"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:18:22 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

NPR gets its funding from
actual people!

Do you have figures for the percentage that come from individuals, how
much
from advertising (which the NPR folks like to call corporate support), how
much from the generally left-leaning foundations, and how much from
gummint
broadcasting bureaucracies? I recall hearing that the latter category is
about 10%.


Do your own research!

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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:46:09 -0700, "Capt. JG" said:

NPR gets its funding from
actual people!
Do you have figures for the percentage that come from individuals, how
much
from advertising (which the NPR folks like to call corporate support), how
much from the generally left-leaning foundations, and how much from
gummint
broadcasting bureaucracies? I recall hearing that the latter category is
about 10%.

Do your own research!

So you made the assertion above with nothing to back you up?

Why not, you just did the same thing, "I recall hearing that the latter
category is about 10%", recall from where?

Although I personally have supported our PBS and NPR, even though they
are in another country, and have both watched and listened to many
pledge drives, so, yes I'm pretty damn certain that they get funding
from actual people.

Cheers
Marty

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:10:02 -0400, Marty said:

yes I'm pretty damn certain that they get funding
from actual people.

Ever notice who gets mentioned last when an NPR station talks about where
its funding comes from? While it's accurate to say they get some funding
from actual people, that statement is at best incomplete.


They get most of their funding from actual people, who are actually
breathing, who actually vote, who actually drive cars, which is at best an
incomplete statement.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:46:09 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

NPR gets its funding from
actual people!

Do you have figures for the percentage that come from individuals, how
much
from advertising (which the NPR folks like to call corporate support),
how
much from the generally left-leaning foundations, and how much from
gummint
broadcasting bureaucracies? I recall hearing that the latter category is
about 10%.


Do your own research!

So you made the assertion above with nothing to back you up?


I did my own research! Try it sometime.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:07:58 -0600, JimC said:

Actually,
anyone who has ever watched Ifil couldn't help but recognize her bias
for Obama.

Would you allow as how there might be a difference between being simply
biased and being biased and also having a big bet riding on the result? A
mortgage broker might be biased in favor of getting loans made to po'
folks.
But he's gonna try a lot harder to push that loan through if it earns him
a
big commission.


CNN Breaking News... Palin loses. Right-wingnuts blame Ifill!

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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:07:58 -0600, JimC said:

Actually,
anyone who has ever watched Ifil couldn't help but recognize her bias
for Obama.

Would you allow as how there might be a difference between being simply
biased and being biased and also having a big bet riding on the result? A
mortgage broker might be biased in favor of getting loans made to po' folks.
But he's gonna try a lot harder to push that loan through if it earns him a
big commission.

Dave, given your almost psychotically pessimistic attitude towards
others abilities to be fair and decent, I cannot fathom how you can
support capitalism. "Capitalism, the quaint notion that incredibly
nasty men will do the right thing", can't remember who said it.

Cheers
Marty

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:13:13 -0400, Marty said:

I cannot fathom how you can
support capitalism.

Take as a starting point Winston Churchill's description of democracy as
the
worst of all possible systems except...


You should probably stay away from quoting Churchill.... given what the Bush
Administration has been doing for the last 7 years.

"You might however consider whether you should not unfold as a background
the great privilege of habeas corpus and trial by jury, which are the
supreme protection invented by the English people for ordinary individuals
against the state. The power of the Executive to cast a man in prison
without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny
him the judgment of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the
foundation of all totalitarian government, whether Nazi or Communist."

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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:13:13 -0400, Marty said:

I cannot fathom how you can
support capitalism.

Take as a starting point Winston Churchill's description of democracy as the
worst of all possible systems except...


Democracy? I said nothing about that.

I have read a good deal of Churchill's writings. I am quite sure that
likening his concept of both capitalism and democracy to yours is
somewhat akin to likening the current US republic to that of ancient Greece.

Cheers
Marty

On 1 Oct 2008 22:42:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:23:51 -0400, Marty said:

I cannot fathom how you can
support capitalism.

Take as a starting point Winston Churchill's description of democracy as the
worst of all possible systems except...


Democracy? I said nothing about that.

I have read a good deal of Churchill's writings.

They must not have taken too well. This should have rung a bell with you.
Churchill famously described democracy as the worst of all forms of
government except for the available alternatives. See if you can apply that
to my views on capitalism.

Yes, you think like someone who has been dead for a long time.

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:07:58 -0600, JimC said:


Actually,
anyone who has ever watched Ifil couldn't help but recognize her bias
for Obama.


Would you allow as how there might be a difference between being simply
biased and being biased and also having a big bet riding on the result? A
mortgage broker might be biased in favor of getting loans made to po' folks.
But he's gonna try a lot harder to push that loan through if it earns him a
big commission.

Perhaps. But in my opinion, it's actually a windfall for Palin/MacCain.
- Ifil will be so careful that she will lean over backwards to avoid any
undue or excessive attacks on Sarah (essentially giving Sarah a pass).
Also, if Sarah is deemed to have lost the debate, their staff can always
blame the dishonest, unscrupulous liberal media. Those two words -
"liberal media" - are guaranteed to work magic with their constituency.

Jim