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I also saw that and assumed it was posted here. There's a pic of his
boat as well, plus it says he's not giving up on his plans. I do hope
that's the case. Joe walked the walk, while most losers here like Neal
and Crantz only pretended to be off shore sailors.

Joe walked the walk? Bwwahhahhahahahahahahahah! You could say he talked
the
talk and you'd be correct but walking the walk implies he was a blue
water
sailor and he demonstrate he was no such thing. Blue water sailors have
a
backbone and don't yell for rescue prematurely.

Since when do you call hanging from a helicopter rescue sling and
abandoning
a boat that was in no imminent danger of sinking walking the walk?
Sounds
more like a yellow belly crawling the crawl because he got scared! He
got
frightened like a little girl because of a cold front with winds
sustained
at 40 knots and gusting up to 50 and little ole 8 to 10 foot seas. What
a
loser! Blue water sailors know how to cope with such weather offshore
and
they aren't frightened out of their wits. Red Cloud's demise
demonstrates
how pathetic her so-called captain really is. Can you say girly man?

Wilbur Hubbard
(tells it like it is)




Yes, you're a girly man for sure.
Red Cloud was taking on water and the report says her cabin integrity
was also compromised. She couldn't be recovered because she did in
fact sink. Joe did what was right and protected the lives on board.
Most importantly you weren't there and Joe was. Joe took a chance and
was man enough to make an effort. All you do is bitch about from
behind your keyboard and pretend to be a man of the sea. You're not.
You're just a silly puppet boy who isn't even man enough to post his
real ID or a photo of his real boat. I guess you find it funny; I
hope, since it's super pathetic.
Hey, I teased Joe plenty, but when he actually cast off he deserved
respect. The only kind of man who won't give it to him isn't really a
man at all.

Dude, you should be ashamed of yourself. You're no better than Marty
because you don't know when to cool it, shut the **** up and be a man.



The Good Captain
35s5
NY


That's the trouble with you panty-waisted liberals. You equate trying with
success. Sorry, but trying is just trying. Success in trying PLUS
succeeding. Failure is trying PLUS failing. The captain of "RED CLOUD"
tried and failed. He is, by real-world definition, a failure!

But, go ahead and stick with your bankrupt and illogical philosophy. Since
you constantly try and fail you've got to come up with some excuse to make
that seem respectful. I suppose it's the only thing that works for you
liberals who are prime examples of failed girly men. You are needed as
examples of how NOT to do things so keep up the good work.

Wilbur Hubbard
(tells it like it is)



SMACKDOWN! A FLYING BODY SLAM FROM THE TOP ROPE FINISHED OFF BY A REVERSE
SUPLEX UNTIL SUBMISSION.

HARRY HARRIS


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On Apr 8, 6:11 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 4:46 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

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I also saw that and assumed it was posted here. There's a pic of his
boat as well, plus it says he's not giving up on his plans. I do hope
that's the case. Joe walked the walk, while most losers here like Neal
and Crantz only pretended to be off shore sailors.

Joe walked the walk? Bwwahhahhahahahahahahahah! You could say he talked
the
talk and you'd be correct but walking the walk implies he was a blue
water
sailor and he demonstrate he was no such thing. Blue water sailors have a
backbone and don't yell for rescue prematurely.

Since when do you call hanging from a helicopter rescue sling and
abandoning
a boat that was in no imminent danger of sinking walking the walk? Sounds
more like a yellow belly crawling the crawl because he got scared! He got
frightened like a little girl because of a cold front with winds
sustained
at 40 knots and gusting up to 50 and little ole 8 to 10 foot seas. What a
loser! Blue water sailors know how to cope with such weather offshore and
they aren't frightened out of their wits. Red Cloud's demise demonstrates
how pathetic her so-called captain really is. Can you say girly man?

Wilbur Hubbard
(tells it like it is)

Yes, you're a girly man for sure.
Red Cloud was taking on water and the report says her cabin integrity
was also compromised. She couldn't be recovered because she did in
fact sink. Joe did what was right and protected the lives on board.
Most importantly you weren't there and Joe was. Joe took a chance and
was man enough to make an effort. All you do is bitch about from
behind your keyboard and pretend to be a man of the sea. You're not.
You're just a silly puppet boy who isn't even man enough to post his
real ID or a photo of his real boat. I guess you find it funny; I
hope, since it's super pathetic.
Hey, I teased Joe plenty, but when he actually cast off he deserved
respect. The only kind of man who won't give it to him isn't really a
man at all.

