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Well, I see the regular assemblage of goof balls who never sail posted all day and with the so-called departure of Crantz a sudden smattering of new sock puppets! Yippee! Jeff continues to hang his defense on the fact that he takes trips on his boat while we only go out to enjoy the actual sailing. He's exactly right. A PDQ 36 is fast and secure and duller than a wooden spoon to sail. So today we had a really fun sail on a Santana 30/30. A bit quicker than a Express 30 or J30, the Santana is light and a shear delight to sail. This clip shows Suzanne at the helm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpOCSIj2qn0 The little Santana was running down quite a few larger boats and it was a perfect day for a sail....even if you weren't taking a "trip" of some kind. Then again there are boats that make sailing fun, and those that are just floating motorhomes...like a PDQ 36 and most cruising cats. Next week we'll run the 30/30 against my friend's J30 and see how they compare Looks like a bit of local lake sailing tomorrow, and Heart of Gold should be back sailing mid-week. We're just waiting for the new folding prop to get here! Later, web-sailors! RB 35s5 NY |
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As of tomorrow, I'm up to 60 days sailing this year Swabbie.
What are you up to six or seven days in a bathtub? |
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* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/21/2007 11:52 PM:
Jeff continues to hang his defense on the fact that he takes trips on his boat while we only go out to enjoy the actual sailing. Defense? What am I defending against? I use my boat. You go out for an hour or so, bounce off a log or rock, and then spend the next week on the hard! I do more sailing in a week than you do in the whole summer! He's exactly right. A PDQ 36 is fast and secure and duller than a wooden spoon to sail. Sorry booby, a boat doesn't have to heel to be fun. I think doing 12 knots is a lot of fun. I think a 6 hour spinnaker run, ending with anchoring at a remote island is a lot of fun. I think spending the whole summer, or even a whole year on board is fun. If you think spending your whole sailing life within sight of your slip is fun, that's your prerogative. If you're having fun, then good for you. The rest of the sailing world races and cruises. Some of us even do both. Bragging about how fast your boat is when you don't race is the mark of a loser! Bragging about how comfortable your boat is when you don't cruise is the mark of a loser! Poor booby. His jealously weeps from every post he makes. |
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Defense? What am I defending against?
No one really knows. But everytime I point out what Cruising World said about cats and what most owners say, you feel the need to defend your choice. If I was done with sailing various boats and actually enjoying sailing maybe I'd buy a Cat or Trawler as well. I use my boat. If you say so! You go out for an hour or so, bounce off a log or rock Yup, we were bouncing on that Santana all day. When we rafted up in Little Neck bay we sure had an awful time! and then spend the next week on the hard! Since I've been on the hard I've gone sailing on 5 different boats (not counting the Rhodes). How many boats did you sail this month...or this week??!!!! Sorry booby, a boat doesn't have to heel to be fun. I bet you looked up foil dynamics by now, since you never mentioned it again. It IS a real term. Try googling it. You've never owned a true performance monohul and I doubt you sailed many. If you think 12 knots downwind is fun on your cat, you should try 10 knots on my 35s5 or even the thrill of yesterday's Santana run at near 8. But if you really want to just go 12 knots and "get there" I suggest going Doug's route! I think doing 12 knots is a lot of fun. Dull dull dull. Like doing 12 knots on a trawler. She was DESIGNED to do it and do it with little fuss. It's no more fun than doing 4 nots in a Cape Dory Typhoon. Pushing the limits of a J24 is way more fun and clearly what most true sailors prefer. I think spending the whole summer, or even a whole year on board is fun. We sure don't. I also have a love for the woods, film and astronomy and even driving. Can't say I'd want to be cooped up on a floating radiator all summer. If you think spending your whole sailing life within sight of your slip is fun, that's your prerogative. My whole life, Jeff? You keep talking as though you're my equal, Jeff. You're not. You're old and you're body is tired. I'm 44, twice as strong as any two people posting here. My years ahead are probably not fewer than those behind. I have a lifetime