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Joe January 13th 08 06:52 PM

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MIAMI - The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Farallon is towing the
disabled 37-foot sailing vessel Hot Ticket Thursday evening and is
expected to arrive in Key West, Fla., at noon Friday.

The Cutter Farallon arrived on scene at approximately 6 p.m. Thursday
after battling 10 to 12-foot seas for more than 10 hours in response
to a distress call from the Hot Ticket, which became disabled
approximately 130 miles southwest of Fort Myers Beach, Fla., Wednesday
afternoon.

The crew of the sailing vessel Hot Ticket activated their emergency
position indicating radio beacon (EPIRB) Wednesday afternoon when they
lost steering and the vessel began to take on water. The EPIRB signal
was received by search and rescue coordinators at the Eighth Coast
Guard District Command Center in New Orleans. Eighth District
controllers then contacted the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric
Administration's U.S. Mission Control Center in Suitland, Md., to
obtain the Hot Ticket's position from the agency's Cospas-Sarsat
program satellites. Controllers at the Seventh Coast Guard District
were then notified of the case. The position of the Hot Ticket was
also checked against information passed by the captain to a friend
during a satellite phone call.

SAR coordinators at the Seventh Coast Guard District in Miami took
control of the rescue, directing the launch of an HH-60 Jayhawk
helicopter from Coast Guard Air Station Clearwater, Fla. Moments
later, the Atlantic Area Command Center received an alert from the
cruise ship Grandeur of the Seas that relayed a mayday call from the
Hot Ticket. In the mayday call the crew stated they had lost a rudder,
were slowly taking on water and their satellite phone was no longer
working.

Two HC-130 Hercules aircraft from Air Station Clearwater and an HU-25
Falcon jet from Air Station Miami flew missions to remain with the Hot
Ticket throughout Wednesday evening and until shortly before the
Farallon rendezvoused with the Hot Ticket Thursday afternoon.

[email protected] January 13th 08 11:59 PM

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On Jan 13, 1:52 pm, Joe wrote:
MIAMI - The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Farallon is towing the
disabled 37-foot sailing vessel Hot Ticket Thursday evening and is
expected to arrive in Key West, Fla., at noon Friday.


I think Hot Ticket is one of the boats being delivered to Key West for
the big annual regatta there. It is unusual AFAIK for the USCG to
agree to tow a pleasure craft.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Marty[_2_] January 14th 08 12:10 AM

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Joe wrote:
MIAMI - The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Farallon is towing the
disabled 37-foot sailing vessel Hot Ticket Thursday evening and is
expected to arrive in Key West, Fla., at noon Friday.


Well Joe, you live in the USA, world leader of litigation; looks like
you ought to be getting yourself an attorney and claiming unequal
treatment from Uncle Sam's employees.'

Cheers
Marty

Anonymous[_2_] January 14th 08 12:44 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message
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MIAMI - The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Farallon is towing the
disabled 37-foot sailing vessel Hot Ticket Thursday evening and is
expected to arrive in Key West, Fla., at noon Friday.

The Cutter Farallon arrived on scene at approximately 6 p.m. Thursday
after battling 10 to 12-foot seas for more than 10 hours in response
to a distress call from the Hot Ticket, which became disabled
approximately 130 miles southwest of Fort Myers Beach, Fla., Wednesday
afternoon.

The crew of the sailing vessel Hot Ticket activated their emergency
position indicating radio beacon (EPIRB) Wednesday afternoon when they
lost steering and the vessel began to take on water. The EPIRB signal
was received by search and rescue coordinators at the Eighth Coast
Guard District Command Center in New Orleans. Eighth District
controllers then contacted the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric
Administration's U.S. Mission Control Center in Suitland, Md., to
obtain the Hot Ticket's position from the agency's Cospas-Sarsat
program satellites. Controllers at the Seventh Coast Guard District
were then notified of the case. The position of the Hot Ticket was
also checked against information passed by the captain to a friend
during a satellite phone call.

SAR coordinators at the Seventh Coast Guard District in Miami took
control of the rescue, directing the launch of an HH-60 Jayhawk
helicopter from Coast Guard Air Station Clearwater, Fla. Moments
later, the Atlantic Area Command Center received an alert from the
cruise ship Grandeur of the Seas that relayed a mayday call from the
Hot Ticket. In the mayday call the crew stated they had lost a rudder,
were slowly taking on water and their satellite phone was no longer
working.

Two HC-130 Hercules aircraft from Air Station Clearwater and an HU-25
Falcon jet from Air Station Miami flew missions to remain with the Hot
Ticket throughout Wednesday evening and until shortly before the
Farallon rendezvoused with the Hot Ticket Thursday afternoon.


