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We all scream for sunscreen...
What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... |
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On Aug 13, 6:05 pm, katy wrote:
Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I used that No Ad crap on my face and neck before a job interview. I sat there looking like a toad with blisters and bumps on my face and neck. I didn't get the job. Ocean Potion puts orange sweat marks and ring around the collar on my clothes. Bleach won't take the stains out but soaking overnight in Oxyclean does. I tried Bull Frog, but if you don't put it on fast enough, it dries really fast and you look like you have pieces of dried snot on your face. Now i use that spray on Bull Frog. I luv the stuff. It doubles as aftershave because it has alcohol in it and stings your face. They even have a version with Deet in it. |
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... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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oups.com... On Aug 13, 6:05 pm, katy wrote: Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I used that No Ad crap on my face and neck before a job interview. I sat there looking like a toad with blisters and bumps on my face and neck. I didn't get the job. Ocean Potion puts orange sweat marks and ring around the collar on my clothes. Bleach won't take the stains out but soaking overnight in Oxyclean does. I tried Bull Frog, but if you don't put it on fast enough, it dries really fast and you look like you have pieces of dried snot on your face. Now i use that spray on Bull Frog. I luv the stuff. It doubles as aftershave because it has alcohol in it and stings your face. They even have a version with Deet in it. Jeez... you guys have some strange skin. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I have a friend who's skin was severely damaged from the sun, mainly because she didn't follow siimple precautions, such as covering up, staying out of the mid-day sun, and not applying sunscreen on a regular basis. Feel free to damage your own skin, but I think I'll pass. http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo.../risk/159.html http://www.burnsurvivorsttw.org/articles/sundamage.html http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/01462.html http://www.aocd.org/skin/prevsun.html http://telemedicine.org/sundam/sundam2.4.1.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...-exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... |
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"roger" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 13, 6:05 pm, katy wrote: Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I used that No Ad crap on my face and neck before a job interview. I sat there looking like a toad with blisters and bumps on my face and neck. I didn't get the job. Ocean Potion puts orange sweat marks and ring around the collar on my clothes. Bleach won't take the stains out but soaking overnight in Oxyclean does. I tried Bull Frog, but if you don't put it on fast enough, it dries really fast and you look like you have pieces of dried snot on your face. Now i use that spray on Bull Frog. I luv the stuff. It doubles as aftershave because it has alcohol in it and stings your face. They even have a version with Deet in it. Jeez... you guys have some strange skin. No....it is common with people with allergies....the No-Ad fake tan stuff does the same thing...I know quite a few people that have reacted that way to it...it is a chemical, after all, and you are pouring it into your pores where it is difficult to sweat out... |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I have a friend who's skin was severely damaged from the sun, mainly because she didn't follow siimple precautions, such as covering up, staying out of the mid-day sun, and not applying sunscreen on a regular basis. Feel free to damage your own skin, but I think I'll pass. http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo.../risk/159.html http://www.burnsurvivorsttw.org/articles/sundamage.html http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/01462.html http://www.aocd.org/skin/prevsun.html http://telemedicine.org/sundam/sundam2.4.1.html You always take everything to the extreme, Jon...no one said go stand out in the midday sun frying yourself into human bacon. There are safe times to be out. You ahve to watch the UV ratings for the day and apply whatever you use in accordance with the conditions. Try not being such an extremist...your shrieking hurts peoples ears. |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...-exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... Katy, if you're outdoors at all... walking to your car, to the post office, you're getting all you need. Promoting not putting sunscreen on when boating, an enviroment that lends itself to intense sun exposure, is downright dangerous. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...-exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... Katy, if you're outdoors at all... walking to your car, to the post office, you're getting all you need. Promoting not putting sunscreen on when boating, an enviroment that lends itself to intense sun exposure, is downright dangerous. You'd better shut yourself away in a cave, then, Jon...the world might get you.... ' |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...-exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... Katy, if you're outdoors at all... walking to your car, to the post office, you're getting all you need. Promoting not putting sunscreen on when boating, an enviroment that lends itself to intense sun exposure, is downright dangerous. You'd better shut yourself away in a cave, then, Jon...the world might get you.... ' Insult me all you want, but I don't think listening to day-time TV is the best place to find the facts. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I have a friend who's skin was severely damaged from the sun, mainly because she didn't follow siimple precautions, such as covering up, staying out of the mid-day sun, and not applying sunscreen on a regular basis. Feel free to damage your own skin, but I think I'll pass. http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo.../risk/159.html http://www.burnsurvivorsttw.org/articles/sundamage.html http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/01462.html http://www.aocd.org/skin/prevsun.html http://telemedicine.org/sundam/sundam2.4.1.html You always take everything to the extreme, Jon...no one said go stand out in the midday sun frying yourself into human bacon. There are safe times to be out. You ahve to watch the UV ratings for the day and apply whatever you use in accordance with the conditions. Try not being such an extremist...your shrieking hurts peoples ears. You're the one who said to remain unprotected for 15 minutes. According to the lit., you need cover up 15-20 minutes *before* exposure. Thus, with your "plan," you'll get a full 1/2 hour before the protection. Doesn't sound very temperate to me. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...-exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... Katy, if you're outdoors at all... walking to your car, to the post office, you're getting all you need. Promoting not putting sunscreen on when boating, an enviroment that lends itself to intense sun exposure, is downright dangerous. You'd better shut yourself away in a cave, then, Jon...the world might get you.... ' Insult me all you want, but I don't think listening to day-time TV is the best place to find the facts. I pointed out several websites that concurred with those facts....inslt? I didn't see any insult...calling you a lame brain would be an insult...I didn;t call you any names...I just suggested that maybe, if the world is so scary to you, a cave might be a better place for you to spend your time... |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I have a friend who's skin was severely damaged from the sun, mainly because she didn't follow siimple precautions, such as covering up, staying out of the mid-day sun, and not applying sunscreen on a regular basis. Feel free to damage your own skin, but I think I'll pass. http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo.../risk/159.html http://www.burnsurvivorsttw.org/articles/sundamage.html http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/01462.html http://www.aocd.org/skin/prevsun.html http://telemedicine.org/sundam/sundam2.4.1.html You always take everything to the extreme, Jon...no one said go stand out in the midday sun frying yourself into human bacon. There are safe times to be out. You ahve to watch the UV ratings for the day and apply whatever you use in accordance with the conditions. Try not being such an extremist...your shrieking hurts peoples ears. You're the one who said to remain unprotected for 15 minutes. According to the lit., you need cover up 15-20 minutes *before* exposure. Thus, with your "plan," you'll get a full 1/2 hour before the protection. Doesn't sound very temperate to me. Like I said, you have to watch the variables, like the UV ratings for the day, and you ahve to know your own tolerance...I can stay out for a half hour and not tan...as can many people...many cannot...those wioth very ;pink or pale skins suffer more from exposure....probelm with you is tyhat you like to set black and white rules for everyone...and you like to have everyone follow them because they're scared...sounds more like you're trying to start a religion than offering adviise on suntanning or exposure.... |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...-exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... Katy, if you're outdoors at all... walking to your car, to the post office, you're getting all you need. Promoting not putting sunscreen on when boating, an enviroment that lends itself to intense sun exposure, is downright dangerous. You'd better shut yourself away in a cave, then, Jon...the world might get you.... ' Insult me all you want, but I don't think listening to day-time TV is the best place to find the facts. I pointed out several websites that concurred with those facts....inslt? I didn't see any insult...calling you a lame brain would be an insult...I didn;t call you any names...I just suggested that maybe, if the world is so scary to you, a cave might be a better place for you to spend your time... 1) "Why you aren't more well read is beyond me...." 2) "You'd better shut yourself away in a cave, then, Jon...the world might get you...." Endearing comments I presume? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I have a friend who's skin was severely damaged from the sun, mainly because she didn't follow siimple precautions, such as covering up, staying out of the mid-day sun, and not applying sunscreen on a regular basis. Feel free to damage your own skin, but I think I'll pass. http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo.../risk/159.html http://www.burnsurvivorsttw.org/articles/sundamage.html http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/HQ/01462.html http://www.aocd.org/skin/prevsun.html http://telemedicine.org/sundam/sundam2.4.1.html You always take everything to the extreme, Jon...no one said go stand out in the midday sun frying yourself into human bacon. There are safe times to be out. You ahve to watch the UV ratings for the day and apply whatever you use in accordance with the conditions. Try not being such an extremist...your