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What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without
someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe |
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Joe wrote:
What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... |
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On Aug 3, 12:34 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote: What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... I'd rather feed it around by hand then risk roll up failure at sea, no jib boom...yet. Guess I could use block and tackle from the bow to the fore foresail clew in the same way. Joe |
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Joe wrote:
On Aug 3, 12:34 pm, katy wrote: Joe wrote: What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... I'd rather feed it around by hand then risk roll up failure at sea, no jib boom...yet. Guess I could use block and tackle from the bow to the fore foresail clew in the same way. Joe If you're having roll up failures maybe you need to get your furler rig upgraded....without a furler it sounds like a mess...BTW...are you having that dead sea preoblem where you're at because of all the unusual heavy rains in Texas flooding the Gulf and keeping the oxygen levels low? They had a blurb on the tube the other night (May have been CNN) where an ocenaographer was talking about the shrimp industry possibly suffering, along with some of the commercial fishers.... |
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On Aug 3, 12:55 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote: On Aug 3, 12:34 pm, katy wrote: Joe wrote: What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... I'd rather feed it around by hand then risk roll up failure at sea, no jib boom...yet. Guess I could use block and tackle from the bow to the fore foresail clew in the same way. Joe If you're having roll up failures maybe you need to get your furler rig upgraded....without a furler it sounds like a mess...BTW...are you having that dead sea preoblem where you're at because of all the unusual heavy rains in Texas flooding the Gulf and keeping the oxygen levels low? They had a blurb on the tube the other night (May have been CNN) where an ocenaographer was talking about the shrimp industry possibly suffering, along with some of the commercial fishers....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well the baby shrimp are being washed out of the grasslands a bit young I suspect, but I don't really know how it's affecting the shrimp season. I may have to run to Roseys and see..sounds good for dinner. We have had 18 inches of rain in the last 30 days. The local weathermen are comparing the history of heavy rain in July and are tying it to major hurricane strikes here in Texas. In 1900 they has a similar rainy July and Galveston got wiped out, same when Camellie and Alicia years. Most likely they are just grasping straws. Knock on wood. From Da news: After a rather wet July, the National Weather Service said the threat of late season hurricanes should be a concern for Southeast Texans. Meteorologist Jim Sweeney said the Golden Triangle has seen more than twice the normal amount of rainfall for this time of year and is caused by a weaker high pressure ridge in the Atlantic. "What it does is swing like a conveyor belt all the moisture right into Texas," he said. "The upper level low pressure is a like magnet on moisture." Sweeney said the NWS always tells people to have their emergency preparedness kits ready because it is never too early to prepare. "Review your tropical preparedness information, check to see if you have enough batteries, cash on hand, drinking water and at least a half a tank of gas," he said. Sweeney said recent high level easterly winds concern him, but any tropical development at this time would cause more trouble for the Windward Islands of the Lesser Antilles than the Gulf of Mexico. "The trajectory would take it (tropical formations) to the Yucatan if anything develops," Sweeney said. "But ultimately, something could develop if the water temperature increases like it does in the later summer months." The NWS meteorologist said to minimize tropical activity, he would like to see westerly winds in the tropics to keep any formations from developing. However, the rain Southeast Texans have seen during the week will continue due to favorable upper level dynamics. "Beyond Friday, the forecast calls for less rainfall, but everyone should keep an eye on the weather at least a week in advance," Sweeney advised. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Slowly, with just enough to finish the tack. If you ease the lines as the jibs are luffing, then you should be able to pull the forward of the two sails through the space between the two forestays, especially with a 100% jib (or smaller). The jib sheets are going to be an issue, so you'll need more than one person doing it. As long as you don't have a lot of tension on the jib, you shouldn't have significant abrasion on the sails. If I could, I'd furl the jib in front, as Katy suggested, tack, then unfurl it. I can't imagine having that much sail up in heavy air, so unless there's something wrong with the furler, it shouldn't be an issue. Of course, there's always the possibility of failure, but there's a lot less chance with careful observation/maintenance. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Excuse me, I was in a hurry and just noticed I made a boo-boo. The last paragraph should have read: 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the topsail. If the sail is recalcitrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. WH |
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On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 3, 11:00 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. What's wrong with his advice? Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Joe" wrote in message
s.com... On Aug 3, 11:00 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. What's wrong with his advice? You know that his gayness hates any advise from anyone other than himself. Especially if it's correct. Gaynze likes gay advise, not real advise. Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Joe" wrote in message
s.com... On Aug 3, 11:00 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. What's wrong with his advice? Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's up to you. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Joe, there is nothing wrong with Wilbur's (Neil's) advice.
