On 14 Aug, 19:58, "Capt. JG" wrote:

Oh what complete bs. Do you really believe that using sunscreen prevents all
UVB or UVA from getting through? Have you even read the literature? Unless
you have very dark skin, typically brown/black, and if you live in areas
that don't get much sun (like extreme north or south), you get plenty of
sun. Do you put on sunscreen walking to the car, to the mall, to the
mailbox?

Feel free to die of skin cancer if that's your choice....

--
"j" ganz

If it were the case that casual sun exposure provided sufficient
Vitamin D to meet our daily needs we would not have the current
epidemic of Vitamin D insufficiency.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860 shows the 9 out of
10 UK adults have less than 75nmol/L in the Winter and 60% remain
deficient during the Summer.

Feel free to die of those 17 cancers that thrive in Vitamin D
insufficient bodies if that's your choice but I'd rather risk skin
cancer than all this lot. lung, prostate, colon, breast ovary uterus
bladder Oesophagus kidney pancreas stomach gallbladder larynx Hodgkin
lymphoma non Hodgkin lymphoma myeloma For each skin cancer death there
are over 30 attibutable to the effects of low vitamin D status.

Even melanoma is inversly related to vitamin D status. Those people
with melanoma who have the highest vitamin D status have the best
prognosis and the fewest repeats. The central cause of melanoma, is
not sun exposure, but an imbalance in the omega 6 to 3 fat ratio.
Epidemiological, experimental, and mechanistic data implicate omega-6
fat as stimulators and long-chain omega-3 fats as inhibitors of
development and progression of a range of human cancers, including
melanoma.
Rather than promote the use of sunscreens and severely limit the
valuable benefits of UV-B radiation, we should encourage the judicious
use of clothing and timed sun exposure.

"katy" wrote:
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
"Seahag" wrote:

If there's any wind those hats are next to useless.

Actually, my gardening hat is good to around 60 mph.
then I need to change over to a ballcap.

You might not want to wear it toward the end of October.
:-)

That's when she adds the broom...
Funny you should mention that...Mr.H just bought me a
new broom!

Which model? How fast does it go?

Hardware House cheapo, but it has nice red trim and natural
brisles. I'm still breaking it in so I can't really punch
it yet.

Seahag

On Aug 15, 6:50 pm, katy wrote:
ladysailor wrote:
On Aug 15, 4:30 pm, katy wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote:

s/v Arabella
www.sailinglinks.com

Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands.

Nice pics! Are ya headed for Vanuatu?!

Seahag

Really nice pics....that's one loud sarong there, Barb....blast yer
eyeballs right out!

Thanks. The sarong was part of my birthday presents. Mike likes
loud, you may have noticed some of his tie-dyed tee shirts.

Aw...he's just an ancient hippie at heart there...I remember making
those things in the ktichen (much to my mother's chagrin)...all those
rubberbands! Besides, you'll both fit in with the tropical flowers!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ancient?!?!?!? Puhleese! I'm a classic!

Mike

"tedhutchinson" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 14 Aug, 19:58, "Capt. JG" wrote:

Oh what complete bs. Do you really believe that using sunscreen prevents
all
UVB or UVA from getting through? Have you even read the literature?
Unless
you have very dark skin, typically brown/black, and if you live in areas
that don't get much sun (like extreme north or south), you get plenty of
sun. Do you put on sunscreen walking to the car, to the mall, to the
mailbox?

Feel free to die of skin cancer if that's your choice....

--
"j" ganz

If it were the case that casual sun exposure provided sufficient
Vitamin D to meet our daily needs we would not have the current
epidemic of Vitamin D insufficiency.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860 shows the 9 out of
10 UK adults have less than 75nmol/L in the Winter and 60% remain
deficient during the Summer.

Feel free to die of those 17 cancers that thrive in Vitamin D
insufficient bodies if that's your choice but I'd rather risk skin
cancer than all this lot. lung, prostate, colon, breast ovary uterus
bladder Oesophagus kidney pancreas stomach gallbladder larynx Hodgkin
lymphoma non Hodgkin lymphoma myeloma For each skin cancer death there
are over 30 attibutable to the effects of low vitamin D status.

Even melanoma is inversly related to vitamin D status. Those people
with melanoma who have the highest vitamin D status have the best
prognosis and the fewest repeats. The central cause of melanoma, is
not sun exposure, but an imbalance in the omega 6 to 3 fat ratio.
Epidemiological, experimental, and mechanistic data implicate omega-6
fat as stimulators and long-chain omega-3 fats as inhibitors of
development and progression of a range of human cancers, including
melanoma.
Rather than promote the use of sunscreens and severely limit the
valuable benefits of UV-B radiation, we should encourage the judicious
use of clothing and timed sun exposure.



