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Bart August 11th 07 07:48 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
A couple of times I've seen people that were smart
enough to do their research on paper, and buy a
quality boat that was too much for them, and then
realized they were over their heads and seek
professional help when that sense of panic sets in.

Have you seen or felt that "What have I done to myself
now!" feeling. These people suddenly realized that
their skills are not up to the task. I hope they realize
there is a very real danger of death or disaster.

Years ago it was a couple intending to sail around
the world on a older Full Keel Pacific Seacraft, only
to find they were terrified to dock the boat--even
after taking lessons. Even with spring lines that boat
was the most difficult boat I've ever had to dock,
because of the full keel, and horrible rudder.

This week I had a chance to sail a gorgeous wooden
Hinckley. This couple clearly learned that Hinckley
yachts were classy boats. The size was right, and
perhaps the price also-it is a wooden boat. But
it was also an older boat and older boats need
skilled maintenance. Any boat this size needs
a confident and skilled skipper.

The boat had two nice Lewmar self-tailers, and
roller furling for the genoa. I didn't pull out the
other sails because the fresh varnish has glued
the aft lazarette closed. Many of the cleats were
updated to gorgeous stainless steel Herreshoft cleats.
That was about it for updating in the area of deck
hardware.

The boat looked great. Nice varnish, solid hull,
good sails, and perfect decks. But beauty is only
skin deep.

There was no reefing gear except for reef points. No
turning blocks, no pad-eyes to attach reef lines. No
tack hook or any other means of securing the tack
when reefed. Just a few dangling reef points that
were meant only to keep the sail from falling down
--not for taking a load!

The traveler was two slides with an awkward pin which
needed to be dropped to the low side the let the main
out all the way--the main sheet was too short.

Gybing was a breeze because there was so much
friction in the blocks, the main could not come over
hard. Also, the short main sheet meant it was impossible
to slam the boom into the shrouds.

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

The tiller looked like it came off of a 15' day-sailor. I found
a replacement tiller in the lazarette. Clearly, the prior
owner planned to replace the temporary one that was
installed with the better used one but never got around to it.

The engine wasn't running too well. When a diesel
stalls--it's bad news. The engine surged and ran poorly
at lower throttle settings. It stalled several times. It
was not charging the batteries. I was unable to tighten
the alternator belt without a long screw driver for a lever.
The batteries read between 12.0 and 12.4 Volts. I think
they are damaged.

While it was a fine boat, it was not the best boat for
beginners without any mechanical or electrical skills.

I did my best to explain what was needed to update
the boat and got "lost and confused" looks. I showed
them how to sail off the mooring and how to sail back
but they seemed afraid to sail the boat even though
it actually handled quite well under sail.

I tried to explain that the boat could be changed and
they could chose how to change it for the better. I don't
think I got through. I hope and pray that this will be
a wonderful learning experience for them, not a
string of disasters.

Bart


katy August 11th 07 02:23 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Bart wrote:
A couple of times I've seen people that were smart
enough to do their research on paper, and buy a
quality boat that was too much for them, and then
realized they were over their heads and seek
professional help when that sense of panic sets in.

Have you seen or felt that "What have I done to myself
now!" feeling. These people suddenly realized that
their skills are not up to the task. I hope they realize
there is a very real danger of death or disaster.

Years ago it was a couple intending to sail around
the world on a older Full Keel Pacific Seacraft, only
to find they were terrified to dock the boat--even
after taking lessons. Even with spring lines that boat
was the most difficult boat I've ever had to dock,
because of the full keel, and horrible rudder.

This week I had a chance to sail a gorgeous wooden
Hinckley. This couple clearly learned that Hinckley
yachts were classy boats. The size was right, and
perhaps the price also-it is a wooden boat. But
it was also an older boat and older boats need
skilled maintenance. Any boat this size needs
a confident and skilled skipper.

The boat had two nice Lewmar self-tailers, and
roller furling for the genoa. I didn't pull out the
other sails because the fresh varnish has glued
the aft lazarette closed. Many of the cleats were
updated to gorgeous stainless steel Herreshoft cleats.
That was about it for updating in the area of deck
hardware.

The boat looked great. Nice varnish, solid hull,
good sails, and perfect decks. But beauty is only
skin deep.

There was no reefing gear except for reef points. No
turning blocks, no pad-eyes to attach reef lines. No
tack hook or any other means of securing the tack
when reefed. Just a few dangling reef points that
were meant only to keep the sail from falling down
--not for taking a load!