shrieking hurts peoples ears. You're the one who said to remain unprotected for 15 minutes. According to the lit., you need cover up 15-20 minutes *before* exposure. Thus, with your "plan," you'll get a full 1/2 hour before the protection. Doesn't sound very temperate to me. Like I said, you have to watch the variables, like the UV ratings for the day, and you ahve to know your own tolerance...I can stay out for a half hour and not tan...as can many people...many cannot...those wioth very ;pink or pale skins suffer more from exposure....probelm with you is tyhat you like to set black and white rules for everyone...and you like to have everyone follow them because they're scared...sounds more like you're trying to start a religion than offering adviise on suntanning or exposure.... And your skin color... black/dark skin resists damage more than your lily whites. Sounds like you didn't read your own posted links. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:35:20 -0400, katy wrote:
This isn't what dermatologists stay. You should be applying sunblock 15-20 minutes before exposure. Tanning in intense sun can take place in much less than 15 minutes and no tanning is good. Where you get this stuff, I have no idea. I got it originally from a dermatologist on the Today SHow... but just in case you don't know how to Google, put benefits of 15 minutes in the sun into your search and see what happens..or read this to start: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30769.php http://www.sunsmart.org.nz/skin-canc...nefits-of-sun- exposure.aspx http://www.articleclick.com/Article/...unlight/919158 Why you aren't more well read is beyond me.... To confuse the matter more, there have been some recent studies showing that sun block does prevent sunburns, but might also increase the chances of skin cancers. http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/c...ll/91/15/1263A http://www.fitness-beauty-spa.com/sun.html#3 Then if you must use sun screens: http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc/120/sunscreen |
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"roger" wrote: katy wrote: Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I used that No Ad crap on my face and neck before a job interview. I sat there looking like a toad with blisters and bumps on my face and neck. I didn't get the job. Ocean Potion puts orange sweat marks and ring around the collar on my clothes. Bleach won't take the stains out but soaking overnight in Oxyclean does. I tried Bull Frog, but if you don't put it on fast enough, it dries really fast and you look like you have pieces of dried snot on your face. Now i use that spray on Bull Frog. I luv the stuff. It doubles as aftershave because it has alcohol in it and stings your face. They even have a version with Deet in it. Lol, great testimonials! Think I'll stick with my Water Babies! Lol... Seahag |
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Seahag wrote:
"roger" wrote: katy wrote: Capt. JG wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. If you have any types of allergies, watch the No_Ad one...gave me little blisters and bumps...I only use 15 when I use any at all....the ebst protection agaisnt "bad rays" is to go unexposed fr the first 15 minutes...the bkody has its' own defense mechanism that triggers the pigment in the skin to protect but only after 15 minutes...you also need that amount of time to absorb Vitamin d...then after 15 minutes put on the block or screen or whatever...I am most fortunate that I have olive skin so don't burn very easily.... I used that No Ad crap on my face and neck before a job interview. I sat there looking like a toad with blisters and bumps on my face and neck. I didn't get the job. Ocean Potion puts orange sweat marks and ring around the collar on my clothes. Bleach won't take the stains out but soaking overnight in Oxyclean does. I tried Bull Frog, but if you don't put it on fast enough, it dries really fast and you look like you have pieces of dried snot on your face. Now i use that spray on Bull Frog. I luv the stuff. It doubles as aftershave because it has alcohol in it and stings your face. They even have a version with Deet in it. Lol, great testimonials! Think I'll stick with my Water Babies! Lol... Seahag Did you get the one that's purple until it soaks in? I bought some of that for the kids and Mr Sails grabbed it instead of his usaul...hahahahaha.....he always pours gobs on and it took him a while before he stopped looking like Barney...I've been using Australian Gold..it's not greasy and seems to do the trick...about the only casualty I had this year was the rim of my ears when I was wearing a baseball cap instead of a wide brim one day... |
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There is a lot of hype put about regarding the dangers of sun exposure
put about by those profiting from the cancer creation industry. Remember for each person who dies of skin cancer 30 excess deaths occur in the most common cancers breast prostate lung colon, These and 13 other cancers thrive in vitamin d depleted bodies. Applying sunscreen/sunblock prevents UVB rays from reaching the skin. Putting it on before you go out therefore totally prevents any vitamin d being made. This is why the average European woman has Vitamin d status around 50nmol/L, the level needed for maximum calcium absorption is 80nmol/L and to have 50% less breast cancer it's best to have 130nmol/L. If the advice from "Official" sources was correct we would not have the current deficiency epidemic. 9 out of 10 UK White adults are below 75nomol/l in Winter and 60% remain so the whole year. If you take the official RDA vitamin D and follow official RDA advice you will be vitamin d deficient. Similarly if you rely on your doctor to correct that deficiency you will be ill advised as they generally prescribe D2 Ergocalciferol and The Case Against Ergocalciferol as a Vitamin Supplement explains why. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/84/4/694 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...rch=1 7259988 DCs metabolize sunlight-induced vitamin D3 to 'program' T cell attraction to the epidermal chemokine CCL27. explains how when UVB rays touch your skin the first thing the newly made Vitamin D3 does is to program your "T"Cells to start fighting skin cancer. Vitamin D synthesis is a heat driven self-limiting process. This means you need an erythemal index above 3 and UVB rays. These are only present when your shadow is shorter than your height and if you live above latitude 37 during the summer. The self-limiting bit means that once the cholesterol in your skin is converted to vitamin d3 it then should further heat be applied, be further processed into suprasterols. These are not used. So to maximise your vitamin D production you need to GO INSIDE or COVER UP after 20 minutes. (you will make 1000iu every 5 minutes so 20 minutes full body (or near as possible) exposure provides the amount you use daily. If you are trying to build stores for the Winter or rectify a deficiency situation then wait an hour for your skin to cool and the vitamin d to be absorbed then try for another 15 mins. But be aware 10,000iu is about all that the body usually makes each day so is a natural maximum. So 1x 20 + 2 x 15mins exposures are around the most anyone can benefit from. |
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"tedhutchinson" wrote in message
ups.com... There is a lot of hype put about regarding the dangers of sun exposure put about by those profiting from the cancer creation industry. Remember for each person who dies of skin cancer 30 excess deaths occur in the most common cancers breast prostate lung colon, These and 13 other cancers thrive in vitamin d depleted bodies. Oh what complete bs. Do you really believe that using sunscreen prevents all UVB or UVA from getting through? Have you even read the literature? Unless you have very dark skin, typically brown/black, and if you live in areas that don't get much sun (like extreme north or south), you get plenty of sun. Do you put on sunscreen walking to the car, to the mall, to the mailbox? Feel free to die of skin cancer if that's your choice.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 13, 4:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. To keep from burning I simply stay out of the sun as best I can. Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. |
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On Aug 14, 6:48 pm, ladysailor wrote:
On Aug 13, 4:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. To keep from burning I simply stay out of the sun as best I can. Barb s/v Arabellawww.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. http://www.cookislands.org.uk/image/...nga-aerial.jpg Where are you anchored? Are you fishing any? Anything exotic/exciting happening? How's Mike? What sat phone are you guys using? You like it? I agree on the sunscreen, everyone here working in the marina looks like arabs with white cotton headresses (White T shirt cotton taped on). I perfer a ball cap with a neck covering tail flap. No greasy products. A covered wheelhouse is great to prevent skin cancer. Joe |
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"ladysailor" wrote in message ups.com... I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. Smart girl. You'll save lots of money that way. Considering the huge expanse of surface area you have it would take gallons. :-) Wilbur Hubbard |
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ladysailor wrote:
On Aug 13, 4:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. To keep from burning I simply stay out of the sun as best I can. Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. Wow! The Cook Islands! envy envy Another thing that bothers me about some of the lotions is that they are heavily perfumed...I do not like walking around smelling like a pina colada, but the skeeters like it! |
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"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 13, 4:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. To keep from burning I simply stay out of the sun as best I can. Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. I don't think most people use sunscreen on the bottoms of their feet, but if that's what you do, I agree you should refrain. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... ladysailor wrote: On Aug 13, 4:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. To keep from burning I simply stay out of the sun as best I can. Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. Wow! The Cook Islands! envy envy Another thing that bothers me about some of the lotions is that they are heavily perfumed...I do not like walking around smelling like a pina colada, but the skeeters like it! You might want to be a bit more selective about the sunscreen. The good ones tend to be oderless and non-greasy. Things have changed since 1952. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 14, 7:01 pm, Joe wrote:
On Aug 14, 6:48 pm, ladysailor wrote: On Aug 13, 4:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... Consumer Reports rated Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry-Touch SPF 45 as the best and the best buy as No-Ad Sunblock Lotion Maximum SPF 45. Both are highly rated for UVA and UVB. -- "j" ganz I don't use any sun screen. I don't like being all greasy and in fact, I think it's dangerous to be slip sliding around the boat. To keep from burning I simply stay out of the sun as best I can. Barb s/v Arabellawww.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. http://www.cookislands.org.uk/image/...nga-aerial.jpg Where are you anchored? Are you fishing any? Anything exotic/exciting happening? How's Mike? What sat phone are you guys using? You like it? I agree on the sunscreen, everyone here working in the marina looks like arabs with white cotton headresses (White T shirt cotton taped on). I perfer a ball cap with a neck covering tail flap. No greasy products. A covered wheelhouse is great to prevent skin cancer. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We are med moored to the quay in the town of Avarua on the island of Rarotonga. It's a small little harbor with about six other cruising boats here. No, we don't do much fishing, it makes a mess of the decks and after the third time we forgot to pull in the line before anchoring I hid the fishing rod. Cutting fishing line off the prop is no fun! Besides, fresh fish is plentiful in every port. Not much excitement here, we are living "Island Time", slow and easy. It was a bit exhilarating getting here though. Five day passage from Bora Bora and all was well until the last 20 hours where we had 30 knot winds and 12 ft. seas. We were on a beam reach and with our rain gear on we steered from the side with our backs to the wind and the waves that washed over us. I found that it wasn't such a bad thing when the warm ocean water filled our cockpit well to warm my cold pruny feet. Mike's great, just now he's up on deck working on his computer and in fact just called me up to look at the weather forecast. It looks like we are going to see some big wind this coming weekend, 35 knots blowing straight into the harbor, ugh! I may be looking into hotel accommodations for that little bit. No, we don't have a sat phone. When we want to reach out and touch someone we use the single side band or internet. While passage making we usually check in with the Pacific Seafarers Net. Kia Manula (May good fortune shine on you), Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... I make my own out of mayonnaise , horseradish sauce and bacon grease. SPF is 72. SBV |
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"Scotty" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... I make my own out of mayonnaise , horseradish sauce and bacon grease. SPF is 72. SBV You forgot the cilantro. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"katy" wrote: Seahag wrote: Think I'll stick with my Water Babies! Did you get the one that's purple until it soaks in? I bought some of that for the kids and Mr Sails grabbed it instead of his usaul...hahahahaha.....he always pours gobs on and it took him a while before he stopped looking like Barney...I've been using Australian Gold..it's not greasy and seems to do the trick...about the only casualty I had this year was the rim of my ears when I was wearing a baseball cap instead of a wide brim one day... Haha, no it's not purple! The kids musta got a hoot out of that! It was what was laying around the boatyard when I was working there full time in the sun. Now I just stick with long pants, long sleeved shirts, and my big ass gardening hat. I still get pretty dark here and there but no burns. People give me funny looks when I got to the dermatologist's...I tend to stick out of the pasty white crowd. Seahag |
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"ladysailor" wrote: s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. Nice pics! Are ya headed for Vanuatu?! Seahag |
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"Scotty" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... I make my own out of mayonnaise , horseradish sauce and bacon grease. SPF is 72. What? No squirty cheese??? Seahag |
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"Seahag" wrote in message news:u0Dwi.393$7f.352@trndny09... "Scotty" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote: We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... I make my own out of mayonnaise , horseradish sauce and bacon grease. SPF is 72. What? No squirty cheese??? Phtttt, that goes without saying. ;) |
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On Aug 15, 8:14 am, "Seahag" wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote: s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. Nice pics! Are ya headed for Vanuatu?! Seahag Vanuatu's on the list for next year. From here we are headed for Tonga then Fiji and should be in New Zealand by November. Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... We all scream for sunscreen... What do you use? Maybe you should think about upgrading... I make my own out of mayonnaise , horseradish sauce and bacon grease. SPF is 72. SBV You forgot the cilantro. ...and the brown sugar.... |
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Seahag wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote: s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. Nice pics! Are ya headed for Vanuatu?! Seahag Really nice pics....that's one loud sarong there, Barb....blast yer eyeballs right out! |
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On Aug 15, 4:30 pm, katy wrote:
Seahag wrote: "ladysailor" wrote: s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands. Nice pics! Are ya headed for Vanuatu?! Seahag Really nice pics....that's one loud sarong there, Barb....blast yer eyeballs right out! Thanks. The sarong was part of my birthday presents. Mike likes loud, you may have noticed some of his tie-dyed tee shirts. |
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"ladysailor" wrote in message oups.com.. .. Mike likes loud, you may have noticed some of his tie-dyed tee shirts. Oh...I thought that was your new spinnaker. Scotty |
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