Capt. JG wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
...
I really doubt than any even half-way rational skipper would

consider taking a Mac offshore under such conditions (with the boat
overloaded, with several adults standing on the deck, with the skipper and
half the guests drunk, and with the ballast tank empty). It's an anomaly
that doesn't really relate to the present discussion.



Such conditions? Calm waters?

You are again evading the substance of my post, Ganz. "Calm waters" was
only one factor out of a number of more critical ones, including: drunk
skipper, negligent owner, drunk guests, ignorant skipper who wasn't
familiar with the boat, empty ballast tank (apparently not checked by
either the skipper or the owner), motoring at night under varying
lighting (fireworks) boat overloaded, boat top heavy with several drunk
adults standing on the deck, some apparently holding on to the mast, and
infants left in the cabin. Regarding the "calm waters" issue,
apparently the skipper was trying to maneuver around other boats also in
the area to watch the fireworks. In any event, he turned the boat at
excessive speed under the conditions.

Ganz, are you intentionally or maliciously distorting the points made in
my notes, or are you just stupid?

Jim

JimC wrote:

Ganz, are you intentionally or maliciously distorting the points made in
my notes, or are you just stupid?

Jim


Hold up, Jim.

You seem to be expecting rational behavior and fair treatment from the
creatures inhabiting this list.

They, on the other hand, are having fun making sport of you via your boat.

Drop it and go on and enjoy sailing.

Maybe the first cartoon here will help...
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/proof.htm


Richard
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cavelamb himself wrote:

JimC wrote:

Ganz, are you intentionally or maliciously distorting the points made
in my notes, or are you just stupid?

Jim



Hold up, Jim.

You seem to be expecting rational behavior and fair treatment from the
creatures inhabiting this list.

They, on the other hand, are having fun making sport of you via your boat.

Drop it and go on and enjoy sailing.

Maybe the first cartoon here will help...
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/proof.htm


Richard


Richard, yours is one of the few rational responses posted so far in
this string.

As you may have noted, I don't spend a lot of time in discussions of the
Macs on alt.sailing.asa. However, I sometimes think that the MacBashers
have been getting something of a free ride. - Few Mac owners seem to be
willing to stick up for their boats on this ng, and it doesn't seem
right that a boat as popular, versatile, and fun to sail as the Mac26
shouldn't be supported by at least some of their owners. Also, I sense
that it's something of a shock to some of the MacBashers when they get
their asses kicked.

If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't continue doing it.

Jim

wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:11:29 GMT, JimC wrote:
Richard, yours is one of the few rational responses posted so far in
this string.

As you may have noted, I don't spend a lot of time in discussions of the
Macs on alt.sailing.asa. However, I sometimes think that the MacBashers
have been getting something of a free ride. - Few Mac owners seem to be
willing to stick up for their boats on this ng, and it doesn't seem
right that a boat as popular, versatile, and fun to sail as the Mac26
shouldn't be supported by at least some of their owners. Also, I sense
that it's something of a shock to some of the MacBashers when they get
their asses kicked.

If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't continue doing it.

Jim

Anybody participating in this thread feel that Jim kicked their ass, or
anybody
else's? Just curious...

No, but my side hurts from laughing...

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wrote:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:11:29 GMT, JimC wrote:



cavelamb himself wrote:


JimC wrote:


Ganz, are you intentionally or maliciously distorting the points made
in my notes, or are you just stupid?

Jim



Hold up, Jim.

You seem to be expecting rational behavior and fair treatment from the
creatures inhabiting this list.

They, on the other hand, are having fun making sport of you via your boat.

Drop it and go on and enjoy sailing.

Maybe the first cartoon here will help...
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/proof.htm


Richard


Richard, yours is one of the few rational responses posted so far in
this string.

As you may have noted, I don't spend a lot of time in discussions of the
Macs on alt.sailing.asa. However, I sometimes think that the MacBashers
have been getting something of a free ride. - Few Mac owners seem to be
willing to stick up for their boats on this ng, and it doesn't seem
right that a boat as popular, versatile, and fun to sail as the Mac26
shouldn't be supported by at least some of their owners. Also, I sense
that it's something of a shock to some of the MacBashers when they get
their asses kicked.

If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't continue doing it.

Jim


Anybody participating in this thread feel that Jim kicked their ass, or anybody
else's? Just curious...

You should have worded that question as: "Is anyone participating in
this thread honest enough to admit he got his ass kicked?"

Admittedly, you wouldn't get many honest responses.

Jim

"JimC" wrote in message
...


wrote:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:11:29 GMT, JimC wrote:



cavelamb himself wrote:


JimC wrote:


Ganz, are you intentionally or maliciously distorting the points made
in my notes, or are you just stupid?

Jim



Hold up, Jim.

You seem to be expecting rational behavior and fair treatment from the
creatures inhabiting this list.

They, on the other hand, are having fun making sport of you via your
boat.

Drop it and go on and enjoy sailing.

Maybe the first cartoon here will help...
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/proof.htm


Richard


Richard, yours is one of the few rational responses posted so far in this
string.

As you may have noted, I don't spend a lot of time in discussions of the
Macs on alt.sailing.asa. However, I sometimes think that the MacBashers
have been getting something of a free ride. - Few Mac owners seem to be
willing to stick up for their boats on this ng, and it doesn't seem right
that a boat as popular, versatile, and fun to sail as the Mac26 shouldn't
be supported by at least some of their owners. Also, I sense that it's
something of a shock to some of the MacBashers when they get their asses
kicked.

If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't continue doing it.

Jim


Anybody participating in this thread feel that Jim kicked their ass, or
anybody
else's? Just curious...

You should have worded that question as: "Is anyone participating in this
thread honest enough to admit he got his ass kicked?"

Admittedly, you wouldn't get many honest responses.

Jim


I was being honest. My side hurts from laughing.

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www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message
.. .


Capt. JG wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
...
I really doubt than any even half-way rational skipper would

consider taking a Mac offshore under such conditions (with the boat
overloaded, with several adults standing on the deck, with the skipper
and half the guests drunk, and with the ballast tank empty). It's an
anomaly that doesn't really relate to the present discussion.



Such conditions? Calm waters?

You are again evading the substance of my post, Ganz. "Calm waters" was
only one factor out of a number of more critical ones, including: drunk
skipper, negligent owner, drunk guests, ignorant skipper who wasn't
familiar with the boat, empty ballast tank (apparently not checked by
either the skipper or the owner), motoring at night under varying lighting
(fireworks) boat overloaded, boat top heavy with several drunk adults
standing on the deck, some apparently holding on to the mast, and infants
left in the cabin. Regarding the "calm waters" issue, apparently the
skipper was trying to maneuver around other boats also in the area to
watch the fireworks. In any event, he turned the boat at excessive speed
under the conditions.

Ganz, are you intentionally or maliciously distorting the points made in
my notes, or are you just stupid?

Jim


I must be stupid to believe you take yourself so seriously. You're the best
troll ever!!


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