamaran, the kind with a trampoline. I think it's called a hobi cat. We've had execllent luck trolling while under sail getting to the artifical reefs around the area. Today you could build a lighter, faster sailboat with a good interior layout for fishing. When people used to fish along the shore from rowboats and sailboats they depended a lot on the tide to carry them out and back. Sailboats are slow and weak compared to even small outboard motors. The reason I want a sailboat instead of a small motorbot is because I can't afford fuel. One day out in a motor cruiser can cost as much as $300 in fuel. This mixed with the fact that I'm not very good at fixing engines... I decided a small custombuild sailboat is where I need to be. I've nearly decided on the "The Vacationer" from the stevenson projects website. Of all the boats I looked at, this one seems like the one I can build everything myself, this includes keel, mast, and even the sails. It's a cutback from my sleeps 4 requirement, but I decided that if I build a towable, two can sleep in the van and two in the truck and if we're going camping, everyones gonna sleep on the beach anyway. It's also a cutback from my bluewater requirement, but I believe that with attention to important areas while building, it'll be fine for fairweather fishing near the coast. There are instructions to make it unsinkable. Some people have said they're a little topheavy, I'm planning on the weight of the batteries for the eletric motor will act as ballast. It's got a 75lb thrust MinnKota which has a 24v system, two big deep cycle batteries. And a third to run the bottom finder, radio, gps, and lights. I looked at some very nice boats from some of the links people posted. Thanks for the links, I visited them all. There were several boats from the old magazine websties which looked intriguing but none had as many on-line projects to fall back on when I'm having trouble. Of all the projects I looked at, the weekender is the most built boat, and the most documented boat on the internet. Next in line is the Voyager 23. But a 2 and a half year build time is daunting. I hope to be fishing by summertime. I really appreciate everyones advice. It's not too late to change my mind. If you're selling boat plans (or better yet giving them away), let me have a look at what you have to offer. I'm semi-retired, I sell flower seeds on the internet, so money (entire project cost) is also a major concern. You've all been so helpful. Enjoy! Cruise |
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:04:05 -0600,
(MrCruise) wrote: I've nearly decided on the "The Vacationer" from the stevenson projects website. Of all the boats I looked at, this one seems like the one I can build everything myself, this includes keel, mast, and even the sails. There are several people who have built the Vacationer at my web site, http://www.messing-about.com and a few who have added ballast. It helps the boat tremendously, especially if added up in the forepeak. There's also a few people who have taken the Pocket Cruiser and stretched it to 124%, and it ends up being a very roomy boat. For the amount of materials used, the PC is a more roomy boat (plumb bow, wide transom and the cat rig means the mast is far forward for more room in the cabin). The Stevenson Projects boats are fun boats, and simple to build. You can "camp out" in the cabin of the Vacationer OK, so with your modified "sleeps 4" requirement, you can do OK with it. Just remember that on any sail boat of this size, getting out to that reef 7 miles away is going to take you over an hour at full speed under sail (good wind, all that). Unlike a Hobie Cat, the Vacationer will never exceed its hull speed of about 6 - 7 knots (well, it can, but you will be "surfing down the face" and you don't want to go there). Several of the builders have used electric outboards, and they are OK if you are not trying to fight a current. They will push the boat at about 3 - 4 knots, so if there's no wind, figure 2+ hours out to the reef and back. If the gulf stream where you live is stronger than that, you won't make headway against it. But a small 2 - 3hp gas outboard will push the Vacationer at hull speed and do well. The guys "down under" who sail these really push them to their limits, dipping the rails in the water more on one sail than I do in a year of sailing. - - - http://www.messing-about.com Resources for the Boat Builder, Renovator and Small Boat Skipper |
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