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Mike wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:27:19 -0500, "Mike" wrote:

What about illegal hallucinogenic drugs? I'm assuming that you approve of
them?
Where did that come from? Nowhere in this discussion has anyone
expressed approval of doing any mood altering substance. Even legal
ones. Mentioning that a drunk went to prison for killing someone is
expressing approval of exactly what?

Casady

Old Ganzey's kind of touchy on the subject of illegal hallucinogenic drugs.
He used them and posted on usenet all about it. Then he lied on his
application to the Coast Guard when he took the Captain's test. He still
has flashbacks, as you can see from some of his posts.



And you're just a piece of hypocritical slime sucking whale ****.

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:55:54 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

Nonsense. Have you ever seen the wake from a freighter or fast tug
boat? If so you'll never complain about sportfish or motoryachts.

I believe that aircraft carriers have the biggest wakes. What with 300
000 HP. Freighters, and tankers only come in HP under 100 000, all
single screw diesels, although many are bigger than a flattop. A
submarine at full power on the surface will also move lots of water.

One of the biggest wakes I've ever seen was from a submarine on the
surface near the eastern end of Long Island Sound. Probably the
second biggest was from a tugboat trying to get somewhere in a hurry.
His wake was still breaking several miles away.

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"Marty" wrote:

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I
can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Those are "Salties", AKA: Baby boats.

1,000 ft ore boats never see L Ontario.

From what I remember, there are/were no steel mills along the St
Lawrence.


Lew

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On 2007-12-06 11:47:45 -0500, (Richard
Casady) said:

We've found that even with the fresh water closed off, we have about 5
minutes' run-time at cruise power (about 2200 rpm) before the high-temp
alarm sounds -- quite a bit further than 200 meters. We used that
reserve once about a decade ago, so I know it exists.

What do you mean by fresh water. My [22 ft sterndrive] is cooled by
glycol and has a heat exchanger. If I am floating in salt water, there
is no fresh water involved anywhere.

You're right. I meant to say "raw (salt)" valve. It takes about 5
minutes at moderate power to bring the water recycling in the engine
loop up to to a temp that sounds the alarm.

One thing is certain, unless the pump is managing to circulate coolant
through the engine, it won't last anything like five minutes. The
difference between driving with a broken fan belt, and driving with no
coolant.

True, but I wasn't talking about that, just lack of raw cooling water.
If the fan belt breaks, we have a few other problems.

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Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:13:59 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Marty" wrote:

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I
can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Those are "Salties", AKA: Baby boats.

1,000 ft ore boats never see L Ontario.

From what I remember, there are/were no steel mills along the St
Lawrence.

Last time I checked there were 29 lakers that were too big to get out
of the lakes. As for the steel mills the big bulk carriers also haul
coal and stone. There is a market for the coal and stone where there
are no steel mills although the steel mills do use both.

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"Marty" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:27:19 -0500, "Mike" wrote:

What about illegal hallucinogenic drugs? I'm assuming that you approve
of
them?
Where did that come from? Nowhere in this discussion has anyone
expressed approval of doing any mood altering substance. Even legal
ones. Mentioning that a drunk went to prison for killing someone is
expressing approval of exactly what?

Casady

stalker stuff deleted


And you're just a piece of hypocritical slime sucking whale ****.


True, but he doesn't need to be reminded I'm sure!

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www.sailnow.com

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"Richard Casady" wrote:

Last time I checked there were 29 lakers that were too big to get
out
of the lakes. As for the steel mills the big bulk carriers also haul
coal and stone. There is a market for the coal and stone where there
are no steel mills although the steel mills do use both.

The 1,000 ft one are strictly ore boats, which were only a wet dream
until the Eisenhower locks were built at the "Sue" in the late 50s.

The Canadians haul most of the stone and coal using old (small) boats
purchased from US fleets.

Can't think of anyplace along Ontario or St Lawrence that has a use
for either stone or coal.

Alcoa at Massinas/p might use some coal.

Lew

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:42:19 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Can't think of anyplace along Ontario or St Lawrence that has a use
for either stone or coal.

If you can get it out of the lakes, you can ship the stuff anywhere. I
suppose you wouldn't want to take a self-unloader on the high seas.
You can, however, sell coal and stone anywhere. I could use some of
the stone myself. For the driveway.