Dude, you should be ashamed of yourself. You're no better than Marty
because you don't know when to cool it, shut the **** up and be a man.

The Good Captain
35s5
NY

That's the trouble with you panty-waisted liberals. You equate trying with
success. Sorry, but trying is just trying. Success in trying PLUS
succeeding. Failure is trying PLUS failing. The captain of "RED CLOUD" tried
and failed. He is, by real-world definition, a failure!

But, go ahead and stick with your bankrupt and illogical philosophy. Since
you constantly try and fail you've got to come up with some excuse to make
that seem respectful. I suppose it's the only thing that works for you
liberals who are prime examples of failed girly men. You are needed as
examples of how NOT to do things so keep up the good work.

Wilbur Hubbard
(tells it like it is)




And then there's you...A person who is a failure for lack of trying at
all. The only thing that would make you even more of a slime is by
attempting to critique those who DO try.
Oh...yeah. That IS you.


The Better Captain
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And then there's you...A person who is a failure for lack of trying at
all. The only thing that would make you even more of a slime is by
attempting to critique those who DO try.
Oh...yeah. That IS you.


There is something else that would make me more of a slime and that is if I
embraced and supported liberalism like you do. Voting for Hillary Clinton
are you? Or perhaps Barack Obama? And you have the nerve to call ME slime
when your role models define the word.

Again, try to get this simple point through your thick Neanderthal skull.
TRYING IS NOTHING IN AND OF ITSELF! Trying is simply a beginning.
Everything that is ever done begins with a try. Breathing begins with a try.
****ing begins with a try. Farting begins with a try. ****ting begins with a
try. Oh, how very noble is a try!

But you liberals, because you are so failure prone that almost everything
you try that is more complicated than a fart fails, have managed to talk
yourselves into believing that to try is something good and noble and an
accomplishment to be given kudos for. I suppose since you fail at most
everything you do the only kudos you ever get is from other liberals patting
you on the back when you fail while saying, "Good try, there buddy!" Keep up
the good work! At least you tried"

Can't you see what a load of crap that is? Trying in the real world is not
something that merits recognition. Trying and succeeding DOES. Trying and
failing DOES NOT. You wankstain liberals go around trying to warp the world
so those of you who can't succeed at a ****ing thing manage to feel good
about yourselves because at least you tried. If only you could see how
bankrupt that kind of thinking really is. But you can't because you're a
liberal and you don't think. You just feel. What a pathetic way to waste
your lives!

Wilbur Hubbard
(feels good about himself only when he succeeds which means he feels good
all the time)

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And then there's you...A person who is a failure for lack of trying at
all. The only thing that would make you even more of a slime is by
attempting to critique those who DO try.
Oh...yeah. That IS you.


There is something else that would make me more of a slime and that is if
I embraced and supported liberalism like you do. Voting for Hillary
Clinton are you? Or perhaps Barack Obama? And you have the nerve to call
ME slime when your role models define the word.

Again, try to get this simple point through your thick Neanderthal skull.
TRYING IS NOTHING IN AND OF ITSELF! Trying is simply a beginning.
Everything that is ever done begins with a try. Breathing begins with a
try. ****ing begins with a try. Farting begins with a try. ****ting begins
with a try. Oh, how very noble is a try!

But you liberals, because you are so failure prone that almost everything
you try that is more complicated than a fart fails, have managed to talk
yourselves into believing that to try is something good and noble and an
accomplishment to be given kudos for. I suppose since you fail at most
everything you do the only kudos you ever get is from other liberals
patting you on the back when you fail while saying, "Good try, there
buddy!" Keep up the good work! At least you tried"

Can't you see what a load of crap that is? Trying in the real world is not
something that merits recognition. Trying and succeeding DOES. Trying and
failing DOES NOT. You wankstain liberals go around trying to warp the
world so those of you who can't succeed at a ****ing thing manage to feel
good about yourselves because at least you tried. If only you could see
how bankrupt that kind of thinking really is. But you can't because you're
a liberal and you don't think. You just feel. What a pathetic way to waste
your lives!