The traveler was two slides with an awkward pin which
needed to be dropped to the low side the let the main
out all the way--the main sheet was too short.

Gybing was a breeze because there was so much
friction in the blocks, the main could not come over
hard. Also, the short main sheet meant it was impossible
to slam the boom into the shrouds.

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

The tiller looked like it came off of a 15' day-sailor. I found
a replacement tiller in the lazarette. Clearly, the prior
owner planned to replace the temporary one that was
installed with the better used one but never got around to it.

The engine wasn't running too well. When a diesel
stalls--it's bad news. The engine surged and ran poorly
at lower throttle settings. It stalled several times. It
was not charging the batteries. I was unable to tighten
the alternator belt without a long screw driver for a lever.
The batteries read between 12.0 and 12.4 Volts. I think
they are damaged.

While it was a fine boat, it was not the best boat for
beginners without any mechanical or electrical skills.

I did my best to explain what was needed to update
the boat and got "lost and confused" looks. I showed
them how to sail off the mooring and how to sail back
but they seemed afraid to sail the boat even though
it actually handled quite well under sail.

I tried to explain that the boat could be changed and
they could chose how to change it for the better. I don't
think I got through. I hope and pray that this will be
a wonderful learning experience for them, not a
string of disasters.

Bart

Maybe they'll learn fast through attrition? Cahnteuse was previously
owned by an older couple who uswed her as a cottage once they found she
was "Skittish and tippy"....they were afraid to sail her because she
heeld over "so hard" (we've never had her more than 30, even in beamy
seas with a lot of wind)...of course, they did not know how to use the
in-boom furling system and had no reef ties...they had never refefed
her! If the winds are over 15, we don't even leave the dovk without
reeding first...what I never understand is why beginner's buy a big boat
first instead of going up the ladder in an organized fashion, learning
along the way...I know that that takes time and energy, buying and
selling boats, but they could lease with another couple or
something...buying "the" boat first just creates unnecesarry angst and
often destroys the desire...

Seahag August 11th 07 03:01 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten
all those puppies up they will push the mast into the keel
and start some impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Seahag




roger[_2_] August 11th 07 10:11 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Aug 11, 2:48 am, Bart wrote:
A couple of times I've seen people that were smart
enough to do their research on paper, and buy a
quality boat that was too much for them, and then
realized they were over their heads and seek
professional help when that sense of panic sets in.

Have you seen or felt that "What have I done to myself
now!" feeling. These people suddenly realized that
their skills are not up to the task. I hope they realize
there is a very real danger of death or disaster.

Years ago it was a couple intending to sail around
the world on a older Full Keel Pacific Seacraft, only
to find they were terrified to dock the boat--even
after taking lessons. Even with spring lines that boat
was the most difficult boat I've ever had to dock,
because of the full keel, and horrible rudder.

This week I had a chance to sail a gorgeous wooden
Hinckley. This couple clearly learned that Hinckley
yachts were classy boats. The size was right, and
perhaps the price also-it is a wooden boat. But
it was also an older boat and older boats need
skilled maintenance. Any boat this size needs
a confident and skilled skipper.

The boat had two nice Lewmar self-tailers, and
roller furling for the genoa. I didn't pull out the
other sails because the fresh varnish has glued
the aft lazarette closed. Many of the cleats were
updated to gorgeous stainless steel Herreshoft cleats.
That was about it for updating in the area of deck
hardware.

The boat looked great. Nice varnish, solid hull,
good sails, and perfect decks. But beauty is only
skin deep.

There was no reefing gear except for reef points. No
turning blocks, no pad-eyes to attach reef lines. No
tack hook or any other means of securing the tack
when reefed. Just a few dangling reef points that
were meant only to keep the sail from falling down
--not for taking a load!

The traveler was two slides with an awkward pin which
needed to be dropped to the low side the let the main
out all the way--the main sheet was too short.

Gybing was a breeze because there was so much
friction in the blocks, the main could not come over
hard. Also, the short main sheet meant it was impossible
to slam the boom into the shrouds.

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

The tiller looked like it came off of a 15' day-sailor. I found
a replacement tiller in the lazarette. Clearly, the prior
owner planned to replace the temporary one that was
installed with the better used one but never got around to it.