of sailing to come and I'll want to drop dead indeed if I end up doing as little as you. Have you done an Atlantic crossing? Sailed the Greek islands? We have a lot of plans and maybe we'll get to most of them. I guess you'll just sit around and hope we don't that's sad. The rest of the sailing world races and cruises. Really? I thought most people just enjoy their boats? What kind of person is worried so much about how far someone sails with their 35 footer, Jeff? Our longest sail to Port Jeff this summer was the least fun we had due to some light air. Maybe the ride to Mystic will be more fun since we're taking 4 boats, but a lot of people love to just SAIL, Jeff. Part of that is owning a boat that's actually fun to sail. If you "need" to get somewhere or round a bouy 1st I think you missed the whole joy of sailing...and now it's too late for you. Bragging about how fast your boat is when you don't race is the mark of a loser! That's hilarious. Who knew you need to race to appreciate the performance of a boat. Now I'm 100% sure you really don't like to sail, Jeff. You're a powerboater at best who's caved into the pressure of a sailing community which is snobbish about powerboats. Bragging about how comfortable your boat is when you don't cruise is the mark of a loser! Oh no! Now this poor toadie says I need to be comfortable for LONG trips. How dare we be comfortable for only a weekend! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Poor booby. His jealously weeps from every post he makes. I'm off to the Rhodes 19, Jeff. It's not comfortable and not too fast, but it sure is fun! You'll have all day...a beautiful sailing day....to respond while we sail. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. **** Head" wrote in message I'll drop dead indeed if I try doing as much as you. Have you done an Atlantic crossing? Sailed the Greek islands? We have a lot of plans and maybe we'll get to most of them. Like you ''had plans'' to sail the Round the Island Race, or your ''Sail to Nowhere'' ? |
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Like you ''had plans'' to sail the Round the Island Race, or
your ''Sail to Nowhere'' ? Nope. Like our plans to sail to Port Jeff on a night filled ith T- storms. Or our plans to sail to mystic and meet with our friends aboard their Pearson 39...nice time that weekend. Or our plans to sail to NJ and and the JS sailing Alien with friends on their Galaxy 32....or our plans to sail with 4 boats to Oyster Bay and last season aboard the Tayana to block island. Small trips, small plans. Most of them happen. The race hasn't because of bad schedules, but we hope to do it next season. Our trip to nowhere...just sounded dull and no one wanted to go. Oh...and Suzanne and I are doing the dive certification in September. Just got back from some really fun Rhodes 19 sailing. And Scotty posted again. Why isn't he sailing on such great days as these? Hmmmmm? RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. **** Head" wrote in message ps.com... . Small trips, small plans. small mind. Small penis. RB |
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* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/22/2007 10:33 AM:
Defense? What am I defending against? No one really knows. But everytime I point out what Cruising World said about cats and what most owners say, you feel the need to defend your choice. I didn't know CW had an editorial postion on cats. Normally they just have articles, like the one in this month's issue describing how much fun it was. If I was done with sailing various boats and actually enjoying sailing maybe I'd buy a Cat or Trawler as well. Tell us when you stop just sailing and start enjoying. And you're right, when you're ready to start enjoying, you might try a cat. I use my boat. If you say so! A lot more than you use yours! You go out for an hour or so, bounce off a log or rock Yup, we were bouncing on that Santana all day. When we rafted up in Little Neck bay we sure had an awful time! Little Neck is so close to your slip that you didn't have to unplug shore power!!! and then spend the next week on the hard! Since I've been on the hard I've gone sailing on 5 different boats (not counting the Rhodes). How many boats did you sail this month...or this week??!!!! Sorry booby, while you were doing a few daysails I sailed most of Massachusetts, from Cape Ann to Cutyhunk. I have nothing against the Rhodes, I sail them frequently and have probably logged more hours in them then you've sailed in you entire life. But you're sounding like a parking lot attendant bragging about how many cars he's driven! Sorry booby, a boat doesn't have to heel to be fun. I bet you looked up foil dynamics by now, since