Casady

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:42:19 -0800, Lew Hodgett wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote:

Last time I checked there were 29 lakers that were too big to get
out
of the lakes. As for the steel mills the big bulk carriers also haul
coal and stone. There is a market for the coal and stone where there are
no steel mills although the steel mills do use both.

The 1,000 ft one are strictly ore boats, which were only a wet dream until
the Eisenhower locks were built at the "Sue" in the late 50s.

it's spelled the "Soo" and the 1000 footers weren't built until the 60's.
I think the "Cort" was the first...

The Canadians haul most of the stone and coal using old (small) boats
purchased from US fleets.

Can't think of anyplace along Ontario or St Lawrence that has a use for
either stone or coal.

Hamilton, ON...home of Stelco or is it now Dofasco? making _lots_ of
steel...they use a little coal there ;-)

Alcoa at Massinas/p might use some coal.

hmmm...Aluminum requires _HUGE_ quantities of electricity, plants are
usually built right next to generating facilities...I hope they aren't
burning coal to produce the electricity for aluminum smelting!!?!

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"Marty" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:27:19 -0500, "Mike" wrote:

What about illegal hallucinogenic drugs? I'm assuming that you approve
of
them?
Where did that come from? Nowhere in this discussion has anyone
expressed approval of doing any mood altering substance. Even legal
ones. Mentioning that a drunk went to prison for killing someone is
expressing approval of exactly what?

Casady

Old Ganzey's kind of touchy on the subject of illegal hallucinogenic
drugs. He used them and posted on usenet all about it. Then he lied on
his application to the Coast Guard when he took the Captain's test. He
still has flashbacks, as you can see from some of his posts.

And you're just a piece of hypocritical slime sucking whale ****.

Me? I don't do drugs and didn't lie on an application for a captain's
license. That makes *ME* a hypocrite?

I think that you missed a few classes in school, or were you doing drugs
with Ganze?

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Marty" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:27:19 -0500, "Mike" wrote:

What about illegal hallucinogenic drugs? I'm assuming that you
approve of
them?
Where did that come from? Nowhere in this discussion has anyone
expressed approval of doing any mood altering substance. Even legal
ones. Mentioning that a drunk went to prison for killing someone is
expressing approval of exactly what?

Casady

stalker stuff deleted


And you're just a piece of hypocritical slime sucking whale ****.


True, but he doesn't need to be reminded I'm sure!

Eh? You're the scum-bag that bragged about your drugs on usenet and then
lied about your drug use on your captains application. How does that make
*me* the hypocrite?

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:03:45 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote this crap:


If you can get it out of the lakes, you can ship the stuff anywhere. I
suppose you wouldn't want to take a self-unloader on the high seas.

Why not? They travel Lake Superior.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

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Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Marty" wrote:

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I
can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Those are "Salties", AKA: Baby boats.

1,000 ft ore boats never see L Ontario.

From what I remember, there are/were no steel mills along the St
Lawrence.



Well, there are no steel mills on the St Lawrence, but there's plenty of
iron ore pellets transported there. Remember the Edmund Fitzgerald?

You're right, not 1000 ft, but 800' pretty damn close, 25,000 tons or
more of cargo.

You were the one who wrote
" One of the reasons these boats travel in the middle of the lake"

Sure they spend some time in the middle of the lake, but only if the
shortest distance from A to B puts them there for a while.

Cheers
Marty

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"Marty" wrote:


Well, there are no steel mills on the St Lawrence, but there's plenty of
iron ore pellets transported there. Remember the Edmund Fitzgerald?

If there are no steel mills, where is the iron ore going?

Great Lakes ore boats are not designed to handle ocean waters.

Remember the "Fitz" quite well. Got the opportunity to go on board once as a
guest of my distributor who was delivering parts.

Even then, the "Fitz" was a very mature boat.


You're right, not 1000 ft, but 800' pretty damn close, 25,000 tons or more
of cargo.

As I said, a baby boat, especially when you consider 60,000 tons is the
normal 1,000 ft cargo, assuming enough water in the lakes to support 25 ft
draft..

Sure they spend some time in the middle of the lake, but only if the
shortest distance from A to B puts them there for a while.

Take a look at a lake chart, Erie for example.

Mid lake courses are well marked and followed.

Most of the small pleasure boats stay out of the middle of the lake.

Lew

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:16:21 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote this crap:

Take a look at a lake chart, Erie for example.

Mid lake courses are well marked and followed.