The engine wasn't running too well. When a diesel
stalls--it's bad news. The engine surged and ran poorly
at lower throttle settings. It stalled several times. It
was not charging the batteries. I was unable to tighten
the alternator belt without a long screw driver for a lever.
The batteries read between 12.0 and 12.4 Volts. I think
they are damaged.

While it was a fine boat, it was not the best boat for
beginners without any mechanical or electrical skills.

I did my best to explain what was needed to update
the boat and got "lost and confused" looks. I showed
them how to sail off the mooring and how to sail back
but they seemed afraid to sail the boat even though
it actually handled quite well under sail.

I tried to explain that the boat could be changed and
they could chose how to change it for the better. I don't
think I got through. I hope and pray that this will be
a wonderful learning experience for them, not a
string of disasters.

Bart


This seems to be happening alot more these days as baby boomers with
alot of disposable income sink it into a big boat. Their first boat.
It used to be that you bought what you could afford which meant a
smaller boat and as your income increased over the years, so did the
size of your boat, but so did your experience level.

There are alot of first time boat owners in 45 -50 footers in my
marina. It scares me sometimes but they have the right.


Flying Tadpole August 12th 07 07:55 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Seahag wrote:
"Bart" wrote:
Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten
all those puppies up they will push the mast into the keel
and start some impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Seahag




Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???

--

Flying Tadpole
----------------------------------
http://www.myspace.com/timfatchen

Seahag August 12th 07 01:58 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:
Seahag wrote:
"Bart" wrote:
Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???


Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be
very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on,
such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)

Seahag



katy August 12th 07 03:02 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be
very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on,
such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)

Seahag


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their lonesome.....

Captain Crunch August 12th 07 03:05 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten all those
puppies up they will push the mast into the keel and start some
impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be very handy for
hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on, such as belaying pins and
ratlines. Can be made more interesting with the application of
baggywinkle:)

Seahag


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their lonesome.....



Ya think? R U losing Ur mind as well as Ur eyesight? U have no sense of
humour. Haggie duz.



Scotty August 12th 07 04:46 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast

into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can

be
very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs

on,
such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)

Seahag


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on

their lonesome.....

at least he has sticks... :o



Horvath August 12th 07 05:49 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:05:46 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:

Ya think? R U losing Ur mind as well as Ur eyesight? U have no sense of
humour. Haggie duz.



This isn't text messaging, stupid dumbass! We use proper "grammer."




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

katy August 12th 07 06:28 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Bart" wrote:


Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast


into

the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can


be

very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs


on,

such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)

Seahag



His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on


their lonesome.....

at least he has sticks... :o


....that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat until they step
their sticks...makes for interesting conversation when you go anywhere
with her...

katy August 12th 07 06:29 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:05:46 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:


Ya think? R U losing Ur mind as well as Ur eyesight? U have no sense of
humour. Haggie duz.




This isn't text messaging, stupid dumbass! We use proper "grammer."




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.


He thinks he's Rosie O'Donnell....

Horvath August 12th 07 07:11 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:29:27 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:05:46 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:


Ya think? R U losing Ur mind as well as Ur eyesight? U have no sense of
humour. Haggie duz.




This isn't text messaging, stupid dumbass! We use proper "grammer."


He thinks he's Rosie O'Donnell....



"He?" I thought "he" was a girl. That's how my little sister sends
me messages.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Captain Crunch August 12th 07 08:48 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:05:46 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:

Ya think? R U losing Ur mind as well as Ur eyesight? U have no sense of
humour. Haggie duz.



This isn't text messaging, stupid dumbass! We use proper "grammer."




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.



I was responding to katy-type. Seems that she understands that kind of
typing.



Horvath August 12th 07 11:01 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:48:25 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:

"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:05:46 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:

Ya think? R U losing Ur mind as well as Ur eyesight? U have no sense of
humour. Haggie duz.



This isn't text messaging, stupid dumbass! We use proper "grammer."


I was responding to katy-type. Seems that she understands that kind of
typing.



And you know she likes it, because?





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Maxprop August 13th 07 12:47 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Seahag" wrote in message
news:Uijvi.469$vC4.313@trndny01...

"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten all those
puppies up they will push the mast into the keel and start some impressive
leaking. Been there done that...


You bet. I've seen chainplate bolts in elongated holes, thanks to way
overtightening the rig in a wooden boat.

Max



Maxprop August 13th 07 12:50 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten all those
puppies up they will push the mast into the keel and start some
impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be very handy for
hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on, such as belaying pins and
ratlines. Can be made more interesting with the application of
baggywinkle:)

Seahag


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their lonesome.....