you never mentioned it again. Why would I google it? I was studying NACA foils and how they're used in sailboats while you were still in diapers! It IS a real term. Of course. You overheard it at a boat show and now you're showing your ignorance by using it inappropriately. Here's a hint: tipping is not necessary to go fast. It is not even desirable. Much of naval architecture is concerned with minimizing tipping. Try googling it. You've never owned a true performance monohul And yet, my boat is faster than yours on all points of sail! And, I sail it 5 times more than you sail yours! and I doubt you sailed many. You forget all those years in collegiate racing, then club racing and sailing in 470's, 505's, Solings, Etchells, Tempests, IODs, Larks, Finns, Lightnings, Snipes ... I've even had rides in several 12-meters, one of them before its successful defense. And remember, I actually raced these boats, sometimes bringing home some silver. You just hop on board for a ride, then you run home and brag about it as thought its a great triumph! If you think 12 knots downwind is fun on your cat, If you knew anything about boats you would know that my boat, and most others, do not achieve particularly high speeds going downwind. My top speeds are on a beam reach. The polars show 11 knots in 18 true at 90 degrees, though frankly that's a bit optimistic for plain sail. you should try 10 knots on my 35s5 or So should you! You've posted tons of pics and videos, but none of them show you doing over 6 knots, and most don't even show both sails! Bragging about what other people have done in boats similar to yours is the true mark of a loser! even the thrill of yesterday's Santana run at near 8. But if you really want to just go 12 knots and "get there" I suggest going Doug's route! If I wanted that, I could trade mine for the power version to does 20 knots! Maybe someday. I think doing 12 knots is a lot of fun. Dull dull dull. Like doing 12 knots on a trawler. She was DESIGNED to do it and do it with little fuss. So now your complaint is that me boat was designed to go fast! You really are a jackass, aren't you? It's no more fun than doing 4 nots in a Cape Dory Typhoon. Pushing the limits of a J24 is way more fun and clearly what most true sailors prefer. Again, you should try it sometime. Taking a boat our for an hour is not "pushing the limits." Sailing with no specific goal, just looking for a puff to get a little rush, is not "pushing the limits." Pushing the limits is when you're in a race and performing at less than 95% is essentially a DNF. I think spending the whole summer, or even a whole year on board is fun. We sure don't. I also have a love for the woods, film and astronomy and even driving. Can't say I'd want to be cooped up on a floating radiator all summer. Ah! So now the problem is that you simply don't like to spend extended time on boats! That much is pretty obvious! And your boat would not feel like a radiator if it actually had ventilation. If it had some real hatches it would be horrific! If you think spending your whole sailing life within sight of your slip is fun, that's your prerogative. My whole life, Jeff? You keep talking as though you're my equal, Jeff. Good God, I should hope not! But don't worry, you can get help. There is therapy available that will help you function in the real world. You're not. You're old and you're body is tired. I'm 44, twice as strong as any two people posting here. And yet, you've told us that you can't go out for more than a few days because of a chronic illness. You're the one who seems debilitated. My years ahead are probably not fewer than those behind. I have a lifetime of sailing to come and I'll want to drop dead indeed if I end up doing as little as you. Sorry to hear that. Since I started as a young child, I already have more sailing in than you'll see in your lifetime! Have you done an Atlantic crossing? Sailed the Greek islands? We have a lot of plans Yes, we keep hearing about your plans. You always have plans, but your achievements add up to less sailing than most of us do in a month! and maybe we'll get to most of them. I guess you'll just sit around and hope we don't that's sad. Just sit around??? We just got back from three weeks cruising, and Thursday we're leaving for four weeks in Maine. And you're just jacking off in LIS! The rest of the sailing world races and cruises. Really? I thought most people just enjoy their boats? What kind of person is worried so much about how far someone sails with their 35 footer, Jeff? I really don't care how you use your boat. You're the one who keeps claiming that only you can have fun because your boat tips more and any other! Our longest sail to Port Jeff this summer was