"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Wilbur, Duncan lacks the ability to think out of the box. Exactly why
the Brit's gave up the right to bear arms.

We never had the _right_ to bear arms like in the US constitution.
After the security tightening all licensed holders of shotgun or other gun
permits had to show real need to be allowed to keep them. Reputable gunshop
businesses were forced to close and a couple of owners of them committed
suicide as their livelihood was taken away without compensatioon.
Many shotgun owners like myself voluntarily gave up our shotguns to the
police for destruction because for the sake of the occasional vermin shoot
we could not be arsed to cope with all the bureaucracy. But the criminals
did not give up their guns and gun crime in UK has increased ever since.
All this stems from a dreadful gun massacre in a school by a person against
whom the police had been warned but had failed to act. They had the power
but did not use it.
Then the politicians got into the act because after such a tragedy
politicians feel that they have to be seen to be doing something so they act
to penalise the law abiding population and the criminals carry on and
progress.
Politicians are the same everywhere. Not my favourite kind of people.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:05:15 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

What simplistic bull****! Getting more energy out than goes in?? This
sums up Wilma's level of understanding of the world. Don't bother to
read any further.


You never heard of nuclear fusion? That's more energy out than in. ot

Not really. Mass disappears. And it only works with elements lighter
than Iron. In time the universe will consist of pure iron, and if you
want to call that more out than in so be it.
It's
not so far-fetched to believe if it can be done at an atomic level then
why not at a molecular level.

Yes it is so farfetched.

Casady

On Sep 11, 1:56 pm, Gogarty wrote:
In article s.com,
says...



Burn salt water instead . . .

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Wilbur Hubbard

Hmmm. He's using radio frequencies to dissociate water into its
elements, hydrogen and oxygen. What becomes of the sodiumn and chlorine
ions? Not to mention the other elements and compounds found in sea
water. The only thing that's burning here is the hydrogen, either
recombining with the oxygen or after being piped away. And then there's
the chlorine. Does it recombine with hydrogen instead of sodium and
become HCl aka hydrochloric acid?

We'll be buring diesel for quite some time, I'm afraid.

I don't think this is what he is doing. If that was the case it
wouldn't need to be salt water. Distilled fresh water would be
preferred. They also said that it burns at 300 degrees F. Hydrogen
burns at less than 100 degrees Fahrenheit. He isn't just separating
out oxygen and hydrogen and burning the hydrogen. Something else is
going on here.

I don't think this is what he is doing. If that was the case it
wouldn't need to be salt water. Distilled fresh water would be
preferred. They also said that it burns at 300 degrees F. Hydrogen
burns at less than 100 degrees Fahrenheit. He isn't just separating
out oxygen and hydrogen and burning the hydrogen. Something else is
going on here.


Check your figures

Hydrogen burns way hotter than body temperature

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:18:23 +0100, "Richard"
wrote:



I don't think this is what he is doing. If that was the case it
wouldn't need to be salt water. Distilled fresh water would be
preferred. They also said that it burns at 300 degrees F. Hydrogen
burns at less than 100 degrees Fahrenheit. He isn't just separating
out oxygen and hydrogen and burning the hydrogen. Something else is
going on here.


Check your figures

Hydrogen burns way hotter than body temperature

Hot enough to melt aluminum oxide[as in saphire] and is actually used
for that.

casady

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:41:36 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote this crap:

Hot enough to melt aluminum oxide[as in saphire] and is actually used


"Sapphire."




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

On Sep 12, 12:18 am, "Richard" wrote:
I don't think this is what he is doing. If that was the case it
wouldn't need to be salt water. Distilled fresh water would be
preferred. They also said that it burns at 300 degrees F. Hydrogen
burns at less than 100 degrees Fahrenheit. He isn't just separating
out oxygen and hydrogen and burning the hydrogen. Something else is
going on here.

Check your figures

Hydrogen burns way hotter than body temperature

sorry typo I meant 1000 degrees F. It's technically 932 degrees F.
He said he got 3000 degrees F out of it.