I do the same thing when flying a cruising Spin off a short sprit on Matilda. Just make sure there are no burrs on your hanks nor hairs on your stays. I'm sure my cruising spin is much more "snagable" than your foresails, and I haven't hooked it yet in 6 years of running it that way. BTW, I don't use a tacking line, I just let the wind push the spin thru the slot in a controlled fashion. Even in light air the clue follows around the stay nicely. Your boat/sails are bigger/heavier so YMMV. I envy you the adventure you are embarking on. Much Good Luck Regards, JR Matilda 20 Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. What's wrong with his advice? Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Aug 4, 9:36 am, "JR" wrote:
I envy you the adventure you are embarking on. Much Good Luck Yeah... two heads sails is quite adventurious. Thanks Joe Regards, JR Matilda 20 Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. What's wrong with his advice? Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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In article , JR wrote:
Joe, there is nothing wrong with Wilbur's (Neil's) advice. I do the same thing when flying a cruising Spin off a short sprit on Matilda. Just make sure there are no burrs on your hanks nor hairs on your stays. I'm sure my cruising spin is much more "snagable" than your foresails, and I haven't hooked it yet in 6 years of running it that way. BTW, I don't use a tacking line, I just let the wind push the spin thru the slot in a controlled fashion. Even in light air the clue follows around the stay nicely. Your boat/sails are bigger/heavier so YMMV. I envy you the adventure you are embarking on. Much Good Luck Regards, JR Matilda 20 There's just something wrong with Neal. |
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Joe, I was referring to your coffee transporting/processing
enterprise. Or is that not happening? Regards, JR "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 4, 9:36 am, "JR" wrote: I envy you the adventure you are embarking on. Much Good Luck Yeah... two heads sails is quite adventurious. Thanks Joe Regards, JR Matilda 20 Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. What's wrong with his advice? Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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LMAO, I do have to give you that, Jon.
Regards, JR "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , JR wrote: Joe, there is nothing wrong with Wilbur's (Neil's) advice. I do the same thing when flying a cruising Spin off a short sprit on Matilda. Just make sure there are no burrs on your hanks nor hairs on your stays. I'm sure my cruising spin is much more "snagable" than your foresails, and I haven't hooked it yet in 6 years of running it that way. BTW, I don't use a tacking line, I just let the wind push the spin thru the slot in a controlled fashion. Even in light air the clue follows around the stay nicely. Your boat/sails are bigger/heavier so YMMV. I envy you the adventure you are embarking on. Much Good Luck Regards, JR Matilda 20 There's just something wrong with Neal. |
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On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote:
Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe |
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Oh, Sowwy.
JR "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe |
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On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote:
Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe |
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Great job on the ports Joe, she looks more like a "classic sea boat" than
with the larger "window" type ports. Regards, JR "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe |
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Joe wrote:
On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe Nice, Joe...looking good.... |
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On Aug 6, 9:48 am, "JR" wrote:
Great job on the ports Joe, she looks more like a "classic sea boat" than with the larger "window" type ports. Regards, JR Thanks..I agree. Plus it provides more space on the cabin for sponser logos..;0). Joe "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Joe wrote:
On Aug 6, 9:48 am, "JR" wrote: Great job on the ports Joe, she looks more like a "classic sea boat" than with the larger "window" type ports. Regards, JR Thanks..I agree. Plus it provides more space on the cabin for sponser logos..;0). Joe "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message egroups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yech....use your sails for that...that way you get to write them off...is the building yours, too? Besides importing the coffee are you going to open a coffehouse right there? |