the least fun we had due to some light air. What, you don't enjoy pushing the limits of your boat in light air? Surely this means you don't like sailing! Actually, one of the best sails I've had in the last few years was a light air sail of about 25 miles where it turned into a race with several larger boats. Maybe the ride to Mystic will be more fun since we're taking 4 boats, most people can fit in one. but a lot of people love to just SAIL, Jeff. Part of that is owning a boat that's actually fun to sail. If you "need" to get somewhere or round a bouy 1st I think you missed the whole joy of sailing...and now it's too late for you. If you even rounded a mark last it would mean that you're trying. If you don't race, you can't talk about "pushing a boat to its limits." Bragging about how fast your boat is when you don't race is the mark of a loser! That's hilarious. Who knew you need to race to appreciate the performance of a boat. Now I'm 100% sure you really don't like to sail, Jeff. You're a powerboater at best who's caved into the pressure of a sailing community which is snobbish about powerboats. You just keep digging the hole deeper. You keep posting pics of sailing boats at 60% of their potential and bragging about how fast you're going! If you raced you might learn how to get up to 95%, and you'd certainly learn the meaning of terms like "pinching" and "foil dynamics" and how to use them without embarrassing yourself. Bragging about how comfortable your boat is when you don't cruise is the mark of a loser! Oh no! Now this poor toadie says I need to be comfortable for LONG trips. How dare we be comfortable for only a weekend! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You're the one who claims that without A/C it would be horrific! Poor booby. His jealously weeps from every post he makes. I'm off to the Rhodes 19, Jeff. It's not comfortable and not too fast, but it sure is fun! You'll have all day...a beautiful sailing day....to respond while we sail. Ah! A Rhodes! One of my favorites. I like to take my daughter out in them so she learns about tillers! I've been sailing them since 1963 - my first cruise of Maine was in a Mariner (the cuddy version) out of Booth Bay in 1964. |
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I didn't know CW had an editorial postion on cats. Normally they
just have articles, like the one in this month's issue describing how much fun it was. You just said they didn't have an editorial position, then claimed they did. Tell us when you stop just sailing That may be one of the saddest comments made by anyone here. I know you're old, but it's pretty sad when a fellow like you feels that "just sailing" for the sake of sailing isn't fun. Sorry, I don't know any one who sails that agrees. A lot more than you use yours! Even if we used Heart of Gold half as much we'd still be spending more time aboard than you. Little Neck is so close to your slip that you didn't have to unplug shore power!!! We didn't sail from my slip or even City Island. I don't own a Santana 30/30. I own a 35s5. Are you old AND confused? Why would I google it? I was studying NACA foils and how they're used in sailboats while you were still in diapers! And yet you claimed the term didn't exist! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! It IS a real term. Of course. You are soooooo BUSTED!!! BWAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! Here's a hint: tipping is not necessary to go fast. It is not even desirable. Much of naval architecture is concerned with minimizing tipping. Really? Is water also wet? Tell us more! You're starting to sound like Doug, the King of Keels! And yet, my boat is faster than yours on all points of sail! It's not a monohull and has nothing to do with folks who like to sail them any more than a tri-foiler does. Cats are ugly and dull and a LOT of people feel that way and spend big gobbs of money on lovely boats like Swans, Baltics and Alerions...and even a lowly 35s5! And, I sail it 5 times more than you sail yours! Is that in Mayfly hours? You forget all those years in collegiate racing, then At your age you'll also be forgetting them quite soon! You just hop on board for a ride, then you run home and brag about it as thought its a great triumph! Just here, Jeff, just here! So should you! You've posted tons of pics and videos, but none of them show you doing over 6 knots, and most don't even show both sails! LOL! The 35s5 rarely does less than 6 knots. Bragging about what other people have done in boats similar to yours is the true mark of a loser! Who's bragging? Pointing out that you and the rest of the full time ASAers here don't sail is not bragging. If I wanted that, I could trade mine for the