Wilbur Hubbard
(feels good about himself only when he succeeds which means he feels good
all the time)

Boobie wants to be sure his kid gets a medal or a ribbon even when his team
finishes in last place.
Makes 'em feel good, ya know.

"Lee" wrote in message ...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...


And then there's you...A person who is a failure for lack of trying at
all. The only thing that would make you even more of a slime is by
attempting to critique those who DO try.
Oh...yeah. That IS you.


There is something else that would make me more of a slime and that is if
I embraced and supported liberalism like you do. Voting for Hillary
Clinton are you? Or perhaps Barack Obama? And you have the nerve to call
ME slime when your role models define the word.

Again, try to get this simple point through your thick Neanderthal skull.
TRYING IS NOTHING IN AND OF ITSELF! Trying is simply a beginning.
Everything that is ever done begins with a try. Breathing begins with a
try. ****ing begins with a try. Farting begins with a try. ****ting
begins with a try. Oh, how very noble is a try!

But you liberals, because you are so failure prone that almost everything
you try that is more complicated than a fart fails, have managed to talk
yourselves into believing that to try is something good and noble and an
accomplishment to be given kudos for. I suppose since you fail at most
everything you do the only kudos you ever get is from other liberals
patting you on the back when you fail while saying, "Good try, there
buddy!" Keep up the good work! At least you tried"

Can't you see what a load of crap that is? Trying in the real world is
not something that merits recognition. Trying and succeeding DOES. Trying
and failing DOES NOT. You wankstain liberals go around trying to warp the
world so those of you who can't succeed at a ****ing thing manage to feel
good about yourselves because at least you tried. If only you could see
how bankrupt that kind of thinking really is. But you can't because
you're a liberal and you don't think. You just feel. What a pathetic way
to waste your lives!

Wilbur Hubbard
(feels good about himself only when he succeeds which means he feels good
all the time)

Boobie wants to be sure his kid gets a medal or a ribbon even when his
team
finishes in last place.
Makes 'em feel good, ya know.



Good point. Liberals definitely DO set more store in feeling than in
thinking. After all, his kid deserves a ribbon or a medal because he tried .
.. . You just can't go around letting kids figure out that just trying ain't
crap. Trying and succeeding is an achievement, though. But you can't teach a
kid that because he'll FEEL badly about himself if he doesn't succeed.
Nothing's more important than feeling good about yourself even if it's based
on a lie.

How pitiful is that? Brainwashing a kid. Warping his young mind. Making it
impossible for the kid to ever become a man or understand manly things. It
borders on the criminal IMHO. Would that there were more MEN in this world!

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Lee" wrote in message ...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And then there's you...A person who is a failure for lack of trying at
all. The only thing that would make you even more of a slime is by
attempting to critique those who DO try.
Oh...yeah. That IS you.


There is something else that would make me more of a slime and that is if
I embraced and supported liberalism like you do. Voting for Hillary
Clinton are you? Or perhaps Barack Obama? And you have the nerve to call
ME slime when your role models define the word.

Again, try to get this simple point through your thick Neanderthal skull.
TRYING IS NOTHING IN AND OF ITSELF! Trying is simply a beginning.
Everything that is ever done begins with a try. Breathing begins with a
try. ****ing begins with a try. Farting begins with a try. ****ting
begins with a try. Oh, how very noble is a try!

But you liberals, because you are so failure prone that almost everything
you try that is more complicated than a fart fails, have managed to talk
yourselves into believing that to try is something good and noble and an
accomplishment to be given kudos for. I suppose since you fail at most
everything you do the only kudos you ever get is from other liberals
patting you on the back when you fail while saying, "Good try, there
buddy!" Keep up the good work! At least you tried"

Can't you see what a load of crap that is? Trying in the real world is
not something that merits recognition. Trying and succeeding DOES. Trying
and failing DOES NOT. You wankstain liberals go around trying to warp the
world so those of you who can't succeed at a ****ing thing manage to feel
good about yourselves because at least you tried. If only you could see
how bankrupt that kind of thinking really is. But you can't because
you're a liberal and you don't think. You just feel. What a pathetic way
to waste your lives!

Wilbur Hubbard
(feels good about himself only when he succeeds which means he feels good
all the time)


Boobie wants to be sure his kid gets a medal or a ribbon even when his
team
finishes in last place.
Makes 'em feel good, ya know.