A Freedom?

Max




katy August 13th 07 01:13 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Bart" wrote:


Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten all those
puppies up they will push the mast into the keel and start some
impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be very handy for
hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on, such as belaying pins and
ratlines. Can be made more interesting with the application of
baggywinkle:)

Seahag



His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their lonesome.....



A Freedom?

Max



Bolger Box ....
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/lkcruise.htm

Wilbur Hubbard August 13th 07 02:05 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:48:25 -0400, "Captain Crunch"
wrote this crap:

This isn't text messaging, stupid dumbass! We use proper "grammer."


I was responding to katy-type. Seems that she understands that kind
of
typing.



And you know she likes it, because?



You're new here so you'll not be familiar with the fact that Katy
probably has hit on every male in this group. It's her hobby. Funny
thing about her. She's knock-kneed but they haven't touch in probably 40
years.

Wilbur Hubbard


Seahag August 13th 07 02:17 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"katy" wrote:
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Bart" wrote:


Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast
into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been
there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???


Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can
be
very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs
on, such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made
more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on

their lonesome.....

at least he has sticks... :o


...that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat
until they step their sticks...makes for interesting
conversation when you go anywhere with her...


Just to round things off the engine is still sitting on the
sole of my saloon:(

Seahag



katy August 13th 07 03:38 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Flying Tadpole" wrote:



Seahag wrote:



"Bart" wrote:



Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast
into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been
there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???


Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can
be
very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs
on, such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made
more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on

their lonesome.....

at least he has sticks... :o



...that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat
until they step their sticks...makes for interesting
conversation when you go anywhere with her...



Just to round things off the engine is still sitting on the
sole of my saloon:(

Seahag


You can admire it there better than in a dingy old engine room....

Maxprop August 13th 07 05:24 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Bart" wrote:


Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten all those
puppies up they will push the mast into the keel and start some
impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be very handy
for
hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on, such as belaying pins and
ratlines. Can be made more interesting with the application of
baggywinkle:)

Seahag



His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their
lonesome.....



A Freedom?

Max



Bolger Box ....
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/lkcruise.htm


So where does one hang their baggywrinkle on such vessels?

Max



Bart August 13th 07 07:22 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

what I never understand is why beginner's buy a big boat
first instead of going up the ladder in an organized fashion, learning
along the way...I know that that takes time and energy, buying and
selling boats, but they could lease with another couple or
something...buying "the" boat first just creates unnecesarry angst and
often destroys the desire...


katy,

I agree completely. Anyone with your sort of experience
knows "how to do it". But many people unfortunately,
don't know "how to do it" and end up with more boat than
they can handle. The outcome is either hilarious or tragic.




Bart August 13th 07 07:23 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Aug 11, 10:01 am, "Seahag" wrote:
"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten
all those puppies up they will push the mast into the keel
and start some impressive leaking. Been there done that...

Seahag



Haggie, these were very loose. How would you recommend
they be adjusted? I'd welcome your opinion.



Bart August 13th 07 07:25 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Aug 12, 10:02 am, katy wrote:
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Bart" wrote:


Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???


Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be


Seahag


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their lonesome.....


He must have one of those newfangled carbon fiber fishing rods
that whip all around.


katy August 13th 07 07:32 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Seahag wrote:


"Flying Tadpole" wrote:



Seahag wrote:



"Bart" wrote:



Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...

Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you tighten all those
puppies up they will push the mast into the keel and start some
impressive leaking. Been there done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???



Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be very handy
for
hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on, such as belaying pins and
ratlines. Can be made more interesting with the application of
baggywinkle:)

Seahag



His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their
lonesome.....


A Freedom?

Max




Bolger Box ....
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/lkcruise.htm



So where does one hang their baggywrinkle on such vessels?

Max


Off the brim of your hat....

katy August 13th 07 07:34 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Bart wrote:
On Aug 12, 10:02 am, katy wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


"Bart" wrote:


Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...


Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???


Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be


Seahag


His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on their lonesome.....



He must have one of those newfangled carbon fiber fishing rods
that whip all around.


Wood....

Flying Tadpole August 13th 07 08:35 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:
Seahag wrote:
"Bart" wrote:
Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...
Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten all those puppies up they will push the mast into
the keel and start some impressive leaking. Been there
done that...

Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???


Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can be
very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs on,
such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)

Seahag


Oh...the things the other yachties use as clotheslines?