power version to does 20 knots! Maybe someday. Wow. Now there's a dream. So now your complaint is that me boat was designed to go fast! Yup, because you keep bragging again and again that she does 12 knots. Who cares. She sits flat on the water and does 12 knots with zero fun factor. Again, you should try it sometime. Taking a boat our for an hour is not "pushing the limits." BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I wonder if you can say one more dumb thing in a single post and BAM, you outdo yourself! Last month I was out in a J24 for about an hour. Winds came up to 40+ knots. Still, I guess we were waiting for the 61 minute mark to know we were over-driving the boat! Sailing with no specific goal, just looking for a puff to get a little rush, is not "pushing the limits." Bwahahahahhahahaha! I love Jeff's silly generalizing! Pushing the limits is when you're in a race and performing at less than 95% is essentially a DNF. Dang, is that in a book somewhere? We thought that pushing the limits meant sailing a boat beyond her conventional design parameters, but I'm sure glad you set us all straight! Ah! So now the problem is that you simply don't like to spend extended time on boats! That much is pretty obvious! Good lord! You JUST realized this? I don't like spending extended time on boats. I have other interests that I'm also pasionate about. Even aboard my friend's Tayana 48DS (A boat 5 times more comfortable than yours), 4 days aboard was plenty. And your boat would not feel like a radiator if it actually had ventilation. Hmmmm. I wonder what monohull that Jeff "respects" has as better ventilation than the 35s5? In stock trim she has 11 ports and hatches, plus we have 3 powered vents. Of course you can add vents, but we've never had a problem, except maybe on ultra hot days in a slip where we simply flip on the AC. Good God, I should hope not! Your wish is granted. Even at 44 I've got more going on than you ever will and having a blast. I know you'll now make all sort of claims about slain dragons...hey, go right ahead. And yet, you've told us that you can't go out for more than a few days because of a chronic illness. Hmmmm. I'd like to read that post. I have an illness, but it doesn't effect sailing in any way. Even when I was sick, I still could run, lift and do everything else. You're the one who seems debilitated. Yep....just got back from trail riding and going swimming in the pond with Thomas in a while. I'm crippled! Yes, we keep hearing about your plans. You always have plans, but your achievements add up to less sailing than most of us do in a month! Bwaahahahhaaha! Yeah? Who is doing all that sailing while posting here every day! I claim to daysail and do weekend trips. I post pics and video. There's no doubt. The rest of you are here ALL OF THE TIME!!! Who are you trying to kid? I'm in touch via direct e-mail with several people here and they don't believe you sail anywhere either! Thursday we're leaving for four weeks in Maine. And you're just jacking off in LIS! Yup. We like sailing. We're not interested in cruising. Learn to live with that and you may add a few years to your short-fused life. I really don't care how you use your boat. So why respond to every troll like a pavlovian dog. Jeff, surely you're old and wise enough to catch on to what I do here and that I do it for entertainment. As long as you're also having fun, then I'll except the silly claim that you "don't care how I use my boat." Actually, I think you care a great deal. You're the one who keeps claiming that only you can have fun because your boat tips more and any other! It's called heeling, Jeff. And it's a big part of the dynamic of sailing for most sailors. Acting as though heeling is not a major fun factor in sailing is like saying the wind in your hair is not part of the allure of driving a ragtop. Snap out of it, dude. What, you don't enjoy pushing the limits of your boat in light air? Depends on how light and how hot. Dead calm conditions where no one can sail on a 100 degree day is not fun for a sailboat underway. But please tell us how you've sailed and had fun sailing your boat on those days! If you even rounded a mark last it would mean that you're trying. If you don't race, you can't talk about "pushing a boat to its limits." I have raced on a J30 and J24's. It was fun for a while. It's not part of why I want to sailing. You will never understand, probably because you're not a sailor at heart. You carry around a phoney bravado because you've taken a boat this way and that, adding up the miles as though they are "better" than those who love sailing on Sunday afternoons, on lakes and so on. You missed it, Jeff. You just keep digging the hole deeper. Yeah, you've