Good point. Liberals definitely DO set more store in feeling than in
thinking. After all, his kid deserves a ribbon or a medal because he tried .
. . You just can't go around letting kids figure out that just trying ain't
crap. Trying and succeeding is an achievement, though. But you can't teach a
kid that because he'll FEEL badly about himself if he doesn't succeed.
Nothing's more important than feeling good about yourself even if it's based
on a lie.

How pitiful is that? Brainwashing a kid. Warping his young mind. Making it
impossible for the kid to ever become a man or understand manly things. It
borders on the criminal IMHO. Would that there were more MEN in this world!

Wilbur Hubbard


Neal (Wilbur), what's your problem? You are totally obsessed with Joe,
condemning him for his actions even though you weren't there, and even
though Joe isn't here to defend himself. Shouldn't you at least admit
that you actually DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, and that you
would need to let him fill in the blanks regarding this very unfortunate
incident (since he WAS there). After all, Joe made a decision based on
his concern for his crew, in light of the conditions and circumstances
at hand, and he did so despite the fact that his decision (and did)
result in his losing his boat. Don't you have at least the slightest
trace of empathy for Joe's loss, and at least some faint recognition of
his sacrifice? Once again, YOU WEREN'T THERE, were you? - He was.

Incidentally, as noted above, we are still waiting to see pictures of
your new boat, with you at the helm. - Or do you have a boat?
Incidentally, have you considered getting some professional help with
your condition?

Jim

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Lee" wrote in message ...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And then there's you...A person who is a failure for lack of trying at
all. The only thing that would make you even more of a slime is by
attempting to critique those who DO try.
Oh...yeah. That IS you.


There is something else that would make me more of a slime and that is
if I embraced and supported liberalism like you do. Voting for Hillary
Clinton are you? Or perhaps Barack Obama? And you have the nerve to call
ME slime when your role models define the word.

Again, try to get this simple point through your thick Neanderthal
skull. TRYING IS NOTHING IN AND OF ITSELF! Trying is simply a
beginning. Everything that is ever done begins with a try. Breathing
begins with a try. ****ing begins with a try. Farting begins with a try.
****ting begins with a try. Oh, how very noble is a try!

But you liberals, because you are so failure prone that almost
everything you try that is more complicated than a fart fails, have
managed to talk yourselves into believing that to try is something good
and noble and an accomplishment to be given kudos for. I suppose since
you fail at most everything you do the only kudos you ever get is from
other liberals patting you on the back when you fail while saying, "Good
try, there buddy!" Keep up the good work! At least you tried"

Can't you see what a load of crap that is? Trying in the real world is
not something that merits recognition. Trying and succeeding DOES.
Trying and failing DOES NOT. You wankstain liberals go around trying to
warp the world so those of you who can't succeed at a ****ing thing
manage to feel good about yourselves because at least you tried. If only
you could see how bankrupt that kind of thinking really is. But you
can't because you're a liberal and you don't think. You just feel. What
a pathetic way to waste your lives!

Wilbur Hubbard
(feels good about himself only when he succeeds which means he feels
good all the time)


Boobie wants to be sure his kid gets a medal or a ribbon even when his
team
finishes in last place.
Makes 'em feel good, ya know.




Good point. Liberals definitely DO set more store in feeling than in
thinking. After all, his kid deserves a ribbon or a medal because he
tried . . . You just can't go around letting kids figure out that just
trying ain't crap. Trying and succeeding is an achievement, though. But
you can't teach a kid that because he'll FEEL badly about himself if he
doesn't succeed. Nothing's more important than feeling good about
yourself even if it's based on a lie.

How pitiful is that? Brainwashing a kid. Warping his young mind. Making
it impossible for the kid to ever become a man or understand manly
things. It borders on the criminal IMHO. Would that there were more MEN
in this world!

Wilbur Hubbard


Neal (Wilbur), what's your problem? You are totally obsessed with Joe,
condemning him for his actions even though you weren't there, and even
though Joe isn't here to defend himself. Shouldn't you at least admit that
you actually DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, and that you would
need to let him fill in the blanks regarding this very unfortunate
incident (since he WAS there). After all, Joe made a decision based on his
concern for his crew, in light of the conditions and circumstances at
hand, and he did so despite the fact that his decision (and did) result in
his losing his boat. Don't you have at least the slightest trace of
empathy for Joe's loss, and at least some faint recognition of his
sacrifice? Once again, YOU WEREN'T THERE, were you? - He was.

