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On Jan 25, 11:01*am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
Doug Fir is prone to rot and termites. Humm, I guess the dragger my step dad fished for decades was an anomaly. It was planked in Doug Fir as was every other NW work boat.... By the way, that boat was built in 1912 in Coos Bay, OR Last I heard it was crabing somplace in Northern CA. Doug Fir is great for planking So is Monterey Cyprus although a bit light for commercial boats.. I have a scraggly old one growing in my from yard. Prone to rot??? hog wash...................... I guess they just dont grow trees they way they use to. Bob |
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On Jan 25, 10:23 am, Gordon wrote:
Thinking of putting ratlines on my lower shrouds. Whats a good wood? Thinking maybe Doug fir. The first step will be a sheer pole. Up 16 inches will be a prestretched dacron rope rung. Another rope rung 16 inches up from that. Then a wood step, the 2 more ropes etc. Any thoughts? Gordon worm and parcel with the lay, turn and serve the other way. works with rat lines. putting a bunch of fire wood in the rigging just seems a waste. |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... On Jan 25, 11:01 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote: Doug Fir is prone to rot and termites. Humm, I guess the dragger my step dad fished for decades was an anomaly. It was planked in Doug Fir as was every other NW work boat.... By the way, that boat was built in 1912 in Coos Bay, OR Last I heard it was crabing somplace in Northern CA. Doug Fir is great for planking So is Monterey Cyprus although a bit light for commercial boats.. I have a scraggly old one growing in my from yard. Prone to rot??? hog wash...................... I guess they just dont grow trees they way they use to. Bob In all the tables I've ever seen, Doug Fir is rated low to moderate in rot resistance, while teak is rated as excellent. Work boats tend to be built for utility and economy, and are expected to be maintained on a regular basis. It's relatively inexpensive to replace a doug fir plank. And doug fir does have other properties that make it desireable for some boat construction purposes. Exposed to the weather just isn't one of them. Yes, I'm aware that it is sometimes used in deck planking. Where it doesn't last nearly as long as teak. |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... On Jan 25, 11:01 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote: Doug Fir is prone to rot and termites. Humm, I guess the dragger my step dad fished for decades was an anomaly. It was planked in Doug Fir as was every other NW work boat.... By the way, that boat was built in 1912 in Coos Bay, OR Last I heard it was crabing somplace in Northern CA. Doug Fir is great for planking So is Monterey Cyprus although a bit light for commercial boats.. I have a scraggly old one growing in my from yard. Prone to rot??? hog wash...................... I guess they just dont grow trees they way they use to. Bob I guess they don't, Bob. Up around my neighborhood (Port Townsend, WA) most of the boat shops won't do planking repairs with Doug Fir any more. They say they can't get good planking stock - too many pitch pockets and so forth. Tom Dacon |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message ... Thinking of putting ratlines on my lower shrouds. Whats a good wood? Thinking maybe Doug fir. The first step will be a sheer pole. Up 16 inches will be a prestretched dacron rope rung. Another rope rung 16 inches up from that. Then a wood step, the 2 more ropes etc. Any thoughts? Gordon Doug Fir is prone to rot and termites. Granted that termites would be a relatively insignificant problem, teak is still superior. Brian Toss gives a good outline of ratlines in his "Rigger's Apprentice," if memory serves. Which brings to mind a question... Is the U.S. still boycotting Burma teak? Richard |
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Alisdair Gurney wrote:
"Tom Dacon" wrote in message One problem to think about is chafe on the sails from the aft end of the wooden ratlines, when the sails are eased well off. Tom Dacon Baggywrinkles Alisdair Which give more windage. But if you follow Brion Toss' instructions (he really seem to be the authority on many rigging questions), you put the wooden lines between the shrouds, so that they do not protrude outside at all. And cover the ends with the lashing that keeps them in place. May still give a bit of chafe, but nowhere near as much as a stick left pointing out... -H |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message m... KLC Lewis wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Thinking of putting ratlines on my lower shrouds. Whats a good wood? Thinking maybe Doug fir. The first step will be a sheer pole. Up 16 inches will be a prestretched dacron rope rung. Another rope rung 16 inches up from that. Then a wood step, the 2 more ropes etc. Any thoughts? Gordon Doug Fir is prone to rot and termites. Granted that termites would be a relatively insignificant problem, teak is still superior. Brian Toss gives a good outline of ratlines in his "Rigger's Apprentice," if memory serves. Which brings to mind a question... Is the U.S. still boycotting Burma teak? Even if they were because it would seem a bit pointless anyway since Burma teak has been very hard to find for some time. ..Most of the teak now comes from elsewhere-mostly Thailand |
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"Edgar" wrote in message ... Even if they were because it would seem a bit pointless anyway since Burma teak has been very hard to find for some time. .Most of the teak now comes from elsewhere-mostly Thailand Also South America, where it is farmed. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Edgar" wrote in message ... Even if they were because it would seem a bit pointless anyway since Burma teak has been very hard to find for some time. .Most of the teak now comes from elsewhere-mostly Thailand Also South America, where it is farmed. I did not know that. It makes a good quid pro quo for the transport of S.American rubber plants now grown in Malaysia |
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"Edgar" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Edgar" wrote in message ... Even if they were because it would seem a bit pointless anyway since Burma teak has been very hard to find for some time. .Most of the teak now comes from elsewhere-mostly Thailand Also South America, where it is farmed. I did not know that. It makes a good quid pro quo for the transport of S.American rubber plants now grown in Malaysia It's that "Global Economy" at work, I guess. The South American trees are harvested between 20-40 years old, and I don't know how their quality compares with old-growth Asian teak, but I'd have to guess "poorly." Then again, I'm not an arborist. |
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