been saying that for years, yet here you are in the hole. You keep posting pics of sailing boats at 60% of their potential and bragging about how fast you're going! When we drive a boat hard I'm usually not inclined to mess with my camera. If you raced you might learn how to get up to 95%, and you'd certainly learn the meaning of terms like "pinching" and "foil dynamics" and how to use them without embarrassing yourself. Golly, the only one who got embarassed here was you, busted about 5 times in a single post! You're the one who claims that without A/C it would be horrific! AC at the SLIP. Yup. A nice thing to have. I don't know a single person with AC who wants it off the boat. Ah! A Rhodes! One of my favorites. I like to take my daughter out in them so she learns about tillers! I've been sailing them since 1963 - my first cruise of Maine was in a Mariner (the cuddy version) out of Booth Bay in 1964. My feet got wet. I know you love me, Jeff. Keep up the energy! RB 35s5 NY |
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* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/24/2007 2:12 PM:
I didn't know CW had an editorial postion on cats. Normally they just have articles, like the one in this month's issue describing how much fun it was. You just said they didn't have an editorial position, then claimed they did. I guess this is another area where you're ignorant. The editorial position of a magazine can be different from views expressed in various articles and reviews. Of course, a mag like CW won't say much bad about any boat! Tell us when you stop just sailing That may be one of the saddest comments made by anyone here. I know you're old, but it's pretty sad when a fellow like you feels that "just sailing" for the sake of sailing isn't fun. Sorry, I don't know any one who sails that agrees. Huh??? You're the one who implied you sail to use various boats, not to enjoy them. I just agreed with you the when you're ready to start enjoying, you might try a cat. Perhaps you should reread what you wrote. A lot more than you use yours! Even if we used Heart of Gold half as much we'd still be spending more time aboard than you. ??? I'll spend about 10 weeks onboard this summer. I've already spent more time on the water this summer than you will, and we're just getting started. Little Neck is so close to your slip that you didn't have to unplug shore power!!! We didn't sail from my slip or even City Island. I don't own a Santana 30/30. I own a 35s5. Are you old AND confused? Why would I know where some random boat is from? Why would I google it? I was studying NACA foils and how they're used in sailboats while you were still in diapers! And yet you claimed the term didn't exist! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! No, I never said that. I said that your comment was meaningless. You clearly didn't understand what it means or how to use the term intelligently. Its pretty clear you still don't. It IS a real term. Of course. You are soooooo BUSTED!!! BWAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! And why is that? Everyone knows you're just bluffing and have no idea what you're talking about! Here's a hint: tipping is not necessary to go fast. It is not even desirable. Much of naval architecture is concerned with minimizing tipping. Really? Is water also wet? Tell us more! You're starting to sound like Doug, the King of Keels! OK, so enlighten us! Tell us what you meant by "foil dynamics" and how it relates to my comment. Its clear that you know less about boats than a sunken log, so here's your chance to show us what you know! You've already been bested by a sunken log once this season, why don't you go for 2 out of 3? And yet, my boat is faster than yours on all points of sail! It's not a monohull and has nothing to do with folks who like to sail them any more than a tri-foiler does. Cats are ugly and dull and a LOT of people feel that way and spend big gobbs of money on lovely boats like Swans, Baltics and Alerions...and even a lowly 35s5! OK, so you prefer a slow boat. That sounds pretty dull to me. While its true that mono sales are still bigger than multis, the multi market is growing a *lot* faster. When I first started cruising the cat in the Northeast, we were often the first cat people had ever seen. Now its rare to find even in a small harbor without one or more. And, I sail it 5 times more than you sail yours! Is that in Mayfly hours? You're the one who keep bragging about "3 times a week" and how you're back home every night. The way you post that "3 times" seems like maybe 6 hours. When we go out on Thursday we'll do 5 hours to Cape Ann, then about 8 hours to Cape Elizabeth, maybe 6 hours to Booth Bay, and so on. By the