Most of the small pleasure boats stay out of the middle of the lake.

You would be wrong on this statement.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

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On Dec 6, 10:17 pm, Marty wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote:

I believe that aircraft carriers have the biggest wakes. What with
300
000 HP. Freighters, and tankers only come in HP under 100 000, all
single screw diesels, although many are bigger than a flattop. A
submarine at full power on the surface will also move lots of water.

Can't comment on any of the above; however, the bow wave generated by
a 1,000 ft ore boat, loaded out at 60,000 tons of iron ore, can be
felt for miles.

One of the reasons these boats travel in the middle of the lake.

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Cheers
Marty

I know your area - couldn't do it this past summer, but in each of the
previous two summers, my wife and I trailered the waverunner up to
stay in the 1,000 Islands area (a really nice fancy hotel/marina in A-
bay in '05, a cheap motel with a dock in Clayton in '06) for a week
and go riding and exploring the whole area pretty much every day.
She ended up getting some nice pictures of the Tibbetts Point
lighthouse which were decent sellers on her ebay photo store. Lots of
great memories and photos of Boldt and Singer castles, the
International Rift, the seemingly millions of beautiful boater-
friendly state parks all around, the boating museum, and the rest of
it, love it up there, certainly boating/pwc'ing paradise.

richforman

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richforman wrote:
On Dec 6, 10:17 pm, Marty wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote:
I believe that aircraft carriers have the biggest wakes. What with
300
000 HP. Freighters, and tankers only come in HP under 100 000, all
single screw diesels, although many are bigger than a flattop. A
submarine at full power on the surface will also move lots of water.
Can't comment on any of the above; however, the bow wave generated by
a 1,000 ft ore boat, loaded out at 60,000 tons of iron ore, can be
felt for miles.
One of the reasons these boats travel in the middle of the lake.
Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Cheers
Marty

I know your area - couldn't do it this past summer, but in each of the
previous two summers, my wife and I trailered the waverunner up to
stay in the 1,000 Islands area (a really nice fancy hotel/marina in A-
bay in '05, a cheap motel with a dock in Clayton in '06) for a week
and go riding and exploring the whole area pretty much every day.
She ended up getting some nice pictures of the Tibbetts Point
lighthouse which were decent sellers on her ebay photo store. Lots of
great memories and photos of Boldt and Singer castles, the
International Rift, the seemingly millions of beautiful boater-
friendly state parks all around, the boating museum, and the rest of
it, love it up there, certainly boating/pwc'ing paradise.

richforman

Waverunner? You have been seduced by the forces of the Dark Side. I'm
about 5 miles NE of Clayton. Speaking of lighthouse, if make it back to
Clayton, you should check out the light house on Quebec Head (East end
of Wolfe I.m may be listed as "Port Townsend" on your charts). It's
actually a home, more or less copied from a Chesapeake Bay light house.

Cheers
Marty

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On Dec 10, 11:02 pm, Marty wrote:
richforman wrote:
in each of the
previous two summers, my wife and I trailered the
waverunner up to
stay in the 1,000 Islands area... Lots of
great memories and photos

Waverunner? You have been seduced by the forces of the
Dark Side.

Don't know about the dark side but I guess I was seduced quite a while
ago now....all I know is that many of the best times we've ever had
have been on our various long-distance and overnight pwc cruises,
never gotten in any trouble or caused any. Around Christmas of this
year, we will be visiting my parents in SW Florida, and are planning
an overnight run (short trip by my usual standards, but the days are
short this time of year) from Marco Island to the Pine Island Sound
area, hoping to check out Sanibel, Captiva and Cayo Costa for some
beaching, shelling, hiking and picture taking, and exploring some of
the mangrove trails in the back bays along the way looking for
dolphins, and staying overnight at a little resort I found in Ft.
Myers Beach.

about 5 miles NE of Clayton. Speaking of lighthouse, if make it back to Clayton, you should check out the light house on Quebec Head (East end
of Wolfe I.m may be listed as "Port Townsend" on your
charts). It's
actually a home, more or less copied from a Chesapeake
Bay light house.