--

Flying Tadpole
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Scotty August 13th 07 09:28 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on


their lonesome.....

at least he has sticks... :o


...that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat


to cushion her head when she passes out?






Scotty August 13th 07 09:32 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...

He must have one of those newfangled


yeah, newfangled for the year1426.




Seahag August 13th 07 02:06 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"katy" wrote:
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Scotty wrote:

at least he has sticks... :o

...that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat
until they step their sticks...makes for interesting
conversation when you go anywhere with her...


Just to round things off the engine is still sitting on
the sole of my saloon:(


You can admire it there better than in a dingy old engine
room....


I found my collection of nail polish and I'm painting all
the bolts and fuel lines different colors.

Seahag



Seahag August 13th 07 02:13 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Bart" wrote:
"Seahag" wrote:
"Bart" wrote:

Every one of the shrouds was loose--I was tempted to
pluck them to see if I could hit a few bass notes but
they would probably be below human hearing...


Wooden boats aren't tuned like glass boats. If you
tighten
all those puppies up they will push the mast into the
keel
and start some impressive leaking. Been there done
that...


Haggie, these were very loose. How would you recommend
they be adjusted? I'd welcome your opinion.


Very loose is fine as long as the sticks are straight. Of
course it depends on your deffinition of "very":) Mind you,
I wouldn't take an old wooden boat out in extreme weather.

Seahag



Seahag August 13th 07 02:16 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in
message ...
Seahag wrote:
"Flying Tadpole" wrote:
Shrouds? Shrouds?? What are they???

Strings that go up along the sides of a boat. They can
be very handy for hanging doodads and other thingamabobs
on, such as belaying pins and ratlines. Can be made more
interesting with the application of baggywinkle:)

Oh...the things the other yachties use as clotheslines?


And spider catchers.

Seahag



Seahag August 13th 07 02:18 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Scotty" wrote:

"katy" wrote:
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote:

His boat hasn't any...the sticks just sit there all on
their lonesome.....

at least he has sticks... :o

...that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat

to cushion her head when she passes out?


Nah, it's to hide the gold braid on my Greek fisherman's
cap.

Seahag



katy August 13th 07 04:05 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"katy" wrote:


Scotty wrote:

at least he has sticks... :o


...that's ok...she attached the baggywinkle to her hat
until they step their sticks...makes for interesting
conversation when you go anywhere with her...

Just to round things off the engine is still sitting on
the sole of my saloon:(



You can admire it there better than in a dingy old engine
room....



I found my collection of nail polish and I'm painting all
the bolts and fuel lines different colors.

Seahag


That flourescent green will really stand out well....

Horvath August 13th 07 11:50 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:05:14 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote this crap:

You're new here



Huh? I've been here for years.


so you'll not be familiar with the fact that Katy
probably has hit on every male in this group. It's her hobby. Funny
thing about her. She's knock-kneed but they haven't touch in probably 40
years.



It won't work with me. I have a beautiful fiancee.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Wilbur Hubbard August 14th 07 09:30 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
It won't work with me. I have a beautiful fiancee.


Yah right! Prove it. Post a link to a pic.

Wilbur Hubbard


Horvath August 14th 07 11:29 PM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:30:59 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote this crap:


"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
It won't work with me. I have a beautiful fiancee.


Yah right! Prove it. Post a link to a pic.


I already did, once. If your addy was real, I'd e-mail a pic to you.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Joe August 15th 07 12:43 AM

...and the panic sets in?
 
On Aug 14, 5:29 pm, Horvath wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:30:59 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote this crap:



"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
It won't work with me. I have a beautiful fiancee.


Yah right! Prove it. Post a link to a pic.


I already did, once. If your addy was real, I'd e-mail a pic to you.


No you did not..You just posted pictures of some strippers..

Joe



I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.




Wilbur Hubbard August 15th 07 01:12 AM

...and the panic sets in? (Erin)
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 14, 5:29 pm, Horvath wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:30:59 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote this crap:



"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
It won't work with me. I have a beautiful fiancee.


Yah right! Prove it. Post a link to a pic.


I already did, once. If your addy was real, I'd e-mail a pic to you.


No you did not..You just posted pictures of some strippers..

Joe



Get ready for tropical storm Erin, Joe. It's now TD5 and headed right
for you . Expected to be a TS at landfall. A big rain maker - just what
Texas needs to end that drought. Ha ha ha!

Wilbur Hubbard



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