time we're in Bar Harbor we'll have more sailing in then you'll do in the summer. You forget all those years in collegiate racing, then At your age you'll also be forgetting them quite soon! I'll already done more sailing than you'll ever do. And frankly, given your history, I probably have more good years ahead of me than you do! .... So should you! You've posted tons of pics and videos, but none of them show you doing over 6 knots, and most don't even show both sails! LOL! The 35s5 rarely does less than 6 knots. Then the limits you're pushing are the lower limits! Bragging about what other people have done in boats similar to yours is the true mark of a loser! Who's bragging? Pointing out that you and the rest of the full time ASAers here don't sail is not bragging. No, its lying. .... So now your complaint is that me boat was designed to go fast! Yup, because you keep bragging again and again that she does 12 knots. Who cares. She sits flat on the water and does 12 knots with zero fun factor. It too bad you don't know how to sail one. You just keep admitting you ignorance on this topic. Again, you should try it sometime. Taking a boat our for an hour is not "pushing the limits." BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I wonder if you can say one more dumb thing in a single post and BAM, you outdo yourself! Last month I was out in a J24 for about an hour. Winds came up to 40+ knots. Still, I guess we were waiting for the 61 minute mark to know we were over-driving the boat! And then you woke up and the bed was wet!!! Sailing with no specific goal, just looking for a puff to get a little rush, is not "pushing the limits." Bwahahahahhahahaha! I love Jeff's silly generalizing! But you know I'm right, and so does everyone else! Pushing the limits is when you're in a race and performing at less than 95% is essentially a DNF. Dang, is that in a book somewhere? We thought that pushing the limits meant sailing a boat beyond her conventional design parameters, but I'm sure glad you set us all straight! That's real funny! You have never sailed a boat "beyond her conventional design parameters" and everyone here knows it! You haven't even been close! Ah! So now the problem is that you simply don't like to spend extended time on boats! That much is pretty obvious! Good lord! You JUST realized this? I don't like spending extended time on boats. Now that's a start. And by "extended" we mean more than about 2 hours. I have other interests that I'm also pasionate about. Even aboard my friend's Tayana 48DS (A boat 5 times more comfortable than yours), 4 days aboard was plenty. BWAHAHAHAAHA! And you claimed you were going to do a trans-Atlantic!!! You're the first person I've known who claimed to be a sailor, but thought 4 days on a luxury boat was enough! I'm guessing your "friend" thought 4 days with you was also "enough"! And your boat would not feel like a radiator if it actually had ventilation. Hmmmm. I wonder what monohull that Jeff "respects" has as better ventilation than the 35s5? In stock trim she has 11 ports and hatches, plus we have 3 powered vents. Of course you can add vents, but we've never had a problem, except maybe on ultra hot days in a slip where we simply flip on the AC. Actually, the Multi/Mono comparison in this months Cruising World (which you seem to take as gospel) pointed out that the cabins on the big Beneteau were stuffy, but the cat was airy. And those little side hatches don't really ventilate the boat, and counting the little hatch inside the cockpit is truly lame! To ventilate you need forward facing top hatches, which can scoop in any air. I have 6 of those, you have what, two? Good God, I should hope not! Your wish is granted. Even at 44 I've got more going on than you ever will and having a blast. I know you'll now make all sort of claims about slain dragons...hey, go right ahead. Nope. No need. Its pretty clear that you're an insecure little child. There is very little in your life for anyone to be envious of. And yet, you've told us that you can't go out for more than a few days because of a chronic illness. Hmmmm. I'd like to read that post. I have an illness, but it doesn't effect sailing in any way. Even when I was sick, I still could run, lift and do everything else. You posted here that was the reason you couldn't go out for more than a few days. You're the one who seems debilitated. Yep....just got back from trail riding and going swimming in the pond with Thomas in a while. I'm crippled! Enjoy it while you can. Yes, we keep hearing about your plans. You always have plans, but your achievements add up to less sailing than most of us do in a month! Bwaahahahhaaha! Yeah? Who is doing all that sailing while posting here every