Yeah, sure. That's why you don't know what a Hoyt boom is or what it
does.



You mean the model that you didn't know was used for staysails!!!???
BWAHAHAHHHA! Keep trying, Doug! There are at least two other vessels
besides ALerion and IP using the system for jibs and staysails. Know
who they are?
Do you know what's needed to install the system on a Tayana 37 and why
the sail needs to be cut lower and the boom angles adjusted? Which
should be changed, Doug...the knuckle from 57 degrees? Maybe we should
custom fabricate a pedestal due to the loads? I know the answer.

You're such a friken blow-hard. It's truly astonishing.


RB
35s5
NY

It's clear that he thinks being a sailor
is *cool*



I do think it's cool. I think it's fun, beautiful. relaxing, engaging,
challenging and great for friends, family and kids. It's a "cool"
thing to do and most people who do it are "cool" with me, especially
the ones who were "cool" enough to keep a sailboat in their lives.
Oh. Right. You ended up in a POWERBOAT!!!!


Hoooh ahhhh! HAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

On Sep 4, 12:07 pm,
Yeah, sure. That's why you don't know what a Hoyt boom is or what it
does.

Bobsprit wrote:
You mean the model that you didn't know was used for staysails!!!???

Why would a "staysail boom" not be used for staysails?

BWAHAHAHHHA! Keep trying, Doug!

Keep trying what? To get you to make sense when you try to talk about
sailing?

Bubbles, you haven't answered the question: what is the difference
between a Hoyt boom and any other type? It's very simple and easy.

DSK

Bubbles, you haven't answered the question: what is the difference
between a Hoyt boom and any other type? It's very simple and easy.



Doug, you're not going to shift the discussion, Doug. Anyone can go
look up the info on the Hoyt boom. You made this post, which makes NO
sense.

Or maybe
you simply don't know enough about sailing to recognize the
difference
between the Hoyt boom and a plain ol' staysail boom.

As I pointed out to Joe, he could use a system like that of the IP or
Alerion. They are the same unit with only a slight mod for deck camber
on some other boats. Joe's question about a staysail boom does not
exclude bringing in the model used on the Alerion.
Now that you know this (AFTER I posted that Island Packet uses it for
their staysails!), you're sadly trying to shift the focus. It aint
working.
Joe asked a question and got answers. You had nothing useful to add.

For anyone interested in Hoyt staysail or jib booms, CDI/Furlex
furlers and sails (exotic or otherwise) you can e-mail for technical
info and the better prices. In fact, I can beat any price of typical
online lofts and the sails won't come from China.
Why would any of this interest Doug, who is a powerboater, is anyone's
guess.


RB
35s5
NY

Bubbles, you haven't answered the question: what is the difference
between a Hoyt boom and any other type? It's very simple and easy.

"Capt. Rob" wrote:
Doug, you're not going to shift the discussion, Doug. Anyone can go
look up the info on the Hoyt boom.

Apparently, you can't... or you look it up and it makes no sense to
you.

The Hoyt boom is fixed in it's plane of rotation. In other words,
while a garden-variety staysail boom swingt side to side, and it also
lifts up & down. The Hoyt boom is fixed on two bearings so that it
swings only on an axis parallel to the stay on which the sail is set.
For any trim adjustment, the leach tension stays the same.



..... Joe's question about a staysail boom does not
exclude bringing in the model used on the Alerion.

Nope, it doesn't... Joe could use it, but you can't explain why he
should or shouldn't.

Anybody surprised?




For anyone interested in Hoyt staysail or jib booms, CDI/Furlex
furlers and sails (exotic or otherwise) you can e-mail for technical
info and the better prices. In fact, I can beat any price of typical
online lofts

Sure you can. Why wouldn't you have the lowest price on stuff you
don't comprehend?

DSK

The Hoyt boom is fixed in it's plane of rotation. In other words,
while a garden-variety staysail boom swingt side to side, and it also
lifts up & down.


And this excluded it from a discussion on staysails WHY??? Did Joe ask
for a specific staysail boom type? Please post where he did so we can
all know what you're carrying on about.

the leach tension stays the same.


Gee whiz, just like the online manual says!



