Frogwatch wrote:
The wooden boats have not given too much trouble since I learned to
saturate the wood with epoxy.

Extends the life of the wood, but not forever. "Saturation" even with
thinned epoxy is only about 1 mm so it's really just a bonded coating.

It also depends on the wood. I built a small dinghy out of cheap-o
luaun plywood, saturated it with epoxy (a silly thing to do, since the
cost of the epoxy would have justified using more expensive wood; but
I was in a hurry and already had the epoxy anyway). It lasted two
years, at the end of which it was sprouting quarter-sized punk spots.


Basically, building the boats is sorta therapy.

It certainly can be. I've enjoyed the boatbuilding projects I've done;
likewise with the boat-improvement projects.

The question is, what is more rewarding way to invest your time:
building a boat vs going kayaking with your daughter. Working on your
old truck vs. going caving.
Etc etc etc.

Time is the most valuable thing you have.


... Of course, you can imagine I am ready to jump overboard after a
few hours of a long sailing passage (yup, same horizon, 10 minutes
later, no change, 10 minutes later... ad infinitum).
When I read about people who go off on long sailing trips, I wonder if
there is something wrong with me or something wrong with them cuz I'd
go nuts after a few days.


A long ocean-crossing passage *is* boring. The only reason to do it is
because you want to get yourself & your boat to the other side. If
such a trip becomes exciting, it's a sign of poor planning.

OTOH shorter trips along interesting shores, into various ports,
exploring waterways, etc etc, can be lots of fun. Not really crash-
bang-boom exciting (or at least, shouldn't be IMHO), and the horizon
doesn't change much during that 10 minute span. And it's an excellent
justification for owning a good boat.

DSK

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:58:49 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:



The WY cabin is a recent addition and will be our place in Summer to
escape the FL heat.

Last time I was in Wyoming in the summer it was about 105F, and there
was no ocean to cool off in, and hardly any shade either.
I asked the cowboy running the KOA if there was shade on the sites.
He said, "Sure pardner." , looked at his watch, "but you'll have to
wait a few hours." Sundown.

--Vic

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
ps.com...
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your
ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I
believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and
a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt)
and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding,
an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to
maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge
Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it.
Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop
by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew
I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long
time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt
find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from
inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime
this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do
this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too.
My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta
sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop
replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing.
Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20
yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving
trip (gotta take the younger kids too).
Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each
evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has
not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the
work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was
paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing
stuff?
OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter
cuz she likes kayaks............


Your life is focused on crap and maintaining the crap. Those "toys" are no
longer tools that are an extension of yourself but rather a time consuming
form of bondage. What is it that is important in your life? What is it that
you want to do? Are you using all this fixing up old stuff to avoid actually
doing something? Is fighting life on too many fronts diluting your
efforts/clouding your vision?

The stuff you have is merely an end product of your mental organization and
executive function. Take a long hard honest look at yourself and your
priorities. Once you have that straight everything else is simple. Learn to
trust others, learn to live with their mistakes and learn to let go.

"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
ps.com...
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your
ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I
believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats
and
a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff
(homeebuilt)
and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding,
an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need
to
maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old
Dodge
Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it.
Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop
by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew
I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long
time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I
couldnt
find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from
inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime
this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do
this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too.
My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta
sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled,
prop
replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing.
Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20
yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving
trip (gotta take the younger kids too).
Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each
evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has
not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like
the
work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck
was
paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing
stuff?
OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter
cuz she likes kayaks............


Your life is focused on crap and maintaining the crap. Those "toys"
are no longer tools that are an extension of yourself but rather a
time consuming form of bondage. What is it that is important in your
life? What is it that you want to do? Are you using all this fixing up
old stuff to avoid actually doing something? Is fighting life on too
many fronts diluting your efforts/clouding your vision?

The stuff you have is merely an end product of your mental
organization and executive function. Take a long hard honest look at
yourself and your priorities. Once you have that straight everything
else is simple. Learn to trust others, learn to live with their
mistakes and learn to let go.


Spot on. Simple is better.

Wilbur Hubbard

What, no motorcycles?

Scotty
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
ps.com...
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so
that your
ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use
them. I
believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt
sailboats and
a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff
(homeebuilt)
and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs
rebuilding,
an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love
and a need to
maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20
yr old Dodge
Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it.
Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had
de-fouled the prop
by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated.
Dang, I knew
I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4
years, a long
time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling
and I couldnt
find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the
intake from
inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again).
So, sometime
this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast
and do
this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape
barnacles too.
My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so
I'll haveta
sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her
hauled, prop
replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless
bearing.
Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people
cuz my 20
yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF
on a caving
trip (gotta take the younger kids too).
Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally
use each
evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give.
Money has
not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I
dont like the
work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and
my truck was
paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room
for doing
stuff?
OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr
old daughter
cuz she likes kayaks............

On Sep 24, 7:58 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
What, no motorcycles?

Scotty"Frogwatch" wrote in message

ps.com...

At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so
that your
ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use
them. I
believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt
sailboats and
a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff
(homeebuilt)
and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs
rebuilding,
an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love
and a need to
maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20
yr old Dodge
Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it.
Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had
de-fouled the prop
by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated.
Dang, I knew
I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4
years, a long
time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling
and I couldnt
find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the
intake from
inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again).
So, sometime
this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast
and do
this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape
barnacles too.
My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so
I'll haveta
sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her
hauled, prop
replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless
bearing.
Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people
cuz my 20
yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF
on a caving
trip (gotta take the younger kids too).
Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally
use each
evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give.
Money has
not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I
dont like the
work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and
my truck was
paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room
for doing
stuff?
OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr
old daughter
cuz she likes kayaks............

Down on the plains, Wy is hot and boring. Up in the Mts, its cool
with aspens, lodgepole pines, streams, etc. They do have some big man
made lakes. Jackson lake really might be nice but is about 250 miles
from our place near Casper.

On Sep 24, 8:21 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 24, 7:58 pm, "Scotty" wrote:



What, no motorcycles?

Scotty"Frogwatch" wrote in message

ups.com...

At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so
that your
ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use
them. I
believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt
sailboats and
a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff
(homeebuilt)
and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs
rebuilding,
an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love
and a need to
maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20
yr old Dodge
Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it.
Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had
de-fouled the prop
by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated.
Dang, I knew
I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4
years, a long
time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling
and I couldnt
find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the
intake from
inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again).
So, sometime
this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast
and do
this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape
barnacles too.
My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so
I'll haveta
sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her
hauled, prop
replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless
bearing.
Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people
cuz my 20
yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF
on a caving
trip (gotta take the younger kids too).
Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally
use each
evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give.
Money has
not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I
dont like the
work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and
my truck was
paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room
for doing
stuff?
OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr
old daughter
cuz she likes kayaks............

Down on the plains, Wy is hot and boring. Up in the Mts, its cool
with aspens, lodgepole pines, streams, etc. They do have some big man
made lakes. Jackson lake really might be nice but is about 250 miles
from our place near Casper.

I s'pose I never really liked motorcycles. Had to give up mountain
biking, arthritis in wrists.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this
crap:

What, no motorcycles?

He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is
quite impressive.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

On Sep 24, 10:00 pm, Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this
crap:

What, no motorcycles?

He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is
quite impressive.



I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I'll admit, I am too wussy for motorcycles.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:29:43 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote this crap:

He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is
quite impressive.

I'll admit, I am too wussy for motorcycles.


You should hook up with Jon-boy.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.