day! During the 19 days we were gone I posted 11 short posts, in 5 sessions, using my Blackberry as a modem. During the same period, you posted around 150 times. I claim to daysail and do weekend trips. I post pics and video. There's no doubt. The rest of you are here ALL OF THE TIME!!! Who are you trying to kid? I'm in touch via direct e-mail with several people here and they don't believe you sail anywhere either! I really don't care much what Ed Gordon thinks. Your pics could be anywhere, anytime. I've posted pics of my boat everywhere from Toronto to Maine to Key West. I've even posted aerial shots of my boat in Vineyard Haven. Thursday we're leaving for four weeks in Maine. And you're just jacking off in LIS! Yup. We like sailing. We're not interested in cruising. Learn to live with that and you may add a few years to your short-fused life. I really don't care that you're not interested in cruising; you seem obsessed with the fact that other people have fun even though they don't have your "life." I really don't care how you use your boat. So why respond to every troll like a pavlovian dog. Me? You respond to every one of mine!!! I've had you hooked for the last month! You're the one who keeps claiming that only you can have fun because your boat tips more and any other! It's called heeling, Jeff. And it's a big part of the dynamic of sailing for most sailors. Most sailors??? Certainly not! Most sailors understand that it slows them down! It only the novices who haven't learned yet what true performance sailing is about. Like a little child you think its more fun when its tippy! Acting as though heeling is not a major fun factor in sailing is like saying the wind in your hair is not part of the allure of driving a ragtop. Snap out of it, dude. Most sailors think Fun is getting the most of of the boat, not sailing poorly. You're the only person who brags about how much fun they have sailing poorly. What, you don't enjoy pushing the limits of your boat in light air? Depends on how light and how hot. Dead calm conditions where no one can sail on a 100 degree day is not fun for a sailboat underway. But please tell us how you've sailed and had fun sailing your boat on those days! Dead days are fun also! We just fire up the engines and power off at 9 knots! Actually, I enjoy racing in very light air days. It takes a lot of skill and patience, but it can be extremely rewarding. You see, I enjoy all aspects of sailing, not just certain boats in certain winds, within 3 miles of my slip. If you even rounded a mark last it would mean that you're trying. If you don't race, you can't talk about "pushing a boat to its limits." I have raced on a J30 and J24's. It was fun for a while. It's not part of why I want to sailing. In other words, you sucked at it and never want to do it again. You will never understand, probably because you're not a sailor at heart. Hey, you're the one who just spent the whole post explaining all the different ways you don't like to sail! It has to be a "performance" monohull. It has to be tippy to be fun. The wind can't be too light. It can't be too strong. Its no fun if the boat was actually designed to go fast. You can't cruise because you get bored after a few days. You can't race. You have lots of "plans" that never seem to happen. Its pretty clear that your only reason to go out at all is to take a picture and then run back in and post it! You carry around a phoney bravado because you've taken a boat this way and that, adding up the miles as though they are "better" than those who love sailing on Sunday afternoons, on lakes and so on. Nope, I never said any of that; you just have to lie like to claim a "victory." The truth is I have no problem with your daysailing; as I've said I've done it many times. You're the one who keeps claiming that no one else can have any fun because they don't do things your way. In fact, every month or so you have to post a list of why everyone else can't be having any fun! You are the most insecure person I've ever known. If you raced you might learn how to get up to 95%, and you'd certainly learn the meaning of terms like "pinching" and "foil dynamics" and how to use them without embarrassing yourself. Golly, the only one who got embarassed here was you, busted about 5 times in a single post! You completely soiled your pants with that exchange! You proved you don't even know the meaning of "going upwind." You even claimed that most sailors don't care about sailing upwind, they only care how well a boat pinches. Not surprising that you still don't understand. Just today you were claiming that boats sail fastest downwind. Someday you should try a beam reach! |
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