"Dave" wrote in message
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Simply pointing out that you're spouting populist nonsense.

Yes, but it does save one the effort of actually having to think.

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:59:22 -0500, Marty said:

Now Red Cloud was longer, of steel rather than fiberglass
and engaged in commercial operation, surely of more value than a toy
used for the diversions of the rich?

Um...Marty, how do you throw adjectives like "the rich" into a value
equation. Is there some calculus by which you can determine how much
more a
poor man's boat is worth than that of a rich man?


Ah, now Dave I think you're merely being disingenuous, rather than
merely simple.

Simply pointing out that you're spouting populist nonsense.


No... I think Marty got it about right. You have a long history of being
disingenuous, which begs the questions.

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Dave wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:59:22 -0500, Marty said:

Now Red Cloud was longer, of steel rather than fiberglass
and engaged in commercial operation, surely of more value than a toy
used for the diversions of the rich?
Um...Marty, how do you throw adjectives like "the rich" into a value
equation. Is there some calculus by which you can determine how much more a
poor man's boat is worth than that of a rich man?

Ah, now Dave I think you're merely being disingenuous, rather than
merely simple.

Simply pointing out that you're spouting populist nonsense.


You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way it
treats whites and rich?

Cheers
Marty

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way it
treats whites and rich?


The only system in the history of mankind that has treated the most number
of people equally are totalitarian regimes because all freedom and justice
is lacking.

Anonymous wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way it
treats whites and rich?


The only system in the history of mankind that has treated the most number
of people equally are totalitarian regimes because all freedom and justice
is lacking.




Be that as it may, your point would be?

Cheers
Marty

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:54:48 -0500, Martin Baxter said:

Now Red Cloud was longer, of steel rather than fiberglass
and engaged in commercial operation, surely of more value than a toy
used for the diversions of the rich?
Um...Marty, how do you throw adjectives like "the rich" into a value
equation. Is there some calculus by which you can determine how much
more a
poor man's boat is worth than that of a rich man?

Ah, now Dave I think you're merely being disingenuous, rather than
merely simple.

Simply pointing out that you're spouting populist nonsense.


You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way it
treats whites and rich?

Ah, a new variation on the populist theme. You seem to play the theme like
a
Bach fugue, this time in the key of race.

The indigineous people have their own sovereign government and the
"coloured" get preferential treatment in hiring, college entrance, etc. So
it is definitely not equal. I demand equality!

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Anonymous wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way it
treats whites and rich?


The only system in the history of mankind that has treated the most
number of people equally are totalitarian regimes because all freedom and
justice is lacking.


Be that as it may, your point would be?


The counter of your point.

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Anonymous wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way it
treats whites and rich?


The only system in the history of mankind that has treated the most
number of people equally are totalitarian regimes because all freedom and
justice is lacking.


Be that as it may, your point would be?

Cheers
Marty


Likely the point on top of the pseudo-intellectual's rather pointy head.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Anonymous wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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You live in a nice world Dave. I suppose that in your world the US
Justice system treats the indigenous and the coloured in the same way
it treats whites and rich?


The only system in the history of mankind that has treated the most
number of people equally are totalitarian regimes because all freedom
and justice is lacking.


Be that as it may, your point would be?

Cheers
Marty


Likely the point on top of the pseudo-intellectual's rather pointy head.

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If anyone is interesed in the historical basis and genuine discussion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarian_democracy

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=003...3E2.0.CO%3B2-K

Don't confuse "equality before the law" or "equality of opportunity" with
"equality of outcome".

Also don't think "freedom to" and "freedom from" are anywhere near the same.

The most telling thing about these Utopias is the border is usually guarded
or fenced - to keep people in.

Some Utopias don't want to keep people in, in fact it is a result of their
policies to drive certain ethnic groups out. The worst example of this in
American history is:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...n-blacks_N.htm

It is truly shameful that the local government has institutionalized racism
and few of the population rise to voice concern, but then the people voted
for these rascist policies. Unprincipled democracy in action!

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:33:52 -0700, "Anonymous" said:

The indigineous people have their own sovereign government and the
"coloured" get preferential treatment in hiring, college entrance, etc.
So
it is definitely not equal. I demand equality!

And my calls for a Lief Ericson Day continue to fall on deaf ears.


You mean you don't celebrate it in the East Coast??? Sheesh

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