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Joe August 4th 07 12:34 PM

Two head sails
 
On Aug 3, 11:00 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


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What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without
someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft
forsail stay?


Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays.


Joe


Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd.
They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at
pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails.


The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails.
Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just
kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz
but I thought you were a sailor...


1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze
through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail.


2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the
topsail along.


3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a
systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the
topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at
this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is
released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as
not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the
foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone
spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail
hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe.


I hope this helps.


Wilbur Hubbard


Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in
the gear locker for a long time.


Joe


Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably
hasn't sailed in years.


What's wrong with his advice?

Joe
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Captain Cool[_3_] August 4th 07 12:48 PM

Two head sails
 
"Joe" wrote in message
s.com...
On Aug 3, 11:00 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


roups.com...


What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without
someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft
forsail stay?


Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays.


Joe


Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd.
They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at
pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails.


The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up
sails.
Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It
just
kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and
Ganz
but I thought you were a sailor...


1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze
through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail.


2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the
topsail along.


3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a
systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the
topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed
at
this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is
released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so
as
not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the
foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone
spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the
staysail
hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe.


I hope this helps.


Wilbur Hubbard


Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in
the gear locker for a long time.


Joe


Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably
hasn't sailed in years.


What's wrong with his advice?


You know that his gayness hates any advise from anyone other than himself.
Especially if it's correct.
Gaynze likes gay advise, not real advise.

Joe
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Capt. JG August 4th 07 02:46 PM

Two head sails
 
"Joe" wrote in message
s.com...
On Aug 3, 11:00 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


roups.com...


What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without
someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft
forsail stay?


Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays.


Joe


Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd.
They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at
pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails.


The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up
sails.
Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It
just
kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and
Ganz
but I thought you were a sailor...


1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze
through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail.


2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the
topsail along.


3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a
systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the
topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed
at
this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is
released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so
as
not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the
foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone
spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the
staysail
hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe.


I hope this helps.


Wilbur Hubbard


Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in
the gear locker for a long time.


Joe


Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably
hasn't sailed in years.


What's wrong with his advice?

Joe
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It's up to you.


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JR August 4th 07 03:36 PM

Two head sails
 
Joe, there is nothing wrong with Wilbur's (Neil's) advice.
I do the same thing when flying a cruising Spin off a short sprit
on Matilda. Just make sure there are no burrs on your hanks nor hairs on
your stays.
I'm sure my cruising spin is much more "snagable" than your
foresails, and I haven't hooked it yet in 6 years of running it that way.
BTW, I don't use a tacking line, I just let the wind push
the spin thru the slot in a controlled fashion. Even in light air the clue
follows around the stay nicely.
Your boat/sails are bigger/heavier so YMMV.

I envy you the adventure you are embarking on.
Much Good Luck

Regards,
JR
Matilda 20



Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably
hasn't sailed in years.


What's wrong with his advice?

Joe
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Joe August 5th 07 12:57 AM

Two head sails
 
On Aug 4, 9:36 am, "JR" wrote:


I envy you the adventure you are embarking on.
Much Good Luck


Yeah... two heads sails is quite adventurious.

Thanks
Joe


Regards,
JR
Matilda 20





Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably
hasn't sailed in years.


What's wrong with his advice?


Joe
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Jonathan Ganz August 5th 07 05:33 AM

Two head sails
 
In article , JR wrote:
Joe, there is nothing wrong with Wilbur's (Neil's) advice.
I do the same thing when flying a cruising Spin off a short sprit
on Matilda. Just make sure there are no burrs on your hanks nor hairs on
your stays.
I'm sure my cruising spin is much more "snagable" than your
foresails, and I haven't hooked it yet in 6 years of running it that way.
BTW, I don't use a tacking line, I just let the wind push
the spin thru the slot in a controlled fashion. Even in light air the clue
follows around the stay nicely.
Your boat/sails are bigger/heavier so YMMV.

I envy you the adventure you are embarking on.
Much Good Luck

Regards,
JR
Matilda 20


There's just something wrong with Neal.


JR August 5th 07 09:52 AM

Two head sails
 
Joe, I was referring to your coffee transporting/processing
enterprise. Or is that not happening?
Regards,
JR

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 4, 9:36 am, "JR" wrote:


I envy you the adventure you are embarking on.
Much Good Luck


Yeah... two heads sails is quite adventurious.

Thanks
Joe


Regards,
JR
Matilda 20





Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal
probably
hasn't sailed in years.


What's wrong with his advice?


Joe
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JR August 5th 07 09:54 AM

Two head sails
 
LMAO, I do have to give you that, Jon.
Regards,
JR

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article , JR
wrote:
Joe, there is nothing wrong with Wilbur's (Neil's) advice.
I do the same thing when flying a cruising Spin off a short sprit
on Matilda. Just make sure there are no burrs on your hanks nor hairs on
your stays.
I'm sure my cruising spin is much more "snagable" than your
foresails, and I haven't hooked it yet in 6 years of running it that way.
BTW, I don't use a tacking line, I just let the wind push
the spin thru the slot in a controlled fashion. Even in light air the clue
follows around the stay nicely.
Your boat/sails are bigger/heavier so YMMV.

I envy you the adventure you are embarking on.
Much Good Luck

Regards,
JR
Matilda 20


There's just something wrong with Neal.




Joe August 5th 07 03:39 PM

Two head sails
 
On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote:
Joe, I was referring to your -


Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes.

Joe


JR August 5th 07 07:40 PM

Two head sails
 
Oh, Sowwy.
JR

"Joe" wrote in message
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On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote:
Joe, I was referring to your -


Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes.

Joe





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