Key phrase... UK adults. We actually see sun from time to time.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Aug 15, 7:07 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote in message

oups.com..
.

Mike likes
loud, you may have noticed some of his tie-dyed tee

shirts.

Oh...I thought that was your new spinnaker.

Scotty

When we were in Mexico one of the cruising boats had a tie-dyed riding
sail while at anchor. It was cool looking and we asked them about
it. Turns out these folks had a a tie-dye business that put their
five kids through college and afforded them a retirement cruising the
gold coast of Mexico.

BTW, we are using Mike's yellow boxers for our Q flag here in the
Pacific.

Barb
s/v Arabella
www.sailinglinks.com

"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...

BTW, we are using Mike's yellow boxers for our Q flag here in the
Pacific.

Too Much Un-necessary Information

Seahag wrote:
"

Which model? How fast does it go?


Hardware House cheapo, but it has nice red trim and natural
brisles. I'm still breaking it in so I can't really punch
it yet.

Seahag


Good durable model..should get you to Baltimore and back with no
problems but I'd avoid the DC Beltway...

cruisin wrote:
On Aug 15, 6:50 pm, katy wrote:

ladysailor wrote:

On Aug 15, 4:30 pm, katy wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote:

s/v Arabella
www.sailinglinks.com

Current location: Rarotonga, Southern Cook Islands.

Nice pics! Are ya headed for Vanuatu?!

Seahag

Really nice pics....that's one loud sarong there, Barb....blast yer
eyeballs right out!

Thanks. The sarong was part of my birthday presents. Mike likes
loud, you may have noticed some of his tie-dyed tee shirts.

Aw...he's just an ancient hippie at heart there...I remember making
those things in the ktichen (much to my mother's chagrin)...all those
rubberbands! Besides, you'll both fit in with the tropical flowers!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ancient?!?!?!? Puhleese! I'm a classic!

Mike

Hey...I remember tye dying so puts me in the same category....

Capt. JG wrote:
"tedhutchinson" wrote in message
ups.com...

On 14 Aug, 19:58, "Capt. JG" wrote:


Oh what complete bs. Do you really believe that using sunscreen prevents
all
UVB or UVA from getting through? Have you even read the literature?
Unless
you have very dark skin, typically brown/black, and if you live in areas
that don't get much sun (like extreme north or south), you get plenty of
sun. Do you put on sunscreen walking to the car, to the mall, to the
mailbox?

Feel free to die of skin cancer if that's your choice....

--
"j" ganz

If it were the case that casual sun exposure provided sufficient
Vitamin D to meet our daily needs we would not have the current
epidemic of Vitamin D insufficiency.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860 shows the 9 out of
10 UK adults have less than 75nmol/L in the Winter and 60% remain
deficient during the Summer.

Feel free to die of those 17 cancers that thrive in Vitamin D
insufficient bodies if that's your choice but I'd rather risk skin
cancer than all this lot. lung, prostate, colon, breast ovary uterus
bladder Oesophagus kidney pancreas stomach gallbladder larynx Hodgkin
lymphoma non Hodgkin lymphoma myeloma For each skin cancer death there
are over 30 attibutable to the effects of low vitamin D status.

Even melanoma is inversly related to vitamin D status. Those people
with melanoma who have the highest vitamin D status have the best
prognosis and the fewest repeats. The central cause of melanoma, is
not sun exposure, but an imbalance in the omega 6 to 3 fat ratio.
Epidemiological, experimental, and mechanistic data implicate omega-6
fat as stimulators and long-chain omega-3 fats as inhibitors of
development and progression of a range of human cancers, including
melanoma.
Rather than promote the use of sunscreens and severely limit the
valuable benefits of UV-B radiation, we should encourage the judicious
use of clothing and timed sun exposure.




Key phrase... UK adults. We actually see sun from time to time.

Key phrase: US Adults and CHildren

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/77333.php

http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/con...158/6/531?etoc

http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/con...158/6/531?etoc

ladysailor wrote:
On Aug 15, 7:07 pm, "Scotty" wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote in message

groups.com..
.


Mike likes
loud, you may have noticed some of his tie-dyed tee

shirts.

Oh...I thought that was your new spinnaker.

Scotty


When we were in Mexico one of the cruising boats had a tie-dyed riding
sail while at anchor. It was cool looking and we asked them about
it. Turns out these folks had a a tie-dye business that put their
five kids through college and afforded them a retirement cruising the
gold coast of Mexico.

BTW, we are using Mike's yellow boxers for our Q flag here in the
Pacific.

Barb
s/v Arabella
www.sailinglinks.com


That would convince me..