Nope, it doesn't... Joe could use it, but you can't explain why he
should or shouldn't.


I did already, Doug. The Hoyt system's advantages were outlined and
anyone can read the info on the site. The advantages over a standard
staysail boom were already pointed out.
The problem, Doug, as usual, is that you can't stand that I not only
know about this stuff, but also use it.
BTW, since you claim to have sailed the A28, please explain how the
jib boom was in your way on the boat? I have never heard this
complaint before on a boat designed for sailors to sail from the
cockpit. Just what did you go forward for and how many times did you
trip? We're dying to know!
Keep reading those issues of Cruising World.


RB
35s5
NY

The Hoyt boom is fixed in it's plane of rotation. In other words,
while a garden-variety staysail boom swingt side to side, and it also
lifts up & down.

Bobsprit wrote:
And this excluded it from a discussion on staysails WHY???

It doesn't.

That's why I mentioned it.

I don't know why you claimed to know all about it, when you didn't
know (and still don't comprehend) what makes it different.



I did already, Doug.

Already did what?

You got three chances to explain the difference between a Hoyt boom
and other types.... thundering silence.... kind of like when you
claimed Robert Perry said a Beneteau 35s5 has an IOR-influenced
tucked



BTW, since you claim to have sailed the A28, please explain how the
jib boom was in your way on the boat?


It's in the way of anybody who tries ot work on the foredeck.

..... I have never heard this
complaint before on a boat designed for sailors to sail from the
cockpit.


Maybe they never docked or anchored the boat. How about you?

BTW I've not only sailed the Shumacher designed Alerion Express 28,
but an original Herreshoff Alerion, and I had a chance to chat briefly
with Carl Shumacher about comparing the designs, back when it was a
new boat. Oh wait, that's dropping names again isn't it? Sorry.

DSK

That's why I mentioned it.



Uh, no, little Doug. I mentioned it. You only came in all in a huff
with nothing to add and all threatened as usual.


It's in the way of anybody who tries ot work on the foredeck.


This is about the dumbest item ever. The A28 is setup so you don't
work the foredeck. I know you've never sailed one ever. There's no
need to go forward. And if you did the boom is no more in the way than
the sail would be when hoisted. The whole point of the thing is to
reduce foredeckl work for people who aren't fit or agile enough to
step over a boom...like YOU, Doug!


Carl Shumacher about comparing the designs, back when it was a
new boat. Oh wait, that's dropping names again isn't it?


Golly, Doug. We're all very impressed!



RB
35s5
NY

You got three chances to explain the difference between a Hoyt boom
and other types.... thundering silence.... kind of like when you
claimed Robert Perry said a Beneteau 35s5 has an IOR-influenced
tucked


Oh no! I missed my chance to cite stuff that Doug will claim I found
on a website!
Pics of the 35s5 flanks will settle everything soon. Best to do it
when she's on the hard.
And don't forget that humiliation I'll add to your life on the J29
issue. I haven't forgotten that and she's due to be hauled soon at my
yard.
I back up what I say, while you just chant on and on, trawler boy!

I'll be sailing tomorrow while you sit at home! Now look at this,
Doug....here's a pretty lady who cares about her husband and wouldn't
want him stuck on a trawler....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...s35s5/Lab3.jpg

And that's the only reason you even answer my trolls, Doug. You struck
out bigtime.




RB
35s5
NY

You got three chances to explain the difference between a Hoyt boom
and other types.... thundering silence.... kind of like when you
claimed Robert Perry said a Beneteau 35s5 has an IOR-influenced
tucked

Bobsprit wrote:
Oh no! I missed my chance to cite stuff that Doug will claim I found
on a website!

Like the way you found a Robert Perry article that backed up what I
said about "your" boat? Go ahead and tell everyone again what an
expert you are!

Pics of the 35s5 flanks will settle everything soon.

Yep, sure will.


I'll be sailing tomorrow while you sit at home!

Not quite, Bubbles.

I'm out cruising, remember? Ever hear of "wireless"?

And that's the only reason you even answer my trolls, Doug.

Your posts are just trolls, aren't they Bubbles? Nothing you say has
any substance in reality, least of all your claims about sailing. But
you're a great troller, and that's what really counts.... to you....

DSK