No one was injured and had to be evacuated on the Hot Ticket.




Marty[_2_] January 14th 08 01:15 AM

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Anonymous wrote:


Two HC-130 Hercules aircraft from Air Station Clearwater and an HU-25
Falcon jet from Air Station Miami flew missions to remain with the Hot
Ticket throughout Wednesday evening and until shortly before the
Farallon rendezvoused with the Hot Ticket Thursday afternoon.


No one was injured and had to be evacuated on the Hot Ticket.



Hmmm... No one injured, so they get two Hercs, a chopper, a Falcon, and
a cutter. Joe has crew with a sprained ankle and gets ONE chopper.
Makes perfect sense to me. Was Hot Ticket even in danger of sinking?
Maybe the CG just doesn't like Texans?

Cheers
Marty

Anonymous[_2_] January 14th 08 02:02 AM

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Anonymous wrote:


Two HC-130 Hercules aircraft from Air Station Clearwater and an HU-25
Falcon jet from Air Station Miami flew missions to remain with the Hot
Ticket throughout Wednesday evening and until shortly before the
Farallon rendezvoused with the Hot Ticket Thursday afternoon.


No one was injured and had to be evacuated on the Hot Ticket.



Hmmm... No one injured, so they get two Hercs, a chopper, a Falcon, and a
cutter. Joe has crew with a sprained ankle and gets ONE chopper. Makes
perfect sense to me. Was Hot Ticket even in danger of sinking? Maybe the
CG just doesn't like Texans?

Cheers
Marty


According to this:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/expect...0026.2007.html

Maybe they thought Joe's boat wasn't worth enough to be saved. See how
"property in danger of loss saved" is measured.



Marty[_2_] January 14th 08 02:33 AM

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Anonymous wrote:


Hmmm... No one injured, so they get two Hercs, a chopper, a Falcon, and a
cutter. Joe has crew with a sprained ankle and gets ONE chopper. Makes
perfect sense to me. Was Hot Ticket even in danger of sinking? Maybe the
CG just doesn't like Texans?

Cheers
Marty


According to this:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/expect...0026.2007.html

Maybe they thought Joe's boat wasn't worth enough to be saved. See how
"property in danger of loss saved" is measured.


I don't see in your link the methodology to which you allude. I do see
this sentence "In 2007 the Coast Guard instituted use of a standardized
cost table based solely upon vessel length, type of construction, and
type of use." Now Red Cloud was longer, of steel rather than fiberglass
and engaged in commercial operation, surely of more value than a toy
used for the diversions of the rich?

Cheers
Marty

Marty[_2_] January 14th 08 03:59 AM

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Dave wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:33:18 -0500, Marty said:

Now Red Cloud was longer, of steel rather than fiberglass
and engaged in commercial operation, surely of more value than a toy
used for the diversions of the rich?


Um...Marty, how do you throw adjectives like "the rich" into a value
equation. Is there some calculus by which you can determine how much more a
poor man's boat is worth than that of a rich man?



Ah, now Dave I think you're merely being disingenuous, rather than
merely simple. It is obvious to most that the assets of the "rich" are
indeed more worthy protecting. Now don't bother spouting some nonsense
about paranoia, it happens repeatedly. I'll bet you that if one of the
Duponts reports their dog missing in Delaware that there will be a much
larger effort given to finding it than if you report your dog missing.

To deny that money buys influence and that sycophancy is nonexistent is
simply foolish.

Cheers
Marty

Capt. JG January 14th 08 05:04 AM

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:33:18 -0500, Marty said:

Now Red Cloud was longer, of steel rather than fiberglass and engaged in
commercial operation, surely of more value than a toy used for the
diversions of the rich?


Um...Marty, how do you throw adjectives like "the rich" into a value
equation. Is there some calculus by which you can determine how much more
a
poor man's boat is worth than that of a rich man?



Ah, now Dave I think you're merely being disingenuous, rather than merely
simple. It is obvious to most that the assets of the "rich" are indeed
more worthy protecting. Now don't bother spouting some nonsense about
paranoia, it happens repeatedly. I'll bet you that if one of the Duponts
reports their dog missing in Delaware that there will be a much larger
effort given to finding it than if you report your dog missing.

To deny that money buys influence and that sycophancy is nonexistent is
simply foolish.

Cheers
Marty



The New Orleans disaster is a great example... the poor are just not
important enough to be saved.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Anonymous[_2_] January 14th 08 02:41 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

The New Orleans disaster is a great example... the poor are just not
important enough to be saved.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesXU...eature=related

http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/gimme_shelter/










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