I'm not sure if I'll make the same trip a third time, probably would
go someplace different next time I can go on a summer vacation, but I
think we did catch pretty much every lighthouse (and lots more) in the
whole area on the first trip back in '05, here's a link on the off
chance that you'd be interested in browsing my wife's lovely pics of
the area -

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLan...omshare& Ux=1

richforman

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richforman wrote:

I'm not sure if I'll make the same trip a third time, probably would
go someplace different next time I can go on a summer vacation, but I
think we did catch pretty much every lighthouse (and lots more) in the
whole area on the first trip back in '05, here's a link on the off
chance that you'd be interested in browsing my wife's lovely pics of
the area -

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLan...omshare& Ux=1

richforman


Much as I'd like to view the album, Kodak wants me to join up and I've
already got my name and e-mail address in too many places. First
picture looks like the Bonnycastle at Alex Bay.


Cheers
Marty

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On Dec 11, 9:28 pm, Marty wrote:

First
picture looks like the Bonnycastle at Alex Bay.


Is that a nickname for it? I have never heard that but since you're a
local I'll definitely take your word for it. I'm sure you know that
it's usually referred to as Boldt castle. The pictures in that album
I linked are from all over the Thousand Islands and surrounding area
but Boldt castle is the subject of probably more than any other sight.

Oh yes, I realized that you can also see two dozen of her favorite of
those pictures without having to register or anything (like you would
on Kodak), just by checking out her ebay sto click on "Thousand
Islands, NY" on the list at the left. Some nice ones with little
stories and descriptions of the various lighthouses, bridges and other
sights in the pictures (be very happy to have you let me know if any
of the information in the descriptions is wrong) - most of these pics
were taken from the waverunner.

http://stores.ebay.com/Formans-Featu...8Q2em118QQtZkm

richforman

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wrote:
On Dec 11, 9:28 pm, Marty wrote:

First
picture looks like the Bonnycastle at Alex Bay.


Is that a nickname for it? I have never heard that but since you're a
local I'll definitely take your word for it. I'm sure you know that
it's usually referred to as Boldt castle. The pictures in that album
I linked are from all over the Thousand Islands and surrounding area
but Boldt castle is the subject of probably more than any other sight.

Oh yes, I realized that you can also see two dozen of her favorite of
those pictures without having to register or anything (like you would
on Kodak), just by checking out her ebay sto click on "Thousand
Islands, NY" on the list at the left. Some nice ones with little
stories and descriptions of the various lighthouses, bridges and other
sights in the pictures (be very happy to have you let me know if any
of the information in the descriptions is wrong) - most of these pics
were taken from the waverunner.

http://stores.ebay.com/Formans-Featu...8Q2em118QQtZkm

richforman


Nice picture Rich, everthing looks good. The picture that came up at
the Kodak site was the Bonnie Castle Resort in Alex. Bay, see;
http://www.bonniecastle.com/

Boldt Castle is just Boldt Castle.

Cheers
Marty

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On Dec 12, 5:31 pm, Marty wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 11, 9:28 pm, Marty wrote:

First
picture looks like the Bonnycastle at Alex Bay.

Is that a nickname for it? I have never heard that but since you're a
local I'll definitely take your word for it. I'm sure you know that
it's usually referred to as Boldt castle. The pictures in that album
I linked are from all over the Thousand Islands and surrounding area
but Boldt castle is the subject of probably more than any other sight.

Oh yes, I realized that you can also see two dozen of her favorite of
those pictures without having to register or anything (like you would
on Kodak), just by checking out her ebay sto click on "Thousand
Islands, NY" on the list at the left. Some nice ones with little
stories and descriptions of the various lighthouses, bridges and other
sights in the pictures (be very happy to have you let me know if any
of the information in the descriptions is wrong) - most of these pics
were taken from the waverunner.

http://stores.ebay.com/Formans-Featu...sidZp1638Q2em1...

richforman

Nice picture Rich, everthing looks good. The picture that came up at
the Kodak site was the Bonnie Castle Resort in Alex. Bay, see;http://www.bonniecastle.com/

Boldt Castle is just Boldt Castle.

Cheers
Marty- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Right you are - I was confused, didn't realize which picture you saw -
now I remember that (Bonnie Castle) was another hotel, right across
the little canal from where we stayed with the waverunner tied up for
a week, at I believe the Riverside (Riverfront?) Marina/Resort, in
fact we had lunch over there one die. I was confused because (I
think) it's not actually a castle (that's why I thoughot you had it
confused with Boldt), but rather, I guess is called that because it's
right across the bay from Boldt Castle with a lurvely view of it.

Cheers right back atcha
richforman