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On Aug 6, 10:42 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote: On Aug 6, 9:48 am, "JR" wrote: Great job on the ports Joe, she looks more like a "classic sea boat" than with the larger "window" type ports. Regards, JR Thanks..I agree. Plus it provides more space on the cabin for sponser logos..;0). Joe "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message egroups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yech....use your sails for that...that way you get to write them off...is the building yours, too? No it's a rental, but I'm the rentee..So yes and no. In this location the owner would want several million for it. Besides importing the coffee are you going to open a coffehouse right there? No. Everyone has done the coffee house to death.. We have one just across the street, down on the corner..everywhere..Our goal is to be a model for sustainability and profit using 100% renewable energy. Our Coffee and Spices will be the cleanest and GREENEST products in today's Green, Organic concise and aware world. Our Mission To deliver high quality, high demand, organic products shipped in a manner that fosters Brand loyalty from our customers, and promotes environmental awareness and preservation. We will help save the planet, one cup of coffee at a time. We will be a model of sustainability and profit using 100% renewable energy for others to follow. Due to the rising cost of fuel, and the growing demand for products that are organically produced and imported in a way that has as little negative impact to the environment as possible, we all can see that there is a high demand for high quality GREEN products. We will help meet that demand. We will be providing product to the coffee houses and home roasters either green, or roasted. 99% of our sales will be via the internet. We do plan on having large get togethers called "cuppings" and other promotions at the facility. We do not want a 9-5 job where we have to tend shop. I have another career that I'm not quitting (deep Fryer Mgr). As I've told JR we are not offically doing anything yet. We have another major hurdle to jump before we can shove off. Joe - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Joe wrote:
On Aug 6, 10:42 am, katy wrote: Joe wrote: On Aug 6, 9:48 am, "JR" wrote: Great job on the ports Joe, she looks more like a "classic sea boat" than with the larger "window" type ports. Regards, JR Thanks..I agree. Plus it provides more space on the cabin for sponser logos..;0). Joe "Joe" wrote in message legroups.com... On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message glegroups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yech....use your sails for that...that way you get to write them off...is the building yours, too? No it's a rental, but I'm the rentee..So yes and no. In this location the owner would want several million for it. Besides importing the coffee are you going to open a coffehouse right there? No. Everyone has done the coffee house to death.. We have one just across the street, down on the corner..everywhere..Our goal is to be a model for sustainability and profit using 100% renewable energy. Our Coffee and Spices will be the cleanest and GREENEST products in today's Green, Organic concise and aware world. Our Mission To deliver high quality, high demand, organic products shipped in a manner that fosters Brand loyalty from our customers, and promotes environmental awareness and preservation. We will help save the planet, one cup of coffee at a time. We will be a model of sustainability and profit using 100% renewable energy for others to follow. Due to the rising cost of fuel, and the growing demand for products that are organically produced and imported in a way that has as little negative impact to the environment as possible, we all can see that there is a high demand for high quality GREEN products. We will help meet that demand. We will be providing product to the coffee houses and home roasters either green, or roasted. 99% of our sales will be via the internet. We do plan on having large get togethers called "cuppings" and other promotions at the facility. We do not want a 9-5 job where we have to tend shop. I have another career that I'm not quitting (deep Fryer Mgr). As I've told JR we are not offically doing anything yet. We have another major hurdle to jump before we can shove off. Joe - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just hpw much coffee can your boat carry back from Panama, Nicaraugua or wherever? And how you going to deal with drug lords wanting their share? And how are you going to guarantee that anything grown in Central or South America is green (unless you're thinking Belize?) |
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On Aug 6, 12:53 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote: On Aug 6, 10:42 am, katy wrote: Joe wrote: On Aug 6, 9:48 am, "JR" wrote: Great job on the ports Joe, she looks more like a "classic sea boat" than with the larger "window" type ports. Regards, JR Thanks..I agree. Plus it provides more space on the cabin for sponser logos..;0). Joe "Joe" wrote in message legroups.com... On Aug 5, 1:40 pm, "JR" wrote: Oh, Sowwy. JR "Joe" wrote in message glegroups.com... On Aug 5, 3:52 am, "JR" wrote: Joe, I was referring to your - Dammit JR...It's still hush hush..Yes. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem... Here is the latest picture of the ElLago Coffee company and ship. http://sports.webshots.com/photo/259...63212926uIlspd Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yech....use your sails for that...that way you get to write them off...is the building yours, too? No it's a rental, but I'm the rentee..So yes and no. In this location the owner would want several million for it. Besides importing the coffee are you going to open a coffehouse right there? No. Everyone has done the coffee house to death.. We have one just across the street, down on the corner..everywhere..Our goal is to be a model for sustainability and profit using 100% renewable energy. Our Coffee and Spices will be the cleanest and GREENEST products in today's Green, Organic concise and aware world. Our Mission To deliver high quality, high demand, organic products shipped in a manner that fosters Brand loyalty from our customers, and promotes environmental awareness and preservation. We will help save the planet, one cup of coffee at a time. We will be a model of sustainability and profit using 100% renewable energy for others to follow. Due to the rising cost of fuel, and the growing demand for products that are organically produced and imported in a way that has as little negative impact to the environment as possible, we all can see that there is a high demand for high quality GREEN products. We will help meet that demand. We will be providing product to the coffee houses and home roasters either green, or roasted. 99% of our sales will be via the internet. We do plan on having large get togethers called "cuppings" and other promotions at the facility. We do not want a 9-5 job where we have to tend shop. I have another career that I'm not quitting (deep Fryer Mgr). As I've told JR we are not offically doing anything yet. We have another major hurdle to jump before we can shove off. Joe - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just hpw much coffee can your boat carry back from Panama, Nicaraugua or wherever? As configured 10,000 lbs. Modified 40,000 lbs... or a container load. And how you going to deal with drug lords wanting their share? Going to rely on the host countrys Coast guard and the USCG, because the orgin country has strict anti gun laws. You even have a bullit aboard... you go to jail. I'm not stepping on any durg lords turf, or dealing with products they would have any interest in. We plan on loading at a very heavily guarded customs dock and will be operating in a very heavy shipping lanes that are monitered and protected by the USCG. And how are you going to guarantee that anything grown in Central or South America is green (unless you're thinking Belize?) There are many organizations that certify organic. When I say green beans I'm reffering to un-roasted coffee beans. Most coffee in developing nations is organic, as they can not afford fertilizers. I'm dealing with a broker who's company has been in business for over 100 years and feel they have some credibility. Joe - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"katy" wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Just hpw much coffee can your boat carry back from Panama, Nicaraugua or wherever? And how you going to deal with drug lords wanting their share? And how are you going to guarantee that anything grown in Central or South America is green (unless you're thinking Belize?) Joe's going to meet a 'real coffee ship' 50 miles out, transfer 10,000 lbs of Folgers to his boat where they'll transfer the beans into his own 'green' labeled bags. Scotty |
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Nice house Joe, too bad somebody parked that ugly derelict
in front of it. Have you tried calling the CG? Scotty |
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"Scotty" wrote in message ... Nice house Joe, too bad somebody parked that ugly derelict in front of it. Have you tried calling the CG? Scotty How come I didn't see the Siedlemann parked there? Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Aug 10, 7:45 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Just hpw much coffee can your boat carry back from Panama, Nicaraugua or wherever? And how you going to deal with drug lords wanting their share? And how are you going to guarantee that anything grown in Central or South America is green (unless you're thinking Belize?) Joe's going to meet a 'real coffee ship' 50 miles out, transfer 10,000 lbs of Folgers to his boat where they'll transfer the beans into his own 'green' labeled bags. Scotty One of the last "Real Coffee Ships" http://www.thingstodoincornwall.co.u...ea-clipper.jpg Joe |
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On Aug 10, 7:46 am, "Scotty" wrote:
Nice house Joe, too bad somebody parked that ugly derelict in front of it. Have you tried calling the CG? Scotty The coasties came by a couple of days ago and checked her out, boat envy. They have no since of humor ..I asked if I could board them and they said sure, but I went straight to the machine gun on the bow and they had a problem with that. I just wanted to aim it at some jet skiers...not shoot em or anything like that. Joe |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com. ... "Scotty" wrote in message ... Nice house Joe, too bad somebody parked that ugly derelict in front of it. Have you tried calling the CG? Scotty How come I didn't see the Siedlemann parked there? Because you're blind, from too much ''exercise''? |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com. .. "Scotty" wrote in message ... Nice house Joe, too bad somebody parked that ugly derelict in front of it. Have you tried calling the CG? Scotty How come I didn't see the Siedlemann parked there? Because you're blind, from too much ''exercise''? Hmmmmm, not me. But that could be what caused Katy's failing eyesight??? Wilbur Hubbard |
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