Incidentally, as noted above, we are still waiting to see pictures of your
new boat, with you at the helm. - Or do you have a boat? Incidentally,
have you considered getting some professional help with your condition?

Jim

My dear fellow! If you could follow a thread you would be able to ascertain
that, in this thread, I was responding to a lame insult that Bobsprit the
pretender proffered and another subscriber commented upon agreeing with my
point.

I don't think this is any indication that I am 'obsessed' with the captain
of the erstwhile "Red Cloud." And if you'd take the time to read and
understand my posting in another thread called "Lessons to be learned from
the wreck of the "Red Cloud," you just might find I never even mentioned the
name of the failed captain. And, this is what you call an obsession?

Try understanding the subject line even if you're incapable of understanding
the body of the post. Lessons to be learned perhaps might be called
criticism but obsession in not an appropriate word. When anybody screws up
badly and unnecessarily it is always beneficial to discuss the reasons why
if for no other reason than to give a heads up to those who might wish to
avoid being the cause of a similar such debacle.

You claim that I don't know what I'm talking about but nothing could be
further from the truth. It is precisely because I am extremely knowledgeable
and experienced at blue water sailing that I can recognize and describe
folly when I hear about it and see videos of it. Only the clueless could
look at those videos and conclude that the captain of the erstwhile "Red
Cloud" acted prudently for if he had acted prudently he and his vessel would
never have been in the predicament we saw them in. I did not have to be
there to understand what happened any more than you had to be at the
Superbowl to understand why New England got it's ass handed to them on a
silver platter by an inferior team.

I have absolutely NO empathy for the wreck of the "Red Cloud" since it was
totally avoidable and the result of ineptitude. It was a shameful episode of
cut and run. It is illustrative of today's liberal mentality that, more
often than not, results in failure. (That huge ensign flying in an
inappropriate place alone tells a tale of a lubber out of his element.
Unreefed mainsail and mizzensail with no staysail or jib confirms it.) What
was the captain thinking? It appears he wasn't thinking at all or, if he
was, he was incapable of action for whatever reason.) The bulk of the
journey confirms an unthinking captain. This is something that I cannot
abide especially when combined with his flippant attitude after the rescue
here in these very groups. He wasn't the least bit contrite and he was
already obfuscating and patting himself on the back for 'trying.'
Unacceptable behavior even for a lubber. For somebody who claimed to be a
blue water sailor it is inexcusable and embarrassing. Any real sailor would
have hidden his face in shame for at least a year or two.

As for pictures of my fine blue water yacht under sail and my doings aboard
her, forget about it! I sail for one reason and one reason alone and that is
for my own pleasure, accomplishment and fulfillment. To share my successes
with a bunch of liberal losers is to degrade the essence of why I sail - to
challenge myself and to succeed where most others fail or chicken out or
make excuses. To pen stories the likes of which today's liberal, girly,
sailing print media foist off as the norm is to degrade my chosen way of
life. I will never assist the destruction of what still is for some of us a
manly, independent, worthwhile and fulfilling way of life.

Would you care to share pictures and a detailed description of your
lovemaking with your wife or girlfriend? I don't think so because to do so
would degrade the intimacy and beauty of the act not to mention making a
whore out of your partner. In much the same manner anything more than
saying, "I just returned from a 2000 mile ocean voyage. Everything went well
as usual and it was a total success, thank you," would have the effect of
degrading my life, my crew and my vessel.

If you can't understand this you are no more a blue water sailor than the
rest of the wannabes around here with the exception of Ozone who is an
accomplished and experienced blue water sailor/racer with a ball sack
between his legs who views the wreck of the "Red Cloud" with a skeptical eye
just any other experienced voyager. Neither of us can abide the mentality of
rescue just because things get just a bit uncomfortable due to the fact we
were unprepared, ignorant and weak.
So, don't venture out upon the high seas unless you can handle it. If you
can't hack it then chicken out and call for a premature rescue then at least
accept responsibility for it and don't try to act like it happens to
everybody and is acceptable and seamanlike because it does not and